How much of the hate is due to the fact that its Miami

LovetheNBA1 · Post #1 » by **LovetheNBA1** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 5:45 am

I go to school in Miami now. I really think people hate the fact that Lebron, Bosh and Wade are playing in a city that is famous for sexy women, beaches and nightlife. Its almost like its 3 black kids living it up, and people resent that they are driving in traffic in DC and NY, Cleveland, and such while these guys are just on a free ride.

Its my only guess for the hate. I do not buy the decesion, or the super team. Kobe and Shaq were a super team being the two best players in the game. No one hated them. The most dominant closer, and dominant player in Shaq on one team? I never heard once people resent it.

I really do not get this. Now i hear the lockout has a lot to do with how the Heat came together.

Its odd to me.

HOPPZ · Post #2 » by **HOPPZ** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 6:23 am

LovetheNBA1 wrote:I go to school in Miami now. I really think people hate the fact that Lebron, Bosh and Wade are playing in a city that is famous for sexy women, beaches and nightlife. Its almost like its 3 black kids living it up, and people resent that they are driving in traffic in DC and NY, Cleveland, and such while these guys are just on a free ride.

Its my only guess for the hate. I do not buy the decesion, or the super team. Kobe and Shaq were a super team being the two best players in the game. No one hated them. The most dominant closer, and dominant player in Shaq on one team? I never heard once people resent it.

I really do not get this. Now i hear the lockout has a lot to do with how the Heat came together.

Its odd to me.

1. thats just racist

2. plenty of people hated kobe/shaq and lesser known duo of jordan/pippen

3. the way the big 3 came together was possible because of the way the league is structured. By no means is it miami's "fault"

4. you have so much to learn

Akshan · Post #3 » by **Akshan** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 9:12 am

SMH TIMES A MAX people hate Miami due to LeBron James and they just want to see LeBron James fail if Miami had exited free agency with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh no one would hate us

garbagnani · Post #4 » by **garbagnani** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 5:35 pm

i love Miami. I can't blame any player for wanting to play there, especially considering the NBA season is during the winter season.

I think Heat hate is is due to the way that Lebron and Bosh left their teams. Lebrons decision was ridiuclous, Bosh twitter antics were too. THey both owed their loyal fans better than that.

I also think people resent the fact that Lebron and Bosh led their teams on, made them believe they had a chance to resign them, when in fact they had this planned for a long time. They both should have told their GM's that they were going to leave so that the organizations could have at least got some return for them. They should have shown more loyalty.

The "victory parade celebration" the Heat staged after signing Bosh and lebron was the tipping point. That was over the top, pissed alot of people off. The Heat got the greatest player since Jordan for nothing, first Lebron rubbed it in Clevelands face with the decision, then the heat rubbed it in further with the celebration.

Heat_team02 · Post #5 » by **Heat_team02** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 7:27 pm

It has gone beyond hate. It has become a feud that I liken to the Iron Sheik and the Ultimate Warrior.

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MF Doom · Post #6 » by **MF Doom** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 8:20 pm

HOPPZ wrote:lesser known duo of jordan/pippen

Lesser known?

Akshan · Post #7 » by **Akshan** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 8:27 pm

Miami tried to trade with Toronto for Chris Bosh and were even willing to send over Michael Beasley a couple picks and a few of our players you can't blame Pat Riley for the Raptors having such a bad front office and management.

What LeBron James did was wrong but next year in 2012 when the Cleveland Cavs have another couple lottery picks in a heavy and amazing draft people will forget all about LeBron in Cleveland. Shaq left Orlando for Hollywood nobody cared because back in the day internet and ESPN weren't as big as they are now. If tommr ESPN calls Kevin Durant a bad guy half the world will say Kevin Durant is a bad guy it is just how society operates.

sweet daddy · Post #8 » by **sweet daddy** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 9:15 pm

Nah, the city of Miami doesn't have a bad reputation, and it isn't dislike of the city. I don't know anybody that doesn't love the city of Miami. What's not to love?! It was a lot of things. For Cleveland and Toronto it was their franchise players 'deserting' them (not my words). For others who recruited LBJ and CB, it was jealousy in not getting them. For others it was jealousy over the team Miami had put together. For us Dallas fans, it was all of that plus the bad memory of '06.

But for everybody ... everybody ... outside of Miami, it was 'the decision' and the introduction of the players, and the 5/6/7 championship claims. Man, if you weren't a Miami fan, that was all just too much to take. It just made the NBA feel more like the WWE or something. It felt over the top, and very disrespectful to the rest of the NBA.

Now, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but really just trying to see if I can help Miami fans understand what was so distasteful about it all.

You know, what I'd say to all of you is don't take it personally, and don't feel as though you have to explain it, or justify it, or justify being a Miami fan. It's how people feel about those 3, not how they feel about the city or the fans. Some people are jerks, and will put all of that on your backs. It's typically best not to worry too much about what jerks think. That's why they're jerks.

Post #9 » by **dflash3** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 10:38 pm

Nice to see a brand new and interesting topic as opposed to one that has been beaten to death

Wavy Q · Post #10 » by **Wavy Q** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 10:39 pm

It has nothing to do with location, lol.

tigerbull · Post #11 » by **tigerbull** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 11:43 pm

sweet daddy wrote:Nah, the city of Miami doesn't have a bad reputation, and it isn't dislike of the city. I don't know anybody that doesn't love the city of Miami. What's not to love?! It was a lot of things. For Cleveland and Toronto it was their franchise players 'deserting' them (not my words). For others who recruited LBJ and CB, it was jealousy in not getting them. For others it was jealousy over the team Miami had put together. For us Dallas fans, it was all of that plus the bad memory of '06.

But for everybody ... everybody ... outside of Miami, it was 'the decision' and the introduction of the players, and the 5/6/7 championship claims. Man, if you weren't a Miami fan, that was all just too much to take. It just made the NBA feel more like the WWE or something. It felt over the top, and very disrespectful to the rest of the NBA.

Now, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but really just trying to see if I can help Miami fans understand what was so distasteful about it all.

You know, what I'd say to all of you is don't take it personally, and don't feel as though you have to explain it, or justify it, or justify being a Miami fan. It's how people feel about those 3, not how they feel about the city or the fans. Some people are jerks, and will put all of that on your backs. It's typically best not to worry too much about what jerks think. That's why they're jerks.

bingo

Dezmondballins3 · Post #12 » by **Dezmondballins3** » Fri Jul 1, 2011 11:48 pm

when people say things like " no one hated Kobe and Shaq" they mean not as many people because its obvious some people did hate them I.E every body in San Antonio and Sacramento please you don't have to point it out that people did hate them just understand......

Post #13 » by **DefenseWins** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 12:15 am

Anyone who hates Miami hasn't freakin' been here, especially the night life.

I don't understand the hate for Miami fans though. I understand with the whole "not 1, not 2" and whatever, but then people and even Barkley attacking the fans and saying they are the worst and that the city of Miami doesn't deserve a team like this. That sickens me. Why not? Miami isn't like Chicago or Boston when it comes to sports, because it's a very young sports city. Though everyone is a Dolphin fan. You can thank the 70's Dolphins for that. It takes awhile for cities to be faithful and born into loving their city team. It took multiple championships for a city to get a stable fanbase. Yes we aren't the loudest, but again it takes freakin' decades (OKC ... well that's another story, since their arena and fanbase seens loud and stable already lol, not much to do in OKC I guess).

Also... well this city does have a lot of immigrants who don't give a crap about the sports. But in the upcoming years, the fanbase will grow. Even after Shaq and 2006 it didn't grow enough. It's going to take consistent years.

It's the same deal with the Marlins lol. They have 2 world series under their belt but they are not consistent at all. They are always the wild card and the organization is terrible. The fan favorites and best players always gets traded, WTF is up with that?

Anyway... ultimately no I don't think it's because of the actual city of Miami. Only people who take it too far or seriously attack the city. Again, if you haven't been to Miami (ESPECIALLY downtown Miami, Biscayne, South Beach strip.. I think that's the name) then you shouldn't trash the city. It may have it's Cuban drug lords in the 80s and immigrants but that's how it has gotten it's Latin flavor lol.

I hope next season this Heat team is quiet. Just get business done, stop talking. It was very annoying and even mentally tiring for me. It's hard to defend them when they keep making fools out of themselves. ;\

Uptown Report · Post #14 » by **Uptown Report** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 12:37 am

sweet daddy wrote:Nah, the city of Miami doesn't have a bad reputation, and it isn't dislike of the city. I don't know anybody that doesn't love the city of Miami. What's not to love?! It was a lot of things. For Cleveland and Toronto it was their franchise players 'deserting' them (not my words). For others who recruited LBJ and CB, it was jealousy in not getting them. For others it was jealousy over the team Miami had put together. For us Dallas fans, it was all of that plus the bad memory of '06.

But for everybody ... everybody ... outside of Miami, it was 'the decision' and the introduction of the players, and the 5/6/7 championship claims. Man, if you weren't a Miami fan, that was all just too much to take. It just made the NBA feel more like the WWE or something. It felt over the top, and very disrespectful to the rest of the NBA.

Now, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but really just trying to see if I can help Miami fans understand what was so distasteful about it all.

You know, what I'd say to all of you is don't take it personally, and don't feel as though you have to explain it, or justify it, or justify being a Miami fan. It's how people feel about those 3, not how they feel about the city or the fans. Some people are jerks, and will put all of that on your backs. It's typically best not to worry too much about what jerks think. That's why they're jerks.

That Pep Rally was not for you. it was for Heat fans. It was only broadcast locally and on tape delay at that. it was streamed through the internet. ESPN took it upon themselves to broadcast it.

What is said at a Pep Rally shouldn't bother anybody unless they are looking to be bothered.

and in the end...the pep rally was rather prescient. First year= Finals.

Uptown Report · Post #15 » by **Uptown Report** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 12:39 am

DefenseWins wrote:I hope next season this Heat team is quiet. Just get business done, stop talking. It was very annoying and even mentally tiring for me. It's hard to defend them when they keep making fools out of themselves. ;\

WTF are you talking about?

this team didn't say a peep all year and bent over backwards to kiss the ass of those old farts in Boston which they smashed and the overrated Bulls which they dismissed.

This team showed remarkable restraint for all the **** they had to take from the legions of haters.

Post #16 » by **BFRESH44** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 12:55 am

PLENTY.

And for outside yokels on here who try to convince you otherwise? They're kidding themselves.

The sports culture in South Florida without a doubt rubs people the wrong way. The general feel and perception outside of Miami as a sports town is a cheesy, fairweather, transient city. With little to no diehards. And obviously, alot is done to help fuel that perception lol.

And our biggest voice in terms of a sports media representative? Dan LeBatard? Does nothing but help fuel that perception as well.

If this very team happened in Chicago or New York? With everything going down exactly as it did? You can't tell me the hate would've been CLOSE to being as as thick. Because it would've happend in dream media markets that would cater to ESPN. With loud & creative writers backing them every step of the way.

DirkIsNBA · Post #17 » by **DirkIsNBA** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 3:12 am

I don't hate the city of Miami. I cheered for the Marlins to beat the Yankees in the World Series, think the Dolphins have the best uniforms in the league, and enjoyed the Hurricanes' dominance of college football and their renegade attitude. I just didn't like the way whole thing went down; it smells of collusion -- whether that's actually the case or not. And the way the organization celebrated signing them left a a bad taste in everyone's mouth outside of South Beach. But I kind of know where Heat fans are coming from, as I have never totally wanted to grasp why so many people hate my Cowboys.

Post #18 » by **DefenseWins** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 3:15 am

Uptown Report wrote:WTF are you talking about?

this team didn't say a peep all year and bent over backwards to kiss the ass of those old farts in Boston which they smashed and the overrated Bulls which they dismissed.

This team showed remarkable restraint for all the **** they had to take from the legions of haters.

I kind of gave up when they mocked Dirk. It's hard when trying to defend your best favorite and say... oh well.. he was mocking the media. They fed the media all year long. The media may have blown it into proportions. But what was up with having press conferences after regular season games? I'm sure if they didn't have the welcome party and didn't have press conferences, the hate wouldn't have been so large. Also LeBron kept saying sorry to Cleveland, then the media is like OH MY DID HE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TO GOING TO SOUTH BEACH?! Then he'd knock off his old teammates and say they weren't up for the challenge in the final moments and was glad to have players that were willing to be in those moments (clutch) with him. Then he doesn't do squat in the Finals in the clutch lol.

Well, I guess actions speak louder than words. I guess LeBron chest pounding Wade will be remembered forever in game 2 huh?

they weren't very humble at times. they thought they were going to steam roll in the Finals. Even though they won Game 3, after game 2 they were never the same. They kept talking to the media, feeding them. Even when Wade said "well america is happy now, the heat are losing". I personally was annoyed. They shouldn't have been answering to anyone. Just play basketball and then party on after winning it ALL.

LBJ and Wade gave good answers though, but during the regular season, somethings could have been avoided... heck even before the season.

HOPPZ · Post #19 » by **HOPPZ** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 3:19 am

MF Doom wrote:
HOPPZ wrote:lesser known duo of jordan/pippen

Lesser known?

was a joke.....not sure if the OP understood that the big 3 arent the first superstars to ever be hated in the history of the nba.

LikeABosh · Post #20 » by **LikeABosh** » Sat Jul 2, 2011 6:48 am

DefenseWins wrote:
Uptown Report wrote:WTF are you talking about?

this team didn't say a peep all year and bent over backwards to kiss the ass of those old farts in Boston which they smashed and the overrated Bulls which they dismissed.

This team showed remarkable restraint for all the **** they had to take from the legions of haters.

I kind of gave up when they mocked Dirk. It's hard when trying to defend your best favorite and say... oh well.. he was mocking the media. They fed the media all year long. The media may have blown it into proportions. But what was up with having press conferences after regular season games? I'm sure if they didn't have the welcome party and didn't have press conferences, the hate wouldn't have been so large. Also LeBron kept saying sorry to Cleveland, then the media is like OH MY DID HE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION TO GOING TO SOUTH BEACH?! Then he'd knock off his old teammates and say they weren't up for the challenge in the final moments and was glad to have players that were willing to be in those moments (clutch) with him. Then he doesn't do squat in the Finals in the clutch lol.

Well, I guess actions speak louder than words. I guess LeBron chest pounding Wade will be remembered forever in game 2 huh?

they weren't very humble at times. they thought they were going to steam roll in the Finals. Even though they won Game 3, after game 2 they were never the same. They kept talking to the media, feeding them. Even when Wade said "well america is happy now, the heat are losing". I personally was annoyed. They shouldn't have been answering to anyone. Just play basketball and then party on after winning it ALL.

LBJ and Wade gave good answers though, but during the regular season, somethings could have been avoided... heck even before the season.

I didn't like them making fun of Dirk. It was just bad taste. It wasn't even after a game they won, it was the game they lost. It angers me how silly Wade and James can be.

I like what Doc Rivers said concerning Lebron James and the media. He said something like "He responded to their taunts when he should've said, 'Go screw yourself'". James and Wade need to just shut their mouths until they win.