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Writeup on NBA's Hollywood Accounting Methods 

Post#1 » by moofs » Tue Jul 5, 2011 2:08 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-wp5834

Let's start with looking at a listed $25 million "Loss on player's contracts," in the Nets paperwork, which is actually nothing of the sort. Here's Craggs:
The first thing to do is toss out that $25 million loss, says Rodney Fort, a sports economist at the University of Michigan. That's not a real loss. That's house money. The Nets didn't have to write any checks for $25 million. What that $25 million represents is the amount by which Nets owners reduced their tax obligation under something called a roster depreciation allowance, or RDA.
Bear with me now. The RDA dates back to 1959, and was maybe Bill Veeck's biggest hustle in a long lifetime of hustles. Veeck argued to the IRS that professional athletes, once they've been paid for, "waste away" like livestock. Therefore a sports team's roster, like a farmer's cattle or an office copy machine or a new Volvo, is a depreciable asset.
The underlying logic is specious at best. As Fort points out, a team's roster at any given moment isn't actually depreciating. While some players are fading with age, others are developing and improving. But the Nets don't have to pay more taxes when a player becomes more valuable. And in any case, the cost of depreciation is borne by the athletes themselves, when they pass their primes and lose their personal earning power.


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http://deadspin.com/5816870/
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Post#2 » by Mr. E » Tue Jul 5, 2011 2:41 pm

And people say that there is no creativity in Accounting! :lol:

Thanks for the link, moofs!
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Post#3 » by moofs » Tue Jul 5, 2011 4:16 pm

Man... there are so many schticks out there, it's not even funny. BlogHouston has a bunch of them from just our neck of the woods.

Another example? Estate tax.
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Post#4 » by TMU » Tue Jul 5, 2011 6:33 pm

Mr. E wrote:And people say that there is no creativity in Accounting! :lol:

Thanks for the link, moofs!


Seriously. :lol:

Perhaps one of the best sports articles I have read.
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Post#5 » by tisbee » Wed Jul 6, 2011 4:34 am

While I have no doubt that there are teams losing money and more just clinging to profitability,I seriously question the Owners crying over massive losses.(And those 22 teams losing money,3 are Portland,Dallas and Orlando.Until a few yrs ago Orlando was on a strict budget and was profitable,Portland had slashed their salaries a couple seasons ago and edged into the black,then Allen started spending again and Cuban just likes to spend money :) .)
But how can I take the owners wails of poverty seriously when THEY DON'T ACT LIKE THEY'RE LOSING MASSIVE SUMS!

To begin the owners are claiming a billion dollars in losses in past 5-6 yrs,and the guy that negotiated the deal that put them there,they haven't fired but instead are having him negotiate this deal. If I'm losing $10-20mil a yr because of the bad deal Stern negotiated last time,I'm sure as h*** not letting him near the negotiating table this time.

Then there's the little issue of,if losses are so bad,why the h*** haven't teams slashed player payroll?
Over past 4 seasons,w/claimed losses of over $900mil exactly 1-ONE!-team has reduced it's player payroll under $50mil. This past season 15 teams had payrolls of between $64 and $70mil w/just 8(2 of whom made Play-Offs) under $60mil,and just one under $50mil. It's as if the owners were complete idiots when it comes to their NBA businesses while being very successful elsewhere. Un-huh.
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Post#6 » by moofs » Wed Jul 6, 2011 3:46 pm

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Post#8 » by moofs » Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:14 am

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/06/25/ ... a-and-nfl/

“In both cases the owners are basically saying: ‘We would like you to give us more money.’ And the players in both situations are going ‘why.’ And the owners’ argument amounts to: ‘We would like to have more money.’

They keep claiming they’re losing money, but if you go through the history of labor negotiations in sports, you can find owners in sports saying they’re losing money all the way back to 1879. They’ve been saying this for 130 years.
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Post#9 » by moofs » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:50 pm

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/674 ... -nba-world

His numbers don't always add up, and it looks like a few things might cause some incentives problems, but nice ideas nonetheless.
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