Welcome to the Knicks Iman Shumpert

[TrueWarrior]

Singleton only averaged 1 more rebound than Shumpert, is only 8 pounds heavier, and his standing reach is just 8'7.5''. Dudes no big man. Hes a tweener at the last 2 positions we need a tweener at. He couldnt even get all of the backup SF and PF minutes, because that would mean Melo and Amare would have to sit at much different times, which obviously takes away from them playing together.

*An Im Bored Example*
Singleton would have to come in for Amare with around 6 minutes left in the 1st, then slide over for Melo when the quarter ends and Amare comes back, then come out for Melo with like 6 minutes left in the 2nd. Thats only about 24 mpg for Singleton tops, which is a best case scenario since I dont think Dantoni wants to sit Amare and Melo separately as much, or have Amare play center/Singleton play SG for long stretches. Its just a big f*ckin hassle for a player who isnt that f*ckin good. So Shumpert it is. I dont see how the two are much different anyway besides 1 fitting us much better.

I like how Singleton is dubbed "The LeBron Stopper" already too as if thats why we should have picked him. Okay well then who does Melo guard? Wade? Ha. Neh. Melo does a good job matched on LeBron. We got Shumpert to guard Wade. Derr.

The best is what Doodlez said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6701656

You can tell Cheeselips hasnt watched anybody in the draft play.

Oh and f*ck this lockout. Damnit.

[NYman15]

Singleton only averaged 1 more rebound than Shumpert, is only 8 pounds heavier, and his standing reach is just 8'7.5''. Dudes no big man. Hes a tweener at the last 2 positions we need a tweener at. He couldnt even get all of the backup SF and PF minutes, because that would mean Melo and Amare would have to sit at much different times, which obviously takes away from them playing together.

*An Im Bored Example*
Singleton would have to come in for Amare with around 6 minutes left in the 1st, then slide over for Melo when the quarter ends and Amare comes back, then come out for Melo with like 6 minutes left in the 2nd. Thats only about 24 mpg for Singleton tops, which is a best case scenario since I dont think Dantoni wants to sit Amare and Melo separately as much, or have Amare play center/Singleton play SG for long stretches. Its just a big f*ckin hassle for a player who isnt that f*ckin good. So Shumpert it is. I dont see how the two are much different anyway besides 1 fitting us much better.

I like how Singleton is dubbed "The LeBron Stopper" already too as if thats why we should have picked him. Okay well then who does Melo guard? Wade? Ha. Neh. Melo does a good job matched on LeBron. We got Shumpert to guard Wade. Derr.

The best is what Doodlez said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6701656

You can tell Cheeselips hasnt watched anybody in the draft play.

Oh and f*ck this lockout. Damnit.

lol. I couldn't agree more. Singleton would be behind Melo and Amare and fighting for minutes with Williams and Fields. Shumpert fits a need and does a lot of what Singleton does. Versatile and defends multiple positions. The plus is Shumpert can play some point and create for others.

[Falstaffxx]

Really it's probably going to come down to who the better player is, not who has the better positional fit. If the Knicks thought Singleton was clearly the better player, I'm sure they would have taken him regardless of being stuck behind Carmelo.

[TrueWarrior]

Really it's probably going to come down to who the better player is, not who has the better positional fit. If the Knicks thought Singleton was clearly the better player, I'm sure they would have taken him regardless of being stuck behind Carmelo.

Well thats obvious. The point we're making is that Singleton isnt on this high horse while Shumpert is cleanin up the horse's sh*t or something. They're like the same player except one is a combo guard and the other is a combo forward. If Singleton was some special player he wouldnt have "dropped" to us in the first place. Hes got just as many questions as Shumpert. Watch his strengths and weaknesses video on DX. Dude cant make a layup. Its funny and sad. Give me the guy who fits.

BTW I made a Shumpert thread on the NBA Draft board stickin up/blowin smoke up our new draft picks azz. Pretty much sums my feelings up on the guy. Like I said now that hes a Knick hes got my full support... until we eventually trade him in 7 months.

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[Falstaffxx]

I never really understood the "WTF" reaction when the Knicks took him. A lot of mock drafts had us taking him, and his name had come up repeatedly during the last couple weeks before the draft. For some reason sports writers have been squawking about Singleton, but before the draft I didn't get the sense that he was a leading candidate. The reaction is just sort of weird, especially the retroactive obsession with Faried/Singleton who not many people were talking about as serious possibilities beforehand. All the talk, in addition to the long-shot hopes for Jimmer/Klay/Kebma, was about Brooks/Vucevic/Motie/Shumpert.

[Capn'O]

The more I hear about this guy the more I like the pick.

- Best athlete in the draft
- Great defender at the 1-3
- Good SPOT UP shooter
- Driving ability with good passing skills
- Good rebounder - can lead the break
- Good kid with decent IQ as a person (different from BBIQ which admittedly is still under question. Will he adjust his playing style when he is not the #1 option?)

Sounds like more or less the player we needed at the 2 and now that I'm thinking of him as a 2 and not a 1 I expect that we got a steal. He needs to keep his conditioning/strength at par and just work on that spot up shooting ability and he'll have a chance at being a top 5 rookie this year. I would kill for a prime Raja Bell type on this team and that is how he projects but with more athleticism than Bell had.

Really hope the lockout doesn't cancel the season.

[truth serum]

I never really understood the "WTF" reaction when the Knicks took him. A lot of mock drafts had us taking him, and his name had come up repeatedly during the last couple weeks before the draft. For some reason sports writers have been squawking about Singleton, but before the draft I didn't get the sense that he was a leading candidate. The reaction is just sort of weird, especially the retroactive obsession with Faried/Singleton who not many people were talking about as serious possibilities beforehand. All the talk, in addition to the long-shot hopes for Jimmer/Klay/Kebma, was about Brooks/Vucevic/Motie/Shumpert.

I agree. And of those 4 players, Shumpert seems like the best pick for the Knicks by far.

[yaboynyp]

I hope this kid is hearing all of the negative comments, and is using that as fuel to improve himself….. Get in the gym, get better, and when it’s time leave it all on the floor.. Let the haters hate

[vinnie_vegas69]

I never really understood the "WTF" reaction when the Knicks took him. A lot of mock drafts had us taking him, and his name had come up repeatedly during the last couple weeks before the draft. For some reason sports writers have been squawking about Singleton, but before the draft I didn't get the sense that he was a leading candidate.

All of this is dead on - I couldn't believe all of the a**holes with their revisionist history saying that he was considered a second rounder by most people

I mean, the two biggest draft sites on the internet had him at #17 and #20 in their final mocks.

[TrueWarrior]

I never really understood the "WTF" reaction when the Knicks took him. A lot of mock drafts had us taking him, and his name had come up repeatedly during the last couple weeks before the draft. For some reason sports writers have been squawking about Singleton, but before the draft I didn't get the sense that he was a leading candidate.

All of this is dead on - I couldn't believe all of the a**holes with their revisionist history saying that he was considered a second rounder by most people

I mean, the two biggest draft sites on the internet had him at #17 and #20 in their final mocks.

Whats funny is the 2 guys we talked about much more, Brooks and Motie, havent gotten much pub at all as far as us passing on them (besides Skio Bayless and Dick Vitale who liked Brooks) but the 2 guys most of us wanted to stay away from, Singleton and Faried, have all the sudden become Artest and Rodman 2.0.

Motie must not have impressed us much in our private workout. He was very interesting to me because of his size, skillset, and athleticism but I guess his D, rebounding, and toughness concerns were very real to us. You usually dont see guys as talented as him drop, especially in a draft like this and since he gained alot of muscle recently. By the time our pick came up though I was hoping we wouldnt take Motie, despite all that. I was just getting some last minute bad vibes/cold feet on him and thought he would crash and burn in NYC. Even if his hair is the same, hes no Gallo mentally.

Brooks could turn into a decent defender if he commits to it and adds weight since his wingspan is nice, but Im still not convinced hes as athletic as he tested out to be and think hes going to have some trouble on the defensive end, a la Jamal Crawford. I dont think hes ever going to be an above average defender, but he can probably be average at some point. We'll see though. Theres no doubting his scoring ability but we most likely didnt believe hed fit in as a 3rd/4th option and be what we needed him to be.

Honestly Im over it. By the time the draft came I expected wed pick Shumpert. Was saying it for a couple weeks. Felt it in mah bones. So I was warming up to the lad little by little. Only time will tell if we made a good choice.

I guess we just really wanted to go defense so that crossed off Motie and Brooks. And we didnt want to pick a forward so that crossed off Singleton and Faried. Pretty simple. The question is if we reached on Shumpert. Lets hope not.

[MaseInYourFace]

Singleton only averaged 1 more rebound than Shumpert, is only 8 pounds heavier, and his standing reach is just 8'7.5''. Dudes no big man. Hes a tweener at the last 2 positions we need a tweener at. He couldnt even get all of the backup SF and PF minutes, because that would mean Melo and Amare would have to sit at much different times, which obviously takes away from them playing together.

*An Im Bored Example*
Singleton would have to come in for Amare with around 6 minutes left in the 1st, then slide over for Melo when the quarter ends and Amare comes back, then come out for Melo with like 6 minutes left in the 2nd. Thats only about 24 mpg for Singleton tops, which is a best case scenario since I dont think Dantoni wants to sit Amare and Melo separately as much, or have Amare play center/Singleton play SG for long stretches. Its just a big f*ckin hassle for a player who isnt that f*ckin good. So Shumpert it is. I dont see how the two are much different anyway besides 1 fitting us much better.

I like how Singleton is dubbed "The LeBron Stopper" already too as if thats why we should have picked him. Okay well then who does Melo guard? Wade? Ha. Neh. Melo does a good job matched on LeBron. We got Shumpert to guard Wade. Derr.

The best is what Doodlez said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/ ... id=6701656

You can tell Cheeselips hasnt watched anybody in the draft play.

Oh and f*ck this lockout. Damnit.

Steven A plays himself these days. He tows the company line. I guess it's part of his new agreement after he came back...

[MaseInYourFace]

lol, Shumpert can guard three positions also. PG, SG, and SF. Which is quite frankly a much bigger need in today's NBA. You need good perimeter defenders. WTF is your point Stephen A?!

[TKF]

I never really understood the "WTF" reaction when the Knicks took him. A lot of mock drafts had us taking him, and his name had come up repeatedly during the last couple weeks before the draft. For some reason sports writers have been squawking about Singleton, but before the draft I didn't get the sense that he was a leading candidate. The reaction is just sort of weird, especially the retroactive obsession with Faried/Singleton who not many people were talking about as serious possibilities beforehand. All the talk, in addition to the long-shot hopes for Jimmer/Klay/Kebma, was about Brooks/Vucevic/Motie/Shumpert.

exactly, I am shocked at at the amount of suprised fans...

[MaseInYourFace]

Let's face it, shi**ing on the Knicks is an easy article or segment on a show. It works, since so many do it you don't look like your kooky, it's guaranteed to get a reaction since the NYC market is so big. This is what today's media do.

[ITGM]

I didn't like this pick on draft day, and I still don't like this pick today; I would have loved Motiejunas or Brooks. That saying that, I hope I'm wrong about him and he turns out to be a great asset for the Knicks.

[Falstaffxx]

I didn't like this pick on draft day, and I still don't like this pick today; I would have loved Motiejunas or Brooks. That saying that, I hope I'm wrong about him and he turns out to be a great asset for the Knicks.

I mainly felt that it was anticlimactic, with no one "falling" to us and ending up picking what a lot of mocks had predicted. I don't have a very strong feeling about the pick one way or another. I guess I feel rather optimistic about it, since he's so athletic and has a reputation for strong defense.

[Knicksfan20]

I_Am_Iman Iman Shumpert
Just finished shootin...arms are did...1000 shots on the shooting gun goes quick...time to hit the mall

This is great news. Made a twitter just to follow him, he is always in the gym and working out. Love his work ethic. And im pretty sure he is acually talking about jump shots and not the firing range. But im not to sure now after re-reading it lol.

[SonOfMars]

Randumb: But, Is Iman the first Knick to ever be born in the 90s?


Anywho, great to know hes working on his shooting, when Toney came into the league was considered an OK shooter, now hes a very good one because he worked on it
Now only if either one was great at running the point...

[Falstaffxx]

Randumb: But, Is Iman the first Knick to ever be born in the 90s?


Anywho, great to know hes working on his shooting, when Toney came into the league was considered an OK shooter, now hes a very good one because he worked on it
Now only if either one was great at running the point...

Nah, Douglas's rep coming into the league was that he was a good shooter, and then it was really surprising when he couldn't hit anything at first. He finally came around and confirmed the initial expectation.

[EchelonNYK]

People still arguing over the pick? Get over it, he's a Knick.