DWill loves Turkey

HammerDunk · Post #1 » by **HammerDunk** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 3:55 pm

Per the tap: DWill to play in Turkey? Wow! Interesting/huge development here.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... h_Besiktas

MeestR · Post #2 » by **MeestR** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 4:52 pm

the drama train will follow this guy the rest of his career.

gojazzgo · Post #3 » by **gojazzgo** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 5:11 pm

Doesn't sound like a big deal if you read the article. Sounds like he's doing it so he has somewhere to play if the lockout doesn't get resolved. If it does, he can leave the club.

red4hf · Post #4 » by **red4hf** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 5:31 pm

He's under contract with the Nets..... I don't see how he could sign with any other team...... He is not a free agent......

The59Sound · Post #5 » by **The59Sound** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 5:36 pm

red4hf wrote:He's under contract with the Nets..... I don't see how he could sign with any other team...... He is not a free agent......

I guess that's sort of irrelevant since he's being "locked out" of his current job. The NBA will no doubt oppose this, but I'm not sure they're in a position to stop it.

seejaydeja · Post #6 » by **seejaydeja** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 5:47 pm

MeestR wrote:the drama train will follow this guy the rest of his career.

Not sure how this qualifies as "drama"

Dude's going overseas to get a paycheck and stay in shape during the lockout.

Post #7 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 6:08 pm

A paycheck and also an opportunity to spend some time living in a unique place.

carrottop12 · Post #8 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 6:16 pm

The NBA is actually violating his contract right now because they won't be paying him when the season starts. That allows him to sign wherever he wants. Good for hi , but I'm glad we aren't worrying about the injuries.

MeestR · Post #9 » by **MeestR** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 6:56 pm

When a news article about a controversial decision you made mentions a threat of lawsuits on either side, then that is drama IMO.

I kinda feel sorry for the guy. He just wants to make a living doing what he loves, but he is having a hard time finding people or organizations he works well with...hence the drama train is following him wherever he goes.

Jazz_Man_86 · Post #10 » by **Jazz_Man_86** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:06 pm

AK to Real Madrid.

4mil euros per year

HammerDunk · Post #11 » by **HammerDunk** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:24 pm

Jazz_Man_86 wrote:AK to Real Madrid.

4mil euros per year

Source?

carrottop12 · Post #12 » by **carrottop12** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:29 pm

Thats what AK wants, but apparently Real Madrid hasn't offered it.

HolyToledo · Post #13 » by **HolyToledo** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:40 pm

The Euro League might be worth watching!!!

HammerDunk · Post #14 » by **HammerDunk** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:45 pm

This throws an interesting wrench into what the NBA is trying to accomplish. I know that the contracts with Euro teams will include a clause where players can go back to the NBA once the lockout is over, but the willingness of players to go overseas is an advantage for the players association that the NFL doesn't have. I hope this makes some extra pressure to get things done.

Post #15 » by **StocktonShorts** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 7:59 pm

This confirms it: D-Will's desire all along has been to play in a major market.

red4hf · Post #16 » by **red4hf** » Thu Jul 7, 2011 8:02 pm

From Larry Coon, ESPN's cap expert......

Can NBA players play overseas during a lockout?

The answer to this one is "It's complicated." Stern said as far as he's concerned, the players can do what they want to do. But keep in mind, he's going to say that regardless -- he doesn't want to appear in any way to be trying to prevent the players from earning a living. Labor laws don't allow an employer to lock out its employees and prevent them from earning a living elsewhere.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what Stern says or does -- the decision isn't up to him.

In order to play professionally overseas, FIBA (the organizing body for international basketball) requires a Letter of Clearance from the player's national organizing body. In the case of players from the United States, that's USA Basketball. The Letter of Clearance certifies that the player is free to sign a contract -- i.e., he has no other contractual obligations that would get in the way. An NBA contract is such a contractual obligation. Lockout or not, it's still an existing contract. So on the surface, an NBA player who's under contract would not be allowed to sign in any FIBA league. NBA free agents, on the other hand, can sign wherever they'd like.

But here's the rub -- we're getting into uncharted territory. FIBA has never found itself in this position before. FIBA could decide to alter or suspend its rule requiring a Letter of Clearance, or allow contracts to be signed so long as they contain language that says the contract becomes null and void immediately if the NBA lockout ends.

More likely, FIBA simply would stick to its existing rule, essentially punting the problem to the national organizing bodies. These bodies (such as USA Basketball) could decide to issue a Letter of Clearance notwithstanding the NBA lockout. Or they could issue a Letter of Clearance with a specific notation about the lockout -- essentially punting the problem right back to FIBA.

Finally, the NBA players could take FIBA and/or the national organizing bodies to court. The ability to block players in a lockout has never been tested through litigation, and once they're there, anything can happen.

If players under contract are cleared to play in Europe, will there be a mass exodus?
It's doubtful. For one thing, there simply aren't enough teams with enough open roster spots to accommodate 400-plus NBA players. And the ones who do sign overseas will likely make only a fraction of what they earned in the NBA. The Euroleague and other FIBA leagues simply can't afford to pay NBA players commensurate with the salaries to which they've grown accustomed.

So we will probably see a few head overseas, but certainly not a Who's Who of NBA players.

HammerDunk · Post #17 » by **HammerDunk** » Fri Jul 8, 2011 12:43 am

The story is becoming fishy. Kfan had Britton Johnson on, and he was quite surprised that this team in particular would draw the attention of DWill. He knows of several players that are still waiting for paychecks for years of work. He isn't surprised that DWill would go over, but not to this team. The thing about them wanting Kobe too makes things seem pretty out there.

The Sheik · Post #18 » by **The Sheik** » Fri Jul 8, 2011 6:25 am

This IMHO is all PR by Deron's new management. He gets in the headlines all day, because he's the first guy to consider it. I think Deron doesn't even plan on actually playing there. He probably thinks the lockout ends before his contract starts with them.

BarneyGumble · Post #19 » by **BarneyGumble** » Fri Jul 8, 2011 2:58 pm

The Sheik wrote:This IMHO is all PR by Deron's new management. He gets in the headlines all day, because he's the first guy to consider it. I think Deron doesn't even plan on actually playing there. He probably thinks the lockout ends before his contract starts with them.

Is that you, Finnegan?

UTJazzFan_Echo1 · Post #20 » by **UTJazzFan_Echo1** » Fri Jul 8, 2011 9:19 pm

It's a great move for his PR but stupid/risky career wise.

What happens if he gets hurt badly or re-injures his wrist over there? Then what? I understand the appeal to go play over-seas during a lockout but man, that's a hard call to make when for D-Will just after having wrist surgery and he is about to hit the FA market during the most pivotal time of his career....guess we'll see what comes of it.