What Josh Harrellson Brings To the Knicks [Heat Related]

[Falstaffxx]

I think Jorts has a good chance to start if we don't sign FA big

Better chance than Jordan?

Well considering that both of them likely will have little to no chance, sure.

So what's our front-court? Amar'e/Shawne?

[moocow007]

Better chance than Jordan?

Well considering that both of them likely will have little to no chance, sure.

So what's our front-court? Amar'e/Shawne?

Turiaf is going to be the starting C for however long he stays healthy (unless a better option appears and neither Jordan nor Jorts are better options to be quite candid).

I would also be extremely, EXTREMELY surprised if they don't bring in at least one veteran C/PF type to share the load (Przybilla makes a lot of sense if he's healthy, Kwame Brown makes sense, Kurt Thomas, Etan Thomas, Jeff Foster, thjere are a lot of veteran bigs out there on the market that they can acquire for a 1 year contract so it doesn't step on their CP3 dreams).

Oh and I wouldn't rule out Jeffries III, regardless of how dreadful that may sound to some I would believe that they'd trust Jeffries more than either Jordan or Jorts to handle big minutes.

Shawne Williams I think they want back and, if he does return, then yeah, he'd be the backup PF I'd imagine. Derrick Brown is also a guy that can play PF, same with Balkman to some degree and both those guys are likely to be back as well.

[SonOfMars]

Egh, I'd take Jordan over Jorts, only because hes a bit taller, and a better shot blocker..

But tomato, tomahto..

[Falstaffxx]

Turiaf is going to be the starting C for however long he stays healthy (unless a better option appears and neither Jordan nor Jorts are better options to be quite candid).

I would also be extremely, EXTREMELY surprised if they don't bring in at least one veteran C/PF type to share the load (Przybilla makes a lot of sense if he's healthy, Kwame Brown makes sense, Kurt Thomas, Etan Thomas, Jeff Foster, thjere are a lot of veteran bigs out there on the market that they can acquire for a 1 year contract so it doesn't step on their CP3 dreams).

Oh and I wouldn't rule out Jeffries III, regardless of how dreadful that may sound to some I would believe that they'd trust Jeffries more than either Jordan or Jorts to handle big minutes.

Shawne Williams I think they want back and, if he does return, then yeah, he'd be the backup PF I'd imagine. Derrick Brown is also a guy that can play PF, same with Balkman to some degree and both those guys are likely to be back as well.

Okay, I'm just saying, as it currently stands we have Turiaf (20 mpg when healthy, which he often isn't) and Jordan/Harrellson. So until something changes, it won't take much for those guys to get on the court.

[TheToothFairy]

Every one of those guys have athletic, standing reach, and wingspan advantages on Harrellson besides Carl Landry, and most of those are PFs, small PFs too. Look Im not trying to put Jorts down because I love his attitude. He can make it if he becomes a super hustle/goon type and works on that jumper more, but theres no denying the guy is undersized and there was a reason he was going undrafted in most places. Im just trying to curb some enthusiasm for people thinking hes a center, because hed be the smallest center in the league despite his height. For all the flack Markieff Morris got about his short arms, Kieff has a 2 inch standing reach advantage on Josh.

Jorts had a 30 inchstanding Vert which is better than most of those guys. Hayes plays Center for Houston at 6'6, Blair plays Center at 6'7

Im not sure if Josh is quick enough to stay with PFs or big/long enough to bang with centers. Hes going to just have to get a very strong lower body a la Chuck Hayes and develop a 3 pt shot a la Scalabrine/Cardinal/Harangody to be effective.

I agree that he probably isnt quick enough for the Hybrid PF's but he can stay with the Bruiser types

The guy we need to hope plays well is Jerome Jordan. He has the size, length, with some decent skill to give us at least 10-15 mpg at some point if somebody holds a candle under his ass. Jerome was looked at as a first rounder not too long ago.

Agreed, no question Jordan has all the Physical tools but he seems to be more of a Offensive C from the little I have seen

[TheToothFairy]

I'm sure you're right that those guys have advantages over Harrellson, but isn't Harrellson a lot more bulky than them? He's undersized in terms of reach as a center, but he should be more than strong enough.

Jorts isnt stronger than Hayes, Perkins, Humphries, Haslem, Al Jeff, Big Baby, and Blair. Maybe Landry and Hansbrough, but those guys play tough too. The others are all bigger, longer, and more athletic than Jorts.

Being strong can only do so much. This isnt football. Many undersized and bulky players have failed miserably in the NBA. Luke Harangody is strong as sh*t with a bigger reach than Jorts, but you wont catch him playing center. Jorts' best chance is to drop weight, get stronger, get a nasty jumper and become a hustle PF like Luke.

Im done knocking Jorts though. Lets see what he can do.

Where are you getting you info from. Jorts is listed at 275LBS, and only Haslem is clearly more athletic

Hayes was a football player and plays Center at 6'6!

[TheToothFairy]

I think Jorts has a good chance to start if we don't sign FA big

Better chance than Jordan?

Based off what I saw last year, I cant comment on whether he has improved though

[NY2TheBay]

I'm sure you're right that those guys have advantages over Harrellson, but isn't Harrellson a lot more bulky than them? He's undersized in terms of reach as a center, but he should be more than strong enough.

Jorts isnt stronger than Hayes, Perkins, Humphries, Haslem, Al Jeff, Big Baby, and Blair. Maybe Landry and Hansbrough, but those guys play tough too. The others are all bigger, longer, and more athletic than Jorts.

Being strong can only do so much. This isnt football. Many undersized and bulky players have failed miserably in the NBA. Luke Harangody is strong as sh*t with a bigger reach than Jorts, but you wont catch him playing center. Jorts' best chance is to drop weight, get stronger, get a nasty jumper and become a hustle PF like Luke.

Im done knocking Jorts though. Lets see what he can do.

Where are you getting you info from. Jorts is listed at 275LBS, and only Haslem is clearly more athletic

Hayes was a football player and plays Center at 6'6!

Humphries is clearly more athletic. Haslem coming off the achillies injury isnt the same athlete and the others arent known for theyre athleticism.

[TheToothFairy]

^ Based on what? Jorts had surprisingly decent combine vert

[Ray Williams]

The undersized center I would like to see him pattern his game to is Dave Cowens.

[br7knicks]

Now, THAT'S what's up!!!

Ya feel me?!

--Mags[/size][/b]

this guy is 6'10. how tall are those girls with him? damn...

[DaRooster8]

I think the Garden will appreciate this kid. What do Knicks fans want? They want players that care and play with passion. I think you see some big men that just don't care (see Jerome James and Eddy Curry) this Harrellson kid seems to care and plays hard. That's all you can ask for in a 2nd round pick.

[pnayan]

Hoping he becomes our version of this guy

[moocow007]

Hoping he becomes our version of this guy

Or this guy without the craziness...I'd be thrilled if Jorts was the none-crazy caucasian version of him.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I was a big Danny Fortson fan before that nasty hit on Zarko. I honestly think Joorts has a much higher skill level than Danny. Danny was a goon in the truest sense.

[moocow007]

I was a big Danny Fortson fan before that nasty hit on Zarko. I honestly think Joorts has a much higher skill level than Danny. Danny was a goon in the truest sense.

I'm not so sure about much higher skill level but yeah it's the "guy that opposing players least like to face" notoriety that Fortson had that I would like Jorts to have. Really be an enforcer for this team.

[TheToothFairy]

Hoping he becomes our version of this guy

Or this guy without the craziness...I'd be thrilled if Jorts was the none-crazy caucasian version of him.

Yeah all signs point to him being a version of Laimbeer

A Brad Miller type would be great too

[NoMoreThrees]

Cant wait to see this guy drop forearms on the chosen ones of this league. Dudes gunna use his fouls. Dont care if he fouls out five minutes every game it will be worth it watching lebron laying on the ground lol.

[gavran]

Yeah all signs point to him being a version of Laimbeer

A Brad Miller type would be great too

You do realize that Laimbeer and Miller are on the opposite sides of the scale?

[NY2TheBay]

Yeah all signs point to him being a version of Laimbeer

A Brad Miller type would be great too

You do realize that Laimbeer and Miller are on the opposite sides of the scale?

And you do realize that Brad Miller and Laimbeer weren't known for their athleticism?