Will too much muscle mess up your skills?

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Re: Will too much muscle mess up your skills? 

Post#161 » by Kabookalu » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:26 am

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wilhelmthe1st wrote:SSJ3 Goku is the strongest actually. He could have ended it easily, but he wanted the others to finally save the f***ing day instead of taking all the glory himself. Which he ends up doing anyways.

Wrong. He said he could have probably beaten Fat Buu, but he wanted to give the young uns the chance. He crapped his pants when Super Buu was about to charge at him while Gohan was looking for the Potaraa ring in the rocks. Mystic Gohan > SSJ3 Goku.

Do you want more proof? Gohan ragdolled Super Buu. It was like SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell, it wasn't even close. Gohan didn't even fire off a ki blast in that fight, that is how dominant he was. But Goku went on record to say that even him plus Vegeta un-fused would stand no chance against Super Buu (thisc G was when they were inside Super Buu's body). So if Gohan could ragdoll Super Buu, and if Goku said himself he'd stand no chance, that makes Mystio gohan stronger.

There is no way Mystic Gohan could defeat Kid Buu. SSJ3 Goku would've beaten Kid Buu if Goku didn't let hold back to let Vegeta have a chance of fighing Kid Buu. Making SSJ3 Goku stronger.


It's been a while since I watched the Buu saga, but I believe Super Buu was stronger than Kid Buu, just that Kid Buu was more dangerous than Super Buu because he was an unconscious killing machine that only sought destruction. Mystic Gohan was slapping Super Buu around like a star swingman going up to dunk on Shawn Bradley, while SSJ3 Goku at best was matching Kid Buu in strength.
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Re: Will too much muscle mess up your skills? 

Post#162 » by venky » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:32 am

Damn you Toriyama, why did you have to cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#163 » by RojanRando » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:13 pm

venky wrote:Damn you Toriyama, why did you have to cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why was the Cell Saga written?!! You bastard!!!!
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Post#164 » by venky » Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:34 pm

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venky wrote:Damn you Toriyama, why did you have to cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why was the Cell Saga written?!! You bastard!!!!

His money hungry wife made him. He should have quit there though, the Buu saga was terribad.
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Post#165 » by RojanRando » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:20 pm

venky wrote:
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venky wrote:Damn you Toriyama, why did you have to cave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why was the Cell Saga written?!! You bastard!!!!

His money hungry wife made him. He should have quit there though, the Buu saga was terribad.


I actually thought the Buu saga was hilarious fun. It just felt so unserious. the cell saga was annoying because it was terrible and campy trying to pretend to be serious.
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Post#166 » by venky » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:43 pm

RojanRando wrote:I actually thought the Buu saga was hilarious fun. It just felt so unserious. the cell saga was annoying because it was terrible and campy trying to pretend to be serious.

The main problem I had with it, was that it was trying to be funny like Dragonball, but it just didn't work for me, because I was so used to the seriousness. I guess the next time I watch it, I'll have to take a different perspective.
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Re: Will too much muscle mess up your skills? 

Post#167 » by cb4_89 » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:55 pm

venky wrote:
Rondo wrote:There is no way Mystic Gohan could defeat Kid Buu. SSJ3 Goku would've beaten Kid Buu if Goku didn't let hold back to let Vegeta have a chance of fighing Kid Buu. Making SSJ3 Goku stronger.


lolwut? Kid Buu is WEAKER than Super Buu!! In the original Japanese manga, it's stated that Kid Buu is the most dangerous, not the strongest. This is because Kid Buu is, well, like a kid. He can't be reasoned with, unlike Fat Buu and Super Buu. Face it, Toriyama HAD to create a weaker Buu for Goku to kill, and even then, he needed the whole Earth to help him. Gohan would murder Kid Buu.

But, explain to me how Goku > Gohan, if Goku himself said he'd get destroyed by Super Buu while Gohan raped him? Explain, I'd love to hear it. Gohan is the strongest UNFUSED character in all of DBZ.


This post has it right. Kid Buu was just a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) that would destroy the planet they were fighting on, regenerate and move on. Super Buu was insanely strong and Gohan was demolishing him.
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Post#168 » by Father Time » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:56 am

All I know is that my jump shot broke after I started working out and putting on muscle.
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Post#169 » by Gmen » Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:15 am

Muscle is not THAT important in basketball anyways.
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Post#170 » by gino_giode » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:18 am

On a serious note, anybody else have problems with losing your "touch" after gaining muscle?

I'm pretty bulky now and sometimes I have embarrassing moments even shooting FTs. My arms are pretty big but I airball or leave it short on the front of the rim, simply because I can't accurately gauge how much spin/oomph to put on it.
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Post#171 » by LaLa » Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:58 am

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Post#172 » by supaSPED » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:48 pm

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Post#174 » by SauceOnRice » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:53 pm

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Post#175 » by Father Time » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:07 pm

gino_giode wrote:On a serious note, anybody else have problems with losing your "touch" after gaining muscle?

I'm pretty bulky now and sometimes I have embarrassing moments even shooting FTs. My arms are pretty big but I airball or leave it short on the front of the rim, simply because I can't accurately gauge how much spin/oomph to put on it.


This is pretty much what is happening to me.
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Re: Will too much muscle mess up your skills? 

Post#176 » by Joseph17 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:07 pm

gino_giode wrote:On a serious note, anybody else have problems with losing your "touch" after gaining muscle?

I'm pretty bulky now and sometimes I have embarrassing moments even shooting FTs. My arms are pretty big but I airball or leave it short on the front of the rim, simply because I can't accurately gauge how much spin/oomph to put on it.

You have to work on your shot right after you lift. If you don't it'll mess up your shot.
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Post#177 » by RealRip32 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:09 pm

great thread,just want to be part of it.
oh,imho DBZ would have been perfect if they stopped after the Namec saga.
that was THE climax of it.

also,what's FLCL?extended name for what anime?
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Post#178 » by miltk » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:34 pm

KV20 wrote:Am i wrong about that?
In this sport throughout the years we have seen that the players that don't lift weight were the best skilled in basketball.
Does it mean that a player like Dwight Howard will never be a great skilled player even on working harder than anybody?


"cum hoc" fallacy.

also,,,,pick a position other than pf or c,,,,like 1 or 2.

also,,,,since the nba is vastly numbered with "less muscular players", then your choices of players will also be limited, and of those limited number of players, you will find fewer "skilled" players by simple lack of numbers, and of that smaller sampling most will be power players anyway. i can make an argument that those power players spend more time in the weight room because they do all the dirty work. i can make an argument that cp3 is relatively muscled(stocky-wise. also dwill)) compared to other pg's but they are the two best pg's in the nba. lawson is very skilled, just really short.

"skilled" doesn't require muscle, but not "because of".
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Post#179 » by RojanRando » Sat Jul 16, 2011 5:35 pm

RealRip32 wrote:great thread,just want to be part of it.
oh,imho DBZ would have been perfect if they stopped after the Namec saga.
that was THE climax of it.

also,what's FLCL?extended name for what anime?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLCL
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Re: Will too much muscle mess up your skills? 

Post#180 » by Archerbro » Sat Jul 16, 2011 6:26 pm

pross wrote:
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pross wrote:I can tell who the asians are from reading this thread.

:o


I'm not asian and I loved DBZ as a kid. I thought everybody did honestly?


Growing up, only my asian friends watched it.

everybody watched dbz bro, your friends probably did but didn't tell anyone.

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