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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#21 » by Sixerlover » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:02 pm

An Iguodala for Wes Matthews deal wouldn't really fare well as your first trade post ownership of the team. Especially when Marcus Camby retires the day after the trade was announced. So they probably nixed it to see what they can get on the market post CBA agreement. If they even did indeed nix the deal.
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Post#22 » by Lapinski » Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:14 am

Sad thing is, the 76ers could have signed Wes Matthews the year before instead of Rodney frickin Carney.

Great Job by Stefanski.
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Post#23 » by Mik317 » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:29 pm

Lapinski wrote:Sad thing is, the 76ers could have signed Wes Matthews the year before instead of Rodney frickin Carney.

Great Job by Stefanski.


Bu-but he's FAST and can DUNK HAWD.

all that other stuff is overrated.
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Post#24 » by SJSF » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:21 pm

As a Sixer fan it makes sense. Wes can hit the 3 and shoot very well. He did average 16 points a game. Shoots over 80% from the line and 40% from 3 point line. I just don't see why Portland would want him with Wallace on your roster. And If Camby does retire so what. Its 9m off the books. Wes's cap number of 6m is pretty good for a young SG that can play.
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Post#25 » by ChuckS » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:42 pm

SJSF wrote: I just don't see why Portland would want him with Wallace on your roster.


Precisely! This makes absolutely no basketball sense to me. Portland also has Batum, and he, Wallace and Matthews are also all excellent defenders. Like us, they need bigs.
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Post#26 » by KrazySixersD » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:24 pm

i would have liked both deals... i think matthews can play SF cant he? maybe not either way i would do either deal more than likely
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Post#27 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:31 pm

Lapinski wrote:Sad thing is, the 76ers could have signed Wes Matthews the year before instead of Rodney frickin Carney.

Great Job by Stefanski.


so could of 29 other teams.... it wasnt like he was a no brainer signing.
he was an undrafted rookie, utah signed him to fill a roster spot, and he panned out.
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Post#28 » by Sixerscan » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:00 am

Wallace played almost exclusively at the 4 for the Blazers. The Aldridge/Wallace front court was very effective down the stretch, and it seems like they are going forward with that combo.

If that is in fact their plan, then they need plus rebounding from their small forward. Iguodala would obviously provide that aspect. Additionally, they traded Miller. Yeah they got Felton, but he doesn't dominate the ball nearly as much as Miller. Iguodala can provide them another ball handler that Matthews couldn't.

I don't know if they actually want Iguodala, but he would make some sense for them. And if Matthews isn't just a byproduct of playing with great distributing point guards, he could be a good pick up for us.

Also, don't expect the Blazers to trade anything for a real center. They don't want to give up hope that Oden will some day be healthy, and will probably be committing to at least his $8+ million QO this summer, maybe even giving him a multi year deal.
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#29 » by ChuckS » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:50 am

Sixerscan wrote:Wallace played almost exclusively at the 4 for the Blazers. The Aldridge/Wallace front court was very effective down the stretch, and it seems like they are going forward with that combo.

If that is in fact their plan, then they need plus rebounding from their small forward. Iguodala would obviously provide that aspect. Additionally, they traded Miller. Yeah they got Felton, but he doesn't dominate the ball nearly as much as Miller. Iguodala can provide them another ball handler that Matthews couldn't.


Excellent points. You have me second guessing myself. And do not misunderstand, I think adding AI would improve any team.

I might still worry that Aldridge and Wallace might be a little small/light against some teams, sans Oden (and he is a huge question), and particularly without Camby, but it is unlikely they will often be outscored or out-talented. Dre would also help on the rebounding, which on occasion has been problematic.

Also, with Batum at the two (or three), they probably could win most games with 90 points. That is an awesome defensive trio.

My personal opinion, from reading their board, is that Portland fans would be unhappy with the lesser three point shooting. They didn't think they had enough even with a healthy Roy, and with Blake, Webster, and Outlaw.

Their questionable big man status and depth would still be my biggest concern. It is a matter of priorities when spending $13 Mil at a position of relative strength instead of one of potential need. I do think going either way would improve the team, but they do seem dangerously "thin" up front.
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#30 » by NashtyNas » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:42 am

The Sixer Fixer wrote:There would have had to be someone else included with Iguodala for that Portland deal to go down. We would be taking back way too much salary as just a 2-1.

Edit: The salaries aren't off by as much as I first thought. Including someone like Speights would make it work.


Yeah, Speights woulda got it done and would be a great addition value wise for Portland as they would be VERY thin upfront after getting rid of Camby. I just don't see why Portland is interested at all though, because they're already a terrible shooting team, and trading Matthews for Iggy hurts a lot in that category. Where does Iggy fit with Wallace/Batum on board, and a possibility that Roy could play 20+ MPG? He doesn't, unless they were then looking to cash Iggy for Monta themselves.
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Post#31 » by SJSF » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:24 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Wallace played almost exclusively at the 4 for the Blazers. The Aldridge/Wallace front court was very effective down the stretch, and it seems like they are going forward with that combo.

If that is in fact their plan, then they need plus rebounding from their small forward. Iguodala would obviously provide that aspect. Additionally, they traded Miller. Yeah they got Felton, but he doesn't dominate the ball nearly as much as Miller. Iguodala can provide them another ball handler that Matthews couldn't.

I don't know if they actually want Iguodala, but he would make some sense for them. And if Matthews isn't just a byproduct of playing with great distributing point guards, he could be a good pick up for us.

Also, don't expect the Blazers to trade anything for a real center. They don't want to give up hope that Oden will some day be healthy, and will probably be committing to at least his $8+ million QO this summer, maybe even giving him a multi year deal.




That would be a 55m cap hit for that team in 2012-2013 for 4 players. I can't see that happening
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#32 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:51 pm

Why would we trade Iguodala for another guard? It would put us right back in the same situation we are already in with Iguodala. I love Monta Ellis but how would he fit next to Holiday? How does he fit into a rotation with Turner, Meeks, and Williams?
Unless Wes Mathews can play exclusively at the small forward I don't see how he fits either. Moving forward with this team the one strength that we had was our guard play.

48 minutes to divide between five players at a guard position is a lot to juggle. Someone would take a dip in minutes and it would probably be Jodie Meeks. I wouldn't like that considering how above and beyond he went for us last season. He deserves to play. As would Williams, Holiday, Turner, and Mathews.
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#33 » by Redlight » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:08 am

Wes Matthews would be an asset to any team. The 76ers are not set at the 2 guard,but Wes Matthews could fill that void. I think the new ownership will eliminate Stefanski for starters before anything is done. Thorn could also be out the door,especially with Thorn crossing 70 years of old. We might as well start from scratch. :oops:
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#34 » by SJSF » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:44 pm

WE have

PG Jrue, Lou
SG Meeks
SF Turner, Iggy

If we trade Iggy for Wes Mathews, we would have

PG Jrue, Lou
SG Wes, Meeks
SF Turner, and maybe Thad/Noc

I don't see where the problem is. I for one would like a veteran PG to backup Jrue though.
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Re: Iguodala was traded but new owners nixed deals? 

Post#35 » by Foshan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:28 pm

SJSF wrote:WE have

PG Jrue, Lou
SG Meeks
SF Turner, Iggy


I thought I remember you arguing through pages and pages that Lou wasn't a back up PG (sorry, might not have been you). So wouldn't our depth be more like:

Jrue
Meeks/Turner/Lou
Iggy

I'm not a big fan of Turner at the 3.

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