Scavenger Hunt Draft Winner: Sachmo!!!

[-Ian-]

Bosh never played in the D-League. Fats probably misplaced him on the list. I picked him for the Southpaw category.

[captaincrunk]

^ Bosh never played in the D-League. Fats probably misplaced him on the list. I picked him for the Southpaw category.

my bad. I saw that and started looking for everyone who had been in the D-League thinking it had to be so much more common than previously thought.

I know who I want to pick! Gah please don't pick him!

[TheKingofSting]

I feel I need to post this but I was not trying to call Slam out like that, I don't want people to think I'm an ***hole, I don't always read through the post, I just go to page 1 of this thread and ctrl + F to see if anyone on my big board list has already been taken already. I totally overlooked the year thing too.

[fatlever]

sorry i have been MIA most of the day. seems like everything was worked out. Ian, i'll fix the bosh pick if slam hasnt done it already.

my pick

homegrown - kevin martin - western carolina university

[fatlever]

Bosh never played in the D-League. Fats probably misplaced him on the list. I picked him for the Southpaw category.

fixed, moved to southpaw

[captaincrunk]

C'mon countryboi, leave me somebody good...

[BigSlam]

I feel I need to post this but I was not trying to call Slam out like that, I don't want people to think I'm an ***hole, I don't always read through the post, I just go to page 1 of this thread and ctrl + F to see if anyone on my big board list has already been taken already. I totally overlooked the year thing too.

You are such a prick k2h. I know you are just gunning for me.



Obviously I am kidding. It's my fault - I'm glad you pointed it out. I didn't really think it through. I always had Jordan pegged as my available C to team with Love and was going to take him as my southpaw, then at the last min I remembered the 2nd round cat and figured I would slide him in there - but I didn't check the limitations to see the year span it had to me in.

[captaincrunk]

It's gonna suck if he picks right after I fall asleep. Who should I PM my pick to (with a backup of course)?

[-Ian-]

Bosh never played in the D-League. Fats probably misplaced him on the list. I picked him for the Southpaw category.

fixed, moved to southpaw

Thanks!

It's gonna suck if he picks right after I fall asleep. Who should I PM my pick to (with a backup of course)?

You can send your pick to fats and/or Slam.

[fatlever]

It's gonna suck if he picks right after I fall asleep. Who should I PM my pick to (with a backup of course)?

i'll probably be sleeping the same time you are.

i am usually offline from about midnight to 10am. slam is usually online earlier than i am. however this late, i wouldnt worry too much, unless you know you wont be online in the morning.

[captaincrunk]

It's gonna suck if he picks right after I fall asleep. Who should I PM my pick to (with a backup of course)?

i'll probably be sleeping the same time you are.

i am usually offline from about midnight to 10am. slam is usually online earlier than i am. however this late, i wouldnt worry too much, unless you know you wont be online in the morning.

Sounds good.

[JMAC3]

Okay. I am going to admit that Brook Lopez is not a defensive center, but that is not what a center has to be. His numbers are not even bad on defense. He averaged 8.1 rebounds in first year, 8.7 rebounds in second year, and 5.9 this year. There is a obvious drop off, but this is because of a few reasons. One is that his shoulder had a calcium buildup so he was not healthy, but yet missed no games. Also, Kris Humphries is an excellent rebounder which probably hurt Brooks stats a bit.

I would put money down that he averages at least 8 boards a game this year. He has also yet to miss a game in his career. Has a career average of 1.7 blks per game which is above average for a center in this league. His offensive numbers are second to only Dwight Howard. He has probably the best array of offensive game for a center in the nba...Midrange, Hook Shoot, 80 percent from the line, Soft Hands, and Great footwork. Also, he is not soft on Offense he was sixth in centers in dunks this year, top 12 in blocks for centers, 3rd in Scoring among centers, 3rd in freethrow percentage, 2nd in freethrows per game.

How about you guys actually do some research on the guys before you just go with what everyone says about him....He is soft, can't rebound, worst defensive center in league, doesnt play in the post. I think when you take all this into consideration he is a top 5 center in this league.

I will take Over 20 pts per game, 8 boards, 1.7 blocks, and actually be able to knock down free throws from my 5 spot any day.

[Takuya Kimura]

^^^Wow Tyson is getting a lot of love now. People saying he's better than Nene, Horford, and Noah?

lol.

Both Nene and Horford are undersized which hurt them quite a bit,in contrast Tyson is a 7-1 legit C,and as if they are much better than on offense than Tyson,here are their playoff stats:
Tyson 10 ppg on 58%
Horford 14ppg on 43%
Nene 14ppg on 47%
Noah 9ppg on 41% (31% against the Heat)


Rebound %:
Tyson 17.4%
Horford 14.9%
Nene 15.5%
Noah 18.4%

Defense:
Tyson is best out of the 4,Horford plays great man to man defense but his length disables him to control the paint,Nene has a similar problem to Horford,but he is arguably the best PnR defender league wide,Noah plays good help defense,but he can't guard any C and his man to man defense is horrific,very overrated.

[captaincrunk]

Okay. I am going to admit that Brook Lopez is not a defensive center, but that is not what a center has to be. His numbers are not even bad on defense. He averaged 8.1 rebounds in first year, 8.7 rebounds in second year, and 5.9 this year. There is a obvious drop off, but this is because of a few reasons. One is that his shoulder had a calcium buildup so he was not healthy, but yet missed no games. Also, Kris Humphries is an excellent rebounder which probably hurt Brooks stats a bit.

I would put money down that he averages at least 8 boards a game this year. He has also yet to miss a game in his career. Has a career average of 1.7 blks per game which is above average for a center in this league. His offensive numbers are second to only Dwight Howard. He has probably the best array of offensive game for a center in the nba...Midrange, Hook Shoot, 80 percent from the line, Soft Hands, and Great footwork. Also, he is not soft on Offense he was sixth in centers in dunks this year, top 12 in blocks for centers, 3rd in Scoring among centers, 3rd in freethrow percentage, 2nd in freethrows per game.

How about you guys actually do some research on the guys before you just go with what everyone says about him....He is soft, can't rebound, worst defensive center in league, doesnt play in the post. I think when you take all this into consideration he is a top 5 center in this league.

I will take Over 20 pts per game, 8 boards, 1.7 blocks, and actually be able to knock down free throws from my 5 spot any day.

No, Shaq is. Just a few years ago he was posting stats and blah blah blah...

Blocks are not all there is to defense, and he had 1.5. He also only had 6 boards, and since you're posting career numbers, shouldn't you be saying 17?

Centers are supposed to do a few things on defense. One of which is defensive rebounds. All players need to be getting defensive rebounds, but if your center doesn't then that leaves more people staying behind to try to make up for it, instead of tearing down the court to set up the offense or the fast break. It also means giving up second chance points.

Another is man to man post defense. Great post defenders like Perkins and Dwight don't need help, but if Brook doesn't get a double team it's almost an instant score. He can't be the main post defender on a team. Pair him with Bismack, or better yet a guy like Noah and he can take the weaker player. But that leaves him probably guarding the quicker player on the high post and he can't really do that either.

Another thing is challenging the lane and preventing open layups and stuff. He doesn't really get after it here, especially on pick and rolls.

He's still really good, but I don't really think he's your prototypical center. He's an oversized, slow power forward. He's like Carlos Boozer without the post play and rebounding, but a couple inches taller.

Not that any of this really matters I guess.

[Paydro70]

Man, lots of points here while waiting for the next pick.

1) 8rpg is still not good for a center playing major minutes. His best rebounding year was actually his rookie year at 15.8%, which would make him about average for a center. Whenever a player's stats actually DECLINE from his rookie year, however, it doesn't really bode well for future performance. It may well be that Brook is actually an OK rebounder when healthy and motivated (which one can hardly blame him for not being on that New Jersey team), but this past season did a lot of damage to that idea.

2) I don't think there's any doubt that Lopez is one of the best offensive centers in the league. Bargnani is the only one who had to shoulder a heavier load, yet he managed a respectable 54.9 TS%. As a second or third option behind Curry and Melo? I think he could have much better efficiency.

3) None of this changes the fact that he's a bad defender. He's not the worst in the league, that's Jefferson, but it's a downside that's not there with some players who are not so far behind on offense.

4) I for one will not be fooled by Chandler's 2011. This was by far his best season as a pro, to believe that he's going to repeat it requires me to believe he's going to be healthy, always on a one-year contract, and playing for the NBA champion.

5) Posting his per game playoff stats as if they demonstrate something about his offense is a pretty cheap ploy. Both Nene and Horford actually score outside of dunks and tips, are physically capable of passing, and somehow have a LOWER turnover rate than a man who does nothing but dunk as the fifth option. Chandler, when healthy and motivated, may admittedly be better than Noah.

[countryboi]

carlos boozer homegrown.....ugh

[Takuya Kimura]

Just curious but in what way is Boozer homegrown?

[JMAC3]

Just curious but in what way is Boozer homegrown?

He played at Duke.....

[Takuya Kimura]

Is Duke a Carolina college?I don't know anything about things like this since I am an asian and Wiki didn't say anything about Duke and Carolina.

[-Ian-]

^ Yes. Duke is located in Durham, North Carolina. Same as Wake Forest which is located in Winston-Salem.

Just like what Sachmo said, this draft makes us learn something about college basketball.