Boxing Thread 3.0

[Iman Shumpert]

It's sad that someone with so much talent could be so mentally weak.

[40 Guzzle]

you could make a case for the lowblow if the fight up to that point wasnt so one sided

Khan was a technician in there

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Judah got his ass handed to him. He is also a bad actor. Acting like he got hit in the balls, and then springing up at the end of the 10-count. I dont believe him at all, he was just looking for a way out of that fight.

[Iman Shumpert]

you could make a case for the lowblow if the fight up to that point wasnt so one sided

Khan was a technician in there

I think the rule is anything above the bellybutton is legal. And since I couldn't see his bellybutton, I'm gonna assume it's somewhere around the belt. You could even see in the replay that Khan was punching upward and hit him in the stomach area.

He was clearly trying to buy time because all of a sudden when the ref counted him out, he sprung up to his feet and was OK.

That's what's annoying about this. Clearly he was fine and could've gotten up at any time. He just robbed us of a potentially exciting fight. Zab "No Heart' Judah.

[Blame Rasho]

I have been hit like that... you can get up.

It was a lame fight...

The next fight Miadana vs Guerrero will be a FOTY type quality...

Oh yeah... noticed that they didn't say that Ross Greenburg was the executive producer at the end of the fight.

[Blame Rasho]

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blog/_ ... ch-delayed

There is going to be more boxing on HBO, which is a good thing, but just not as soon as was originally scheduled.

A new series, which is still untitled but will focus mainly on up-and-coming fighters -- think a pricier version of Showtime's "ShoBox: The New Generation" -- was supposed to debut this month with the first of at least 12 monthly tripleheaders (usually a four- or six-rounder to open up, followed by a six- or eight-rounder in the middle followed by a 10- or 12-round main event).

However, multiple sources involved in the project have told me the debut of the series, which will air on HBO2, has been delayed until January. Promoters Lou DiBella, Gary Shaw and Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy signed a deal with the network in early March, under which each of them would promote three shows apiece in the first year of the series.

HBO is paying $150,000 per show, according to the deal memo the promoters and former HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg signed. The network was originally going to keep the remaining three shows in its pocket to dole out as wild cards until Top Rank's Bob Arum complained to upper management about his company's lack of involvement, which was understandable, considering Top Rank has one of the best stables of fighters in the world.

(The day and time slot for the series have not been determined, but it likely will air on a weeknight, with Tuesday or Thursday being discussed. The broadcast team also has not been determined.)

Long story short, Arum's complaint was heard loud and clear. HBO gave him the three remaining three dates even though, if you believe Arum, he said he would have preferred to compete for all 12 dates by offering the best fights and fighters he could rather than just be handed three of them. Arum has seen output deals go well and poorly. With his highly successful series "Top Rank Boxing," he was the exclusive boxing content provider for a once-fledgling network called ESPN. But he also presided over one of the worst output deal flops in history when Versus handed him a slate of lucrative dates and he shot the deal to hell by saddling it with horrible mismatches and riddled it with uninteresting fights. (Tye Fields, anyone?)

Arum told me he regrets the Versus deal, which got him to change his tune on output deals.

"We convinced Versus to do it and we did a [poor] job and they terminated us," Arum said. "We deserved it. When ESPN was starting we were brought in and did a weekly show, and we did such a good job it lasted for 15 years."

Shaw figures to use his dates to help develop exciting welterweight prospect Thomas Dulorme and rising cruiserweight contender Lateef Kayode, among others. DiBella will aim to continue the development of super middleweight prospect Edwin Rodriguez, for example. DiBella and Shaw have also signed several quality Puerto Rican prospects together, including Dulorme and Jose Pedraza.

Golden Boy and Top Rank have numerous young fighters in their stables. You have to figure we'll see fighters such as Golden Boy's Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Frankie Gomez and Daniel Jacobs and Top Rank's Matvey Korobov, Diego Magdaleno, Glen Tapia and Jose Benavidez.

With network television a thing of the past, boxing needs more regular outlets to develop the next generation of fighters. ESPN2's "Friday Night Fights" and Showtime's "ShoBox" do a great job, but they can't do it alone. With the biggest budget in the sport -- around $35 million a year for license fees -- and the highest profile, I applaud HBO for being proactive to help find the future faces of boxing, who someday could populate its flagship series, "World Championship Boxing," not to mention eventually move to pay-per-view if they become big enough stars.

This new series could be a tremendous asset to the sport. HBO is committed to spending roughly $1.8 million in license fees on it for the first year. I hope, even with reduced leverage after having already given out all of the dates, HBO -- and the fight fans -- get the most bang for their buck.

[Blame Rasho]

Oh yeah next time... PM for some streams for boxing or mma. I will do my best to hook you up...

[GS Warriors 1]

Judah was definitely looking for a way out, he quit.

Khan wasn't great or anything but he was real solid. You have to think Bradley is up next in the fall or winter.

I'm also pretty sure that I'm checking out Maidana/Guerrero live in SJ. It's a good fight and tixs are relatively cheap.

[ClutchOver9000]

Idk, I'm not sold on Amir Khan yet. Regardless of Judah's recent wins, IMO he's been done for a while now. Amir Khan's chin obviously isn't that good, and I don't think he can withstand body blows that well either. He does have sick handspeed and good power though...

[Blame Rasho]

Idk, I'm not sold on Amir Khan yet. Regardless of Judah's recent wins, IMO he's been done for a while now. Amir Khan's chin obviously isn't that good, and I don't think he can withstand body blows that well either. He does have sick handspeed and good power though...

He took some massive hits from what most people consider the hardest hitter in the sport pound per pound... His chin is solid...

Khan is pretty damn good but isn't unbeatable... which makes him more interesting than most fighters at 140.

[ClutchOver9000]

Idk, I'm not sold on Amir Khan yet. Regardless of Judah's recent wins, IMO he's been done for a while now. Amir Khan's chin obviously isn't that good, and I don't think he can withstand body blows that well either. He does have sick handspeed and good power though...

He took some massive hits from what most people consider the hardest hitter in the sport pound per pound... His chin is solid...

Khan is pretty damn good but isn't unbeatable... which makes him more interesting than most fighters at 140.

Eh....still not sold on this kid even though judging from the hype + his performances means I should be sold but he lacks something to me which I cant really put my finger on it. Idk, maybe I'm talking out of my a$$ but Khan hasn't really impressed me just yet where I actually go; wow this kid is a future face of boxing (like he clearly wants to be).

But yea he's arguably the fastest puncher today along w/ other promising boxers like Berto and heavily accomplished superstar vets like Pacquiao and Mayweather.

I wanna see a Khan-Bradley fight though....

[vi3t]

if Bradley really wanted to fight Khan then it would have been him in there last night instead of Judah, at this point he needs Khan more than Khan needs him

[Gold Chain]

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So, Floyd says in LA that Manny is next, after Ortiz.

Can we hold him to that? It has to happen.

[Blame Rasho]

Mayweather and Ortiz are the two fakest individuals in boxing...

[Blame Rasho]

if Bradley really wanted to fight Khan then it would have been him in there last night instead of Judah, at this point he needs Khan more than Khan needs him

I am of the opinion that Bradley isn't that good.... and would get destroyed by Khan much less Manny or Mayweather...

[Dry_Fish]

I agree with that opinion. I have not been impressed with any of Bradley wins. His biggest wins are Hatton's left overs.

Bradly doesn't match up well with Khan either. He doesn't have one punch knock out and Khan speed will be too much.

[Rich Rane]

Mayweather and Ortiz are the two fakest individuals in boxing...

Haye just fought for that title.

He took some massive hits from what most people consider the hardest hitter in the sport pound per pound... His chin is solid...

And what hits he took! I'm so surprised he didn't go down in the late rounds against Maidana. The lasting images from the Prescott fight will linger in everyone's heads though, sadly including mine, but I don't think anyone else at 140 has that type of power.

[Rich Rane]

Antonio Tarver just defeated Danny Green in the 10th round by TKO. The fight wasn't really close - Green was held up by the ropes in the first and knocked down in the second. Green may have taken one round after that.

This was the only logical choice Tarver could make if he wants to continue his career. There are no money fights at cruiserweight, but there's also a lack of talent compared to the light heavyweight division and add a belt to the collection.

[Rich Rane]

The next fight Miadana vs Guerrero will be a FOTY type quality...

The best fight of the summer.

Oh yeah... noticed that they didn't say that Ross Greenburg was the executive producer at the end of the fight.

Wasn't he let go or fired a couple weeks ago?

[Blame Rasho]

He didn't sign an contact extention... i.e.... he got his ass fired.