Michael Beasley

[captaincrunk]

Most bball players aren't exactly college material.

Now who's exaggerating. First of all I reject this idea, becuase of the racist connotation that it has always implied.

You're the only one to bring race into this.

Second I went to school with quite a few morons who were only there, because there rich parents insisted.

Their* and drop the comma.

Also, good for you?

Third these kids have to qualify with satisfactory grades and SAT scores just like other kids do.

Tell that to Derrick Rose.

Some of these kids like Shane Battier and Jason Williams go on to become academic all americans. The stereotype dumb jock is just that a stereotype. Just ask Magic Johnson, Norm Nixon, and Kevin Johnson about it.

Then ask Allen Iverson, Michael Beasley, Stephen Jackson, etc.

[Kembastockton]

Crunk it is a good thing you brought up your college experience or I would swear that you guys were ten. Do you ever ask a person what they mean before you assume the worst? I am sorry did I miss something? When did it become the thing to do to attack a person who dares use the word racist? They do exist you know. They have just smartened up. They know that they will get more results by doing their dirt, and never admitting to their true intentions.

I said that I reject the idea because of the racist connotation that it has always implied. Always! As in I have heard this idea many times before. Forgive me if that was not your implication. I never meant to imply that it was. I was pointing to the fact that the arguement is usually pointed at black athletes. Maybe you guys are to young to remember this, but in the early eighties the media use to put forward all kinds of bone head questions like why do black people only seem to excel at sports or singing and dancing. Oh, and I can't forget my favorite. Are light skinned blacks smarter than darker skinned blacks?

I don't mean to imply that it never happens. I have a problem with that word most. When you use that word most you have to realize that means that most of the basketball players in all of the municpalities, in all of the states, in all of the countries of the entire world are not college material. Maybe I am just an optimist, but that is hard to swallow. Also just because someone gassed these players heads up at an early age doesn' t mean that if they chose to apply themselves they would fail to achieve. Aptitude is only one measure of success. One of the slowest guys I went to school with became one of the most successful, becuase his parents taught him how to make good decisions. That can be flipped Intelligent people often fail to be successful due to poor decision making.

[captaincrunk]

Crunk it is a good thing you brought up your college experience or I would swear that you guys were ten. Do you ever ask a person what they mean before you assume the worst? I am sorry did I miss something? When did it become the thing to do to attack a person who dares use the word racist? They do exist you know. They have just smartened up. They know that they will get more results by doing their dirt, and never admitting to their true intentions.

In other words, I'm some kind of secret racist doing what I can to ensure that negroes in the NBa are viewed as unintelligent. I am so cunning, I didn't even know that myself!

I said that I reject the idea because of the racist connotation that it has always implied. Always! As in I have heard this idea many times before. Forgive me if that was not your implication. I never meant to imply that it was. I was pointing to the fact that the arguement is usually pointed at black athletes. Maybe you guys are to young to remember this, but in the early eighties the media use to put forward all kinds of bone head questions like why do black people only seem to excel at sports or singing and dancing. Oh, and I can't forget my favorite. Are light skinned blacks smarter than darker skinned blacks?

Ok dude, whatever.

I don't mean to imply that it never happens. I have a problem with that word most. When you use that word most you have to realize that means that most of the basketball players in all of the municpalities, in all of the states, in all of the countries of the entire world are not college material.

I was referring specifically to NBA players (Michael Beasley's peers).

Maybe I am just an optimist, but that is hard to swallow. Also just because someone gassed these players heads up at an early age doesn' t mean that if they chose to apply themselves they would fail to achieve.

Well, they've made their decisions already.

Aptitude is only one measure of success. One of the slowest guys I went to school with became one of the most successful, becuase his parents taught him how to make good decisions. That can be flipped Intelligent people often fail to be successful due to poor decision making.

And Beasley is a millionaire. Doesn't make him "college material".

[penquin11]

Some things that I have to say:

1. Pot is NOT A GATEWAY DRUG!!!! John Hopkins did a study on this, look it up in google.....

2. Character issues can down a team (Terrell Owens **** up every team he was on...)

3. Michael Beasley is not the answer.... We need to draft a young guy who doesnt have the IQ of a rock to help our team (aka Harrison Barnes)

[SWedd523]

Of course he isn't the answer.

[captaincrunk]

Of course he isn't the answer.

I'd trade the roster for a rookie A.I., "character problems" or not.

[Kembastockton]

In other words, I'm some kind of secret racist doing what I can to ensure that negroes in the NBa are viewed as unintelligent. I am so cunning, I didn't even know that myself!

You love to put words in my mouth. I said exactly what I meant. There is no need for you to look for a translation.

I was referring specifically to NBA players (Michael Beasley's peers).

That is still hard to swallow. To say a person is not college material says that a person has to be pretty unintelligent. After all how intelligent do you have to be graduate with a political science or Enviornmental science degree.

Well, they've made their decisions already.

You made the statement that these players were not college material not that they were not currently college ready. I don't know whether Beasley is college material or not. I just know that he makes dumb mistakes at times.

[captaincrunk]

In other words, I'm some kind of secret racist doing what I can to ensure that negroes in the NBa are viewed as unintelligent. I am so cunning, I didn't even know that myself!

You love to put words in my mouth. I said exactly what I meant. There is no need for you to look for a translation.

But what you say is so boring by comparison!

I was referring specifically to NBA players (Michael Beasley's peers).

That is still hard to swallow. To say a person is not college material says that a person has to be pretty unintelligent. After all how intelligent do you have to be graduate with a political science or Enviornmental science degree.

Too bad for you that is precisely what was meant. "Don't go looking for a translation you evil man!"

Well, they've made their decisions already.

You made the statement that these players were not college material not that they were not currently college ready. I don't know whether Beasley is college material or not. I just know that he makes dumb mistakes at times.

He isn't college material, he isn't very intelligent, and he probably wouldn't have gone at all if he were 5'6"

[Kembastockton]

But what you say is so boring by comparison!

The truth is rarely awe inspiring young man.

I was referring specifically to NBA players (Michael Beasley's peers).

Maybe it is just because I have been a fan since Dr. J and the Ice man were housing folk, and I am overly positive in my opinion of nba players. I would like to believe that the average nba player is an intelligent young man who could be somewhere teaching history, or prosecuting alleged criminals had he chosen that path.

Too bad for you that is precisely what was meant. "Don't go looking for a translation you evil man!"

Who told you what was in my trunk?

He isn't college material, he isn't very intelligent, and he probably wouldn't have gone at all if he were 5'6"

No arguments here.

Hey wait a minute! Weren't you advocating trading for this rocket scientist a week ago?

[Snidely FC]

instead of beasley i'd like to see us take a chance on earl clark. 6'10 could shoot 3s in college. 14th pick in '09 draft as a ufa. this is the kind of guy rebuilding teams pick up.

[captaincrunk]

instead of beasley i'd like to see us take a chance on earl clark. 6'10 could shoot 3s in college. 14th pick in '09 draft as a ufa. this is the kind of guy rebuilding teams pick up.

I don't know if he'll ever be a starter though. His floor however is a 7th man on a decent team, so he's not a bad pickup on the cheap at all!

[Kembastockton]

instead of beasley i'd like to see us take a chance on earl clark. 6'10 could shoot 3s in college. 14th pick in '09 draft as a ufa. this is the kind of guy rebuilding teams pick up.

I would like to see a couple of small signs like this as well. Young players who are not going to make enough difference to affect our pursuit of a star, but could develop into strong role players after we get our star.