Why is "everyone on waivers"?

Hummus · Post #1 » by **Hummus** » Sun Aug 7, 2011 9:14 pm

Wilnerness590 Mike Wilner
If they do, TB will pull him back. Everyone's on waivers this mo.
RT @yes2cortexiphan: Heard Farnsworth is on waivers. will TO pick him up?

Can somebody please clear up for me why "everyone is on waivers right now"? Even if their respective teams aren't trying to dump them and their salaries, and the team that claims them won't end up with them on their roster?

Randle McMurphy · Post #2 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Sun Aug 7, 2011 9:22 pm

So they have the ability to trade them in August if they want to.

number15 · Post #3 » by **number15** » Sun Aug 7, 2011 9:39 pm

is there a list of JAYS on the waiver wire?

or do we just guess

trwi7 · Post #4 » by **trwi7** » Sun Aug 7, 2011 9:48 pm

number15 wrote:is there a list of JAYS on the waiver wire?

or do we just guess

Pretty much everyone goes on waivers and there are four options.

1. A team claims the player and the team can just let the player go to the team that claimed him (Alex Rios as an example)

2. A team claims the player and you can work out a deal with the team that claimed him.

3. A team claims him and if they can't work out a deal, they can just take him off waivers and keep him.

4. A player clears waivers and can be kept or traded to any team.

Leolovinliberal · Post #5 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 2:07 am

trwi7 wrote:
number15 wrote:is there a list of JAYS on the waiver wire?

or do we just guess

Pretty much everyone goes on waivers and there are four options.

1. A team claims the player and the team can just let the player go to the team that claimed him (Alex Rios as an example)

2. A team claims the player and you can work out a deal with the team that claimed him.

3. A team claims him and if they can't work out a deal, they can just take him off waivers and keep him.

4. A player clears waivers and can be kept or traded to any team.

How long is waivers? In other words, when a player goes on waivers, how long is it, 24 hours, a week, 2 weeks?

Weems · Post #6 » by **Weems** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 3:01 am

Sonrise wrote:How long is waivers? In other words, when a player goes on waivers, how long is it, 24 hours, a week, 2 weeks?

I'm reading up on it cause I have nfi how waivers work; it says 47 hours.

I might be even more confused after attempting to read up on this stuff than I was before.

BigLeagueChew · Post #7 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 3:26 am

This trade deadline is the most complicated of any sport.

Parataxis · Post #8 » by **Parataxis** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 3:40 am

So when is the actual, 'no playoffs' trade deadline?

sonn · Post #9 » by **sonn** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 3:49 am

Parataxis wrote:So when is the actual, 'no playoffs' trade deadline?

Any player traded after August 31 can't play in the playoffs.

Leolovinliberal · Post #10 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 5:50 am

There's a WT headline that Yankees and Red Sox are blocking waivers; what exactly does that mean? If they put in a claim, can't the other team kae a trade with either of them?

BigLeagueChew · Post #11 » by **BigLeagueChew** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 6:10 am

The player is still protected by the original team, so if another team claims him it can be blocked by the original team and basically nothing happens. There are 3 or 4 different situations that can happen if a player is "claimed" as mentioned above ^.So yes they can trade the player but most of the time nothing happens.

The part that contuses me and others the most, is that if the team have no intentions on trading the player why did they put him on waivers in the first place?

DonYon · Post #12 » by **DonYon** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 6:27 am

BigLeagueChew wrote:The part that contuses me and others the most, is that if the team have no intentions on trading the player why did they put him on waivers in the first place?

I'm wondering the same thing. Is it considered 'blocking' if they aren't put on waivers in the first place?

brwnman · Post #13 » by **brwnman** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 6:59 am

Warning from the surgeon general: Trying to make sense of baseball's waiver system can be hazardous to your mental health.

There are all kinds of waivers for all different occasions. But essentially, here is how waiver deals can be made between Aug. 1 and the Aug. 31 deadline for setting potential playoff rosters:

Virtually every player in the major leagues will be placed on waivers this month, whether a team intends to trade that player or not. If nothing else, the sheer volume of names can at least disguise players whom clubs do want to sneak through so they can be dealt.

If a player isn't claimed by any team in either league, he can be traded until the end of the month to anyone.

If a player is claimed, but only by one team, the player can be traded only to the team that claims him.

If a player is claimed by more than one team, the club with the worst record in that player's league gets priority -- and the player can be traded only to that team.

If a player is claimed only by teams in the other league, the club with the worst record in the other league gets priority -- and the player can be traded just to that team.

If a deal can't be worked out or the team doesn't want to trade that player, he can be pulled back off waivers once in August. If he is placed on waivers again before September, he can't be recalled a second time.

Or, if a team is just hoping to dump a player's salary, it can simply allow a team which claimed that player to have him for a small waiver fee. If that happens, the team that gets the player has to pay his entire salary. That's how the Yankees were stuck with Jose Canseco and the Padres were stuck with Randy Myers in recent years: They claimed those players, thinking they were just blocking other teams from getting them. Instead, their old clubs said: "You claimed him. You got him."

In the past, many teams claimed players just to keep them from being traded to contenders with a better record. This year, that isn't expected to happen as often, because most teams can't afford to get stuck with a big contract if they're awarded a player they really didn't want.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/s ... id=1860265

The article is from '04, but rules still apply.

sonn · Post #14 » by **sonn** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 3:33 pm

DonYon wrote:
BigLeagueChew wrote:The part that contuses me and others the most, is that if the team have no intentions on trading the player why did they put him on waivers in the first place?

I'm wondering the same thing. Is it considered 'blocking' if they aren't put on waivers in the first place?

Mostly to see if there is a market for the player. They could always choose to trade that player in the off season without any restrictions.

It can't be blocking until the player is put on waivers.

Wally West · Post #15 » by **Wally West** » Mon Aug 8, 2011 8:55 pm

Hummus wrote:
Wilnerness590 Mike Wilner
If they do, TB will pull him back. Everyone's on waivers this mo.
RT @yes2cortexiphan: Heard Farnsworth is on waivers. will TO pick him up?

I'd think that the Jays would be all over the players that register Type A an Type B free agents that are put on waivers. There were rumours also going on nearing the deadline that the Jays an the Rays were scouting each other farm systems so who knows.