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karolis1221 wrote:i really wanted to thx you for not drafting Jonas Valanciunas, because i remember how Big Z never played for our National Team i think Cavs made a bad influence for him. so thank you.
so they pick him because of his "rebounding" even tho he was absolutely horrible on the defensive end?B Mac wrote:nets4nets wrote:The guy is very raw Jonas is the much better player as of right now. I hated the pick for the Cavs it didn't make sense. But i guess they didn't want to wait for Jonas a true post player(tough to find).
I watched a lot of Jonas last year in the Euro league i think he will be special. The stats he put up were insane look at his per 36 just a hell of a ball player and body. The problem i have with the pick for the Cavs is will Tristan rebound? I mean Jonas is gonna be a great rebounding along with shot blocking and scoring. The other thing is if i can get a low post player you do it. It is nearly impossible to find a good post player now a days. Because all of them want to play on the outside ala Tristan. I am rooting for the guy but he is a major project IMO. Prove me wrong Tristan but he is very raw and needs work IMO JV will be a much better pro IMO.
Tristan's offense is non existent right now sounds like he has a good work ethic he will need it.
I have no doubts that you have watched Jonas play a little bit, because your description of him his pretty accurate. However, I have major doubts that you know much about Thompson based on how you described him.
One of two major reasons the Cavs drafted Thompson were his defense and his rebounding, but you are asking if he will rebound? Not sure where that came from.
Also, you state that Tristan just wants to play on the outside? Huh? That is completly made up. Thompson plays near the basket nearly 95% of the time.
If you are going to bash the guy please at least bash on things that are actual concerns. (ie. FT shooting, lack of a jumper, etc..)
mcfly1204 wrote:karolis1221 wrote:i really wanted to thx you for not drafting Jonas Valanciunas, because i remember how Big Z never played for our National Team i think Cavs made a bad influence for him. so thank you.
Ilgauskas did play for the national team. Z didn't play for the national team in '08 because the organization did not like him adding the extra mileage given his injury history. Look at the alternative, see: Yao, Ming.
B Mac wrote:If Cavs fans want to discuss Jonas then I have no problem with that (assuming its a civilized discussion). I have a problem with the countless number of Raptors fans who have been coming in here and trolling with their Jonas threads. The thread that got locked just the other day was all about how big of dumb***** the Cavs were for passing on Jonas and how we are a terribly run organization, blah blah blah. Does that really deserve to stay open?
Personally I dont know why any Cavs fan cares to talk about Jonas. What's done is done and Im going to put all of my support behind TT, but for those that want to talk about him, Im ok doing a Jonas thread to keep it all centralized.
karolis1221 wrote:mcfly1204 wrote:karolis1221 wrote:i really wanted to thx you for not drafting Jonas Valanciunas, because i remember how Big Z never played for our National Team i think Cavs made a bad influence for him. so thank you.
Ilgauskas did play for the national team. Z didn't play for the national team in '08 because the organization did not like him adding the extra mileage given his injury history. Look at the alternative, see: Yao, Ming.
When did he played? in 1994? i seen most of the championships and he wasnt there, in 2000,2004,2008 olympics we was praying him to come and play and help us win gold but he didnt, it was same story every year.
Tristan Thompson is a athletically gifted 20 year old (and physical freak – 6’8″ with a 7’2″ wingspan) who didn’t have the most consistant freshman season that we have seen, but he did show tremendous flashes of potential this year. Still, it was a surprise that the Cleveland Cavaliers took Thompson with the fourth overall pick with Jonas Valanciunas still on the board.
chickenmcnugget wrote:for all you people afraid that jonas wasn't going to sign.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... in-2012-13
he signed already....
might miss 1 year, but if the lock out happens.......
starts playing right away.
tidho wrote:Hopefully his signing was not part of our decision at all. At the time of the draft everyone knew it would only be a one year absense, and its a throw away year.
Hopefully they're telling the truth and they simply had Thompson rated higher. We really aren't going to make an educated conclusion for a couple years.
