Center question

[HotrodBeaubois]

If you are unable to re-sign Dalembert and all the good free-agent centers re-signed with their teams . Would you do this?

Haywood for 2012 1st Rd pick and trade exception?

[jumpboi92]

I'd rather give $10mil a year to Tyson Chandler

[LavinMagoof]

this guy?

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probably. Brendan Haywood destroyed us on national television last year. I don't know what our pick situation is, tho, cause technically we traded it to Cleveland for J.J Hickson.

[KF10]

I don't think we can trade our future 1st round pick due to the Casspi trade. Technically, it's the property of the Cavs (if it's outside of lotto-range).

I used to like Haywood but not so much anymore. No to this trade.

[HotrodBeaubois]

I'd rather give $10mil a year to Tyson Chandler

Like I said all the good free-agents would be signed by their teams. Chandler will be re-signed by Dallas.

[HotrodBeaubois]

I'd rather give $10mil a year to Tyson Chandler

I really doubt you can sign Chandler for $10 million. If you were Chandler if Dallas and Sacramento both offered you $10 mill . Who would you sign with, Sacramento who went 24-58 or stay in Dallas and defend your Title?

[SacKingZZZ]

I am so totally not down with Haywood. Also the Kings already gave up a pick in the Hickson deal. It was pretty clear come playoff time that Haywood was having significant problems keeping up with the fast paced and more athletic teams. He was like a sloth trying to play help defense.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'd rather give $10mil a year to Tyson Chandler

Like I said all the good free-agents would be signed by their teams. Chandler will be re-signed by Dallas.

Saw a blurb on hoopshype or somewhere else from a reporters twitter saying Tyson said the Mavs and he were waaaay far apart on his contract. So much so that he basically said it was a waste of time meeting before the lockout.

[HotrodBeaubois]

I'd rather give $10mil a year to Tyson Chandler

Like I said all the good free-agents would be signed by their teams. Chandler will be re-signed by Dallas.

Saw a blurb on hoopshype or somewhere else from a reporters twitter saying Tyson said the Mavs and he were waaaay far apart on his contract. So much so that he basically said it was a waste of time meeting before the lockout.

Yea because he probably wants like$14 mill and the Mavs probably offered like $10,000,000. But ultimately I believe after the CBA is sorted out I think Cuban and Tyson will meet in the middle and Tyson will be a Mav.

[PaKwAn]

no thanks on haywood... i would rather have a 3 man rotation of cuz jj and jt and have some minutes for whiteside,than give a pick and pay alot for haywood....

[The Beam King]

Brendan Haywood is owed roughly 34 million guaranteed dollars over the next 4 years. He's 32 years old this season and will be 36 years old starting the final season of his contract that will owe him just a smidge under 10 million dollars.

Brendan Haywood has CAREER averages of 7.4 PPG and 6.2 RPG in 23.9 Minutes of action.

Those scream BACK-UP numbers anyway you slice it and you're paying him more than the bulk of the starting centers in this league at that price tag and you ask the Kings to give away a first round draft pick for that? Seriously?

There's a better chance that Chandler signs at 10 million a year than there is the Kings(even if they could) offering a 1st round pick for the honor of absorbing Haywoods bloated salary onto their payroll.

If anything the Mavericks would have to severely sweeten the deal by offering the Kings something of cheap value(i.e. Beubois or a 1st round pick, etc) while absorbing a contract of the ilk of say Francisco Garcia just to get the conversation started.

Haywood is near dead weight and the only way you move his contract is by either a) offering the incentive as mentioned above or taking on an equally bad contract from someone else.

No one in their right mind is going to take on an aging center(who tend to break down sooner than guards in the NBA due to the extra size and weight that adds up to all the pounding on their knees) while giving you anything of much value.

Get real.

[pillwenney]

Yeah I certainly wouldn't give up first for him, but he does have value that goes well beyond his numbers. He's a very nice defender both with post D and protecting the rim. He'd replace a lot of what Sam brought in that sense, although his offense does suck pretty hard.

[HotrodBeaubois]

@ Boogie-Monster

Haywood Career per 36 minutes
11.15 Pts per 36 min for Career
9.34 Rebs per 36 min for Career


Dalambert Career per 36 minutes
11.17 Pts per 36 min for career
11.45 Rebs per 36 min for career

[pillwenney]

We clearly saw this year that Sam is much more capable offensively than Haywood is. He just hadn't been used offensively before this year. They're about the same with D I'd say, although as those numbers point out, Sam is a significantly better rebounder. Over 2 more rebounds per 36 is nothing to scoff at.

[SacKingZZZ]

And Sam can actually move around like a person not wearing cement shoes. Haywood looked plain SLOW in the playoffs this year.

[NashtyNas]

Brendan Haywood is owed roughly 34 million guaranteed dollars over the next 4 years. He's 32 years old this season and will be 36 years old starting the final season of his contract that will owe him just a smidge under 10 million dollars.

Brendan Haywood has CAREER averages of 7.4 PPG and 6.2 RPG in 23.9 Minutes of action.

Those scream BACK-UP numbers anyway you slice it and you're paying him more than the bulk of the starting centers in this league at that price tag and you ask the Kings to give away a first round draft pick for that? Seriously?

There's a better chance that Chandler signs at 10 million a year than there is the Kings(even if they could) offering a 1st round pick for the honor of absorbing Haywoods bloated salary onto their payroll.

If anything the Mavericks would have to severely sweeten the deal by offering the Kings something of cheap value(i.e. Beubois or a 1st round pick, etc) while absorbing a contract of the ilk of say Francisco Garcia just to get the conversation started.

Haywood is near dead weight and the only way you move his contract is by either a) offering the incentive as mentioned above or taking on an equally bad contract from someone else.

No one in their right mind is going to take on an aging center(who tend to break down sooner than guards in the NBA due to the extra size and weight that adds up to all the pounding on their knees) while giving you anything of much value.

Get real.

This is not remotely true. Center's are at a rarity, and one as good a man defender as Haywood who can rebound at a great rate are always wanted. Teams like Miami and NY looking for a long term center (if they fail to get someone like Dalembert, Pryzbilla) would give you picks and expirings for him without thinking twice. NY would give a TPE and a first (if they can find one) for him with ease. They would probably make a Haywood/Turiaf swap if Dallas gave them something of minor value, actually.

You don't necessarily have to be a great pick and roll/help defender to be a good defensive center. Man-to-man defenders (something Haywood is VERY good at) are also a big need to keep the guys like Howard, Duncan, Bogut, Horford from shooting an extremely high %.