Transfer Thread 2.0! New and improved

Post #901 » by **5DOM** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:04 pm

The thing I hate is the players wanting to get out of the contract that they signed. Can never blame the clubs for wanting to keep their players. Same thing with the Modric situation.

ZaQ- · Post #902 » by **ZaQ-** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:23 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:You were also a Lehmann red card away from winning the champions league not so long ago but how has it worked out since then?

I don't feel that way. That CL final wasn't decided by the red. The game was just starting.

If Bendtner scores that chance I was referring to--which any competent striker does 95% of the time--Barca has what, 3 minutes to get one back? The aggregate was virtually won/lost directly on that play.

Regardless, the squad was good enough, and Fabregas and Nasri have to shoulder some blame for the lack of success, which they aren't.

KG1585 · Post #903 » by **KG1585** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:36 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Cesc has been in the Arsenal first team for 7 years and to be fair he has no assurance that Wenger's policy will change anytime soon and he has been watching teams like City and Chelsea rise up from mediocrity while his team has pretty much gone the opposite direction.

He's pretty much been the jewish kid at christmas for a long time and this isn't the first time Wenger's kids have left the for better teams although some haven't done as well since then.

Actually Cesc is teh first kid to leave. Other players that have left have left becuase they were past their primes or have their career go down the toilet. (Helb anyone?)

Post #904 » by **Slava** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:52 pm

How many seasons did Henry play at Arsenal and how many seasons did Cesc play? It should be the same and Henry atleast won premier league.

IronChef · Post #905 » by **IronChef** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:37 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:How many seasons did Henry play at Arsenal and how many seasons did Cesc play? It should be the same and Henry atleast won premier league.

Henry was 29, 30 when he left and on the clear downturn of his career though,

IronChef · Post #906 » by **IronChef** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:44 pm

ZaQ- wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:You were also a Lehmann red card away from winning the champions league not so long ago but how has it worked out since then?

I don't feel that way. That CL final wasn't decided by the red. The game was just starting.

If Bendtner scores that chance I was referring to--which any competent striker does 95% of the time--Barca has what, 3 minutes to get one back? The aggregate was virtually won/lost directly on that play.

Regardless, the squad was good enough, and Fabregas and Nasri have to shoulder some blame for the lack of success, which they aren't.

It was decided by the red, definitely. Arsenal was up 1-0 at the time Lehmann was red carded. But that was a totally different team, before the transition to the younger squad.

Nasri and fabregas definitely shoulder some of the blame for the collapse last season. Nasri was balls the last couple months, Cesc was nowhere near his normal form, and helped back heel us out of the champions league.

IronChef · Post #907 » by **IronChef** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:48 pm

Lol at Nasri being upset about the away fans song about him. It's just funny

USA · Post #908 » by **USA** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:45 pm

Robbie Keane to the Galaxy. Didn't see that one coming.

Massimo · Post #909 » by **Massimo** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:19 pm

Eboue to Galatasaray.
official

Post #910 » by **5DOM** » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:53 pm

What I am going to remember him for

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiWtoydTYN0&feature=related[/youtube]

Post #911 » by **bryant08** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:14 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5mj0Huxajk[/youtube]

IronChef · Post #912 » by **IronChef** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:41 am

My favourite Eboue memory was when we played Wigan, he repeatedly passed the ball to the other team, and then proceeded to tackle Kolo Toure. He was then subbed off after about 10 minutes of play to one of the loudest choruses of boos I've ever heard.

That and when he dressed up like a tiger.

IronChef · Post #913 » by **IronChef** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:43 am

Reports linking Arsenal to Moussa Sow on Talksport and the Mirror. He's a perfect striker for us. Yes, please.

Post #914 » by **5DOM** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:50 am

Talksport AND the Mirror. Good luck

Don Draper · Post #915 » by **Don Draper** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:11 am

5DOM wrote:What I am going to remember him for

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiWtoydTYN0&feature=related[/youtube]

Will never forget this game. It's almost as if you knew Eboue was going to do something dumb. I think he committed the foul that led to the free kick and I think it was on Lucas too lol. What an epic dive by Lucas.

treiz · Post #916 » by **treiz** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:46 am

ZaQ- wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:You were also a Lehmann red card away from winning the champions league not so long ago but how has it worked out since then?

I don't feel that way. That CL final wasn't decided by the red. The game was just starting.

If Bendtner scores that chance I was referring to--which any competent striker does 95% of the time--Barca has what, 3 minutes to get one back? The aggregate was virtually won/lost directly on that play.

Regardless, the squad was good enough, and Fabregas and Nasri have to shoulder some blame for the lack of success, which they aren't.

Exactly, 80 minutes and down to 10 men definitely changed the game, and if you see both the goals that Barcelona scored that game they were definitely preventable, as they were both tight angled and in the near post, I still believe that if Lehmann was there those definitely would've been saved.

treiz · Post #917 » by **treiz** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:50 am

IronChef wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:How many seasons did Henry play at Arsenal and how many seasons did Cesc play? It should be the same and Henry atleast won premier league.

Henry was 29, 30 when he left and on the clear downturn of his career though,

He wasn't on the downturn of his career, he just didn't have a good enough team around him, Cesc by himself wasn't enough.

The season before his last he scored 30+ goals for you guys and in his last season he scored 10 goals in 17 due to injuries. He left because he knew you Wenger wanted to go younger with his squad especially with Adebayor having a great season that year as well as David Dein leaving. 29/30 years old is not the downside of somebodies career. He even scored 25+ goals in his first 2 seasons at Barcelona.

treiz · Post #918 » by **treiz** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:54 am

IronChef wrote:
ZaQ- wrote:
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:You were also a Lehmann red card away from winning the champions league not so long ago but how has it worked out since then?

I don't feel that way. That CL final wasn't decided by the red. The game was just starting.

If Bendtner scores that chance I was referring to--which any competent striker does 95% of the time--Barca has what, 3 minutes to get one back? The aggregate was virtually won/lost directly on that play.

Regardless, the squad was good enough, and Fabregas and Nasri have to shoulder some blame for the lack of success, which they aren't.

It was decided by the red, definitely. Arsenal was up 1-0 at the time Lehmann was red carded. But that was a totally different team, before the transition to the younger squad.

Nasri and fabregas definitely shoulder some of the blame for the collapse last season. Nasri was balls the last couple months, Cesc was nowhere near his normal form, and helped back heel us out of the champions league.

Lehmann was red carded first before Sol Campbell scored that goal

Post #919 » by **5DOM** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:07 am

In hindsight, Henry actually was on the downturn considering the drop off in number of goals scored and just overall impact.

IronChef · Post #920 » by **IronChef** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:23 am

He was definitely on the downside, imo. Still an effective player, no doubt, but certainly not his dominate self he was before that.

I was mistaken about the timing of the goal in CL Final, but it was definitely a factor in that final. Especially since it was Pires who was taken off to make way for Almunia, iirc.