Mills out, Carreno promoted to Jays

dagger · Post #1 » by **dagger** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:24 am

gregorMLB Gregor Chisholm
Carreno will pitch out of the bullpen. #BlueJays
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gregorMLB Gregor Chisholm
#BlueJays switch it up... Brad Mills to Triple-A. Luis Perez to start Sunday. Joel Carreno to be promoted on Friday.
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NH pitching coach Pete Walker calls Carreno's slider
exceptional: “When you have a pitch like that that’s a major-league out pitch ...

(cont) your chances of competing at the big-league level and having success are pretty good.”
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Post #2 » by **Schad** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:26 am

Nice. Would have liked to see Carreno get a couple starts, but I'll take what I can get there.

Lateral Quicks · Post #3 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:28 am

Wow. Very exciting. Interesting that Perez starts instead of Carreno. Maybe, after all, they do see Carreno as closer material.

JoeyBats · Post #4 » by **JoeyBats** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 am

Looks like AA reads RealGm now.

Trilogy · Post #5 » by **Trilogy** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:38 am

I had a feeling that the Jays would push Carreno to the pen.

Perez will probably keep that spot warm until McGowan/Drabek are ready to come up.

Post #6 » by **Schad** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:46 am

Wonder whether it's also a way to allow Carreno to keep his innings relatively low; he took a big, scary jump in IP last year (47 above his career high, and 58 above his previous season), so they might be hesitant to run him up to 160 or thereabouts, especially as his pitch count has escalated.

Weems · Post #7 » by **Weems** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:48 am

I can't say that I hate him going straight to the bullpen, I'm just excited to see him up.

There There · Post #8 » by **There There** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:55 am

Schadenfreude wrote:Wonder whether it's also a way to allow Carreno to keep his innings relatively low; he took a big, scary jump in IP last year (47 above his career high, and 58 above his previous season), so they might be hesitant to run him up to 160 or thereabouts, especially as his pitch count has escalated.

I think it was 47 up from the previous season, as 2009 he had 79 in low A and 11 in short season, but I agree, this would seem to be a more logical reason for throwing him in the pen at this point.

Maybe ultimately they view him as being better suited in a pen role, but I'm sure he'd still get at least a look next spring at a rotation spot

evilRyu · Post #9 » by **evilRyu** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:58 am

Lateral Quicks wrote:Wow. Very exciting. Interesting that Perez starts instead of Carreno. Maybe, after all, they do see Carreno as closer material.

i think they should be giving Perez a shot to start.. he has always been a starter throughout the minors, and deserves a shot.

andyo · Post #10 » by **andyo** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:59 am

Thank god

Watching Mills pitch was painful.

Post #11 » by **Schad** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:01 am

evilRyu wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:Wow. Very exciting. Interesting that Perez starts instead of Carreno. Maybe, after all, they do see Carreno as closer material.

i think they should be giving Perez a shot to start.. he has always been a starter throughout the minors, and deserves a shot.

Disagree...Perez was never a particularly good starter, but showed that he could be fairly capable out of the 'pen.

baulderdash77 · Post #12 » by **baulderdash77** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:19 am

Carreno has better stuff to be a starter than Perez. He's been much more effective during his MiLB career so far.

I'm just excited to see all these young guy in the lineup.

That said, I expect to see Perez and Carreno both in the bullpen after September and I expect to see Drabek get 5 or 6 starts in the month as they give him another shot.

evilRyu · Post #13 » by **evilRyu** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:21 am

Schadenfreude wrote:
evilRyu wrote:
Lateral Quicks wrote:Wow. Very exciting. Interesting that Perez starts instead of Carreno. Maybe, after all, they do see Carreno as closer material.

i think they should be giving Perez a shot to start.. he has always been a starter throughout the minors, and deserves a shot.

Disagree...Perez was never a particularly good starter, but showed that he could be fairly capable out of the 'pen.

I think he should be given a shot to start. Let him fail as a starter first, and see what you got and go from there. However, my comment was more in response to having him start over Carreno.

TR50 · Post #14 » by **TR50** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:31 am

I wonder how the Jays project him long term...

It's pretty crazy at all the great arms we seem to have!

torontoaces04 · Post #15 » by **torontoaces04** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:55 am

Ahhhheeemmmm!!! WHO CALLED IT!

All kidding aside, I'm super happy about this call-up. Whoever posted about the slider or "slurve".... it is FILTHY! Can't wait to see him buckle a couple of big-leaguers.

Michael Bradley · Post #16 » by **Michael Bradley** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:49 am

I'd like to see Carreno start as well, but the Jays could use a lights out closer as well. Hopefully they pitch him in long relief until the end of the season so he still gets some innings in. Then put him in the mix for the rotation next year or if he misses out on that put him in the pen.

damadmonk · Post #17 » by **damadmonk** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:43 am

Haven't heard much of this guy other than what Walker talked about with his slider...

Did some research...

http://jaysjournal.com/2011/01/28/top-5 ... l-carreno/
http://jaysprospects.com/2011/03/16/pro ... l-carreno/

TheMainEvent · Post #18 » by **TheMainEvent** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:46 pm

Ah, I heard yesterday that Joel Carreno was getting called up, but had no idea that Perez would be starting. I like that Carenno is going to the bullpen for now, but I'm not too fond of Perez starting either. I think he's been playing very well in relief and would like to see him stay there. Oh well.

Relentless88 · Post #19 » by **Relentless88** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:48 pm

TheMainEvent wrote:Ah, I heard yesterday that Joel Carreno was getting called up, but had no idea that Perez would be starting. I like that Carenno is going to the bullpen for now, but I'm not too fond of Perez starting either. I think he's been playing very well in relief and would like to see him stay there. Oh well.

Agreed, but I'm sure it's just temporary until McGowan or Drabek are ready. I think Carreno is best suited in the pen anyway.