Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed)

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Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#1 » by HMFFL » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:41 am

Michael Vick and the Eagles have agreed to a six-year contract worth $100 million with $40 million guaranteed.

Vick was due to earn slightly more than $16 million this season after the Eagles designated him the franchise player in February.
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#2 » by Da Schwab » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:53 am

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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#3 » by Aventador » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:51 am

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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#4 » by Icness » Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:16 pm

In two years they are going to seriously regret this. Heck, it could be sooner than that.
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#5 » by TSE » Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:01 pm

It's the owner's decision in the end, and no matter what happens he will be able to live with himself and not really care how it affects everybody else and what they think. Forget about what the city of Philadelphia thinks and feels if it doesn't work out, this game is about being a rich man that gets to have fun doing things with his vision. Everything else beyond that is a warped perspective of this sad reality. Thus, the Eagles are fine and until something bad happens, if it does, they have a sensational player, whoopee! LOL NFL

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Post#6 » by TSE » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:04 pm

Also as an advanced head's up I think the Titans are going to make a major deal that they will regret in a couple years with Chris Johnson's contract. I think he is much more likely to get hurt than Vick, and to me it's a no-brainer to trade him, to sink that much money into a RB is not a good idea unless you are getting provisions for in case he gets hurt. That's going to be my pick for a megadeal that looks bad in hindsight.

Plus, I don't think the Titans are in SB ready mode as much as the Eagles, so now's the time to strategically dump him for a haul instead of wasting that mega money for massive depreciation that doesn't convert into playoff potential value.
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#7 » by Pharmcat » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:43 pm

this is a horrible deal for PHI

but for vick, hes back on top, congrats
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#8 » by HMFFL » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:51 pm

TSE wrote:Also as an advanced head's up I think the Titans are going to make a major deal that they will regret in a couple years with Chris Johnson's contract. I think he is much more likely to get hurt than Vick, and to me it's a no-brainer to trade him, to sink that much money into a RB is not a good idea unless you are getting provisions for in case he gets hurt. That's going to be my pick for a megadeal that looks bad in hindsight.

Plus, I don't think the Titans are in SB ready mode as much as the Eagles, so now's the time to strategically dump him for a haul instead of wasting that mega money for massive depreciation that doesn't convert into playoff potential value.


Tennessee is normally around 13th-15th in attendance in the league. It's safe to assume if Chris Johnson is traded the attendance is going to take a hit. I doubt many Tennessee fans expect to make the playoffs, but having Chris Johnson on the team probably makes them more content with losing, so we'll see what his new extension ends up being worth.
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Post#9 » by TSE » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:00 pm

Attendance shmendance. The fans show up when the team wins and shows they have the capacity to dominate in the future. Chris Johnson can be traded now for more than what he's worth to the TEN franchise, and thus the fans will come out in droves moreso than they do now. They will have more good players to like and more games that they win as a result of this brilliant trade.
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Post#10 » by TSE » Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:24 pm

Apparently the reports of the contract details were misleading. It's really a 5 year $80M deal with $35.5M guaranteed. The 6th year voids if he plays 35% of the snaps in any of the first 5 years, which means it's almost impossible for him to be under that percentage each and every year and not get cut as a result. The $100M is just fluff for fun to stroke Vick's ego in the newspapers. He just went from mega rich to now starving and having to live off ramen noodles, poor guy. I'm getting all of this from the internet, not reporting it, so don't hold me to it if this report is also inaccurate.
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#11 » by HMFFL » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:11 am

TSE wrote:Attendance shmendance. The fans show up when the team wins and shows they have the capacity to dominate in the future. Chris Johnson can be traded now for more than what he's worth to the TEN franchise, and thus the fans will come out in droves moreso than they do now. They will have more good players to like and more games that they win as a result of this brilliant trade.


The attendance will stay between 13th & 15th if they keep Chris Johnson and miss the playoffs. Bud Adams is probably content with that ranking as long as it stays. It's all about business and Bud Adams is making money as long as the attendance numbers stay the same, but if he trades Chris Johnson, it's safe to assume the numbers will decrease over the next couple seasons, and Mr. Adams won't profit as much.
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Post#12 » by TSE » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:54 am

Well I disagree. I think he can win more games over the next couple of seasons, otherwise I wouldn't suggest the trade. Chris Johnson is a great player, but he's one of the more overrated players in the game, and you seem to be overvaluing him as well and what his contributions are worth.
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Post#13 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:09 am

I would honestly love to see the contract, what does he have to do for that extra 60 million?
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#14 » by HMFFL » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:50 am

TSE wrote:Well I disagree. I think he can win more games over the next couple of seasons, otherwise I wouldn't suggest the trade. Chris Johnson is a great player, but he's one of the more overrated players in the game, and you seem to be overvaluing him as well and what his contributions are worth.


How am I overvaluing him? I'm simply looking at it from a business perspective and you're looking at it from a fans perspective. It's not good business for Bud Adams to trade Chris Johnson. It's not like the team is a sure thing over the next three seasons and Chris Johnson will help keep the attendance numbers consistent. As long as Chris Johnson produces, which he will, Bud Adams should have no problem trading him two years from now. Adrian Peterson will end up signing a similar contract extension, so should Minnesota trade him right now? It's a bigger risk for Minnesota to sign Adrian Peterson since they have bad attendance numbers.
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Post#15 » by TSE » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:11 am

I'm not looking at it from a fan's perspective, that's what you were doing. It's the average fan that falls in love with the glitz, and that contributes to why he's one of the more overrated players in the league. I'm looking at it from a business AND strategy perspective, in that my way makes a LOT more money by conserving it for VALUE players not overpaid players, and that allows the team to get more quality players per dollar and thus more wins, and thus more success plus profits.

Trading him 2 years is no good, he has MUCH less value then. And if he doesn't win the SB in those next 2 years, then that trade value lost comes off the top of his optimum path from the business and strategy perspective, meaning he will lose profits and wins overall in the long-run.

Barry Sanders was the greatest RB of all-time, and DET cashed him in for 0 SBs. What if we could go back in time and trade him for a couple first rounders specifically in the 2012 and 2013 drafts? That seems like it would be worth more today than what we ACTUALLY received. That's because he was like a new corvette, that we used up and depreciated away in value, with nowhere to go to generate an ROI off of having that toy.

MIN is a different story too, as that's a different team with 53 player dynamics different than the Titans, one case at a time! lol
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#16 » by HMFFL » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:31 pm

Michael Vick’s new contract will benefit Falcons’ pockets

So if I read this correctly, Michael Vick just helped Arthur Blank move $7.5 million closer to getting a new stadium.

Vick’s new reported six-year, $100 million contract with the Philadelphia Eagles means he should be able to clear all of the creditors listed in his original bankruptcy, which totaled about $20 million.

Not surprisingly, the biggest creditor was the Falcons. They are owed $7.5 million from his signing bonus after he defaulted on his contract. Something about dog fighting and prison. It’s all a blur now.

Our D. Orlando Ledbetter reported back in April of 2009 that Vick and the Falcons had reached a settlement on the salary cap refund, so that part of the story is not news. But this could be: Via ProFootballTalk.com, the Falcons will seek and could receive salary cap credits, which would come as Vick returns the money.

Greg Aiello, the NFL’s vice president of public relations, told Pro Football Talk via email “that such matters are reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and that the question of whether the Falcons will receive cap credits is currently under review,” according to the website.

Theoretically, getting salary cap credits could give the Falcons’ a competitive advantage over other teams, albeit slight. At the very least, Blank can stash the $7.5 million in his building fund. http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/ ... -contract/
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#17 » by Jeff23 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:37 pm

I would have rather kept Kolb than throw Vick this insane amount of money if i was the Eagles.
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Post#18 » by TSE » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:23 pm

So Chris Johnson now believes that any Titan fan that thinks he is being too greedy doesn't count as "real fans". That's an intangible but to me sounds like more evidence exists that the fans won't love him as much as I thought previously now that a portion of them that feel this way on the financial end of things just got slapped in the face via his "STFU" twitter response. To me that escalates the bonus of trading him in hindsight from yesterday, however, the new team now sees potentially a guy that's a slightly bigger ass, perhaps his trade value will take a miniscule hit from just the other day when I wanted to trade him before his stock price just went down a few pennies. Now they will get slightly less for wasting time, and next week, next month, next year, it will continue to become more and more obvious. I was ready to trade him at the trade deadline last year, so the trade value lost for that time period being missed out on a small contract price to a contender also is out the window. How much longer will the Titans keep shedding away the value of their best exit strategy for this player?
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#19 » by High 5 » Thu Sep 1, 2011 6:50 am

That's a tremendous contract for a 31-year-old who finishes every season injured and has accuracy (and judgement) issues.
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Re: Michael Vick signs 6yrs, $100 million ($40 guaranteed) 

Post#20 » by Ong_dynasty » Thu Sep 1, 2011 12:55 pm

Jeff23 wrote:I would have rather kept Kolb than throw Vick this insane amount of money if i was the Eagles.


So you would rather give an unknown commodity 6 year 65?

BTW, If I am correct the contract is more 5 year 80 (not that it matters that much).

I do agree, that it seems overpriced. But I always say one thing about Andy Reid, question his playcalling, his diet or whatever. But I can never question his QB decisions. So I will give them the benefit of the doubt.

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