Retro Draft: Winner is Stun704

[-Ian-]

Where can I see that top 30 players? Haha.

[Paydro70]

I'm the last one to take a center. Some of you have two. But I'm thinking that between these two guys, I can hold up, especially since we're going by peak:
YAO MING - Olympian


And ROBERT PARISH - Iron Man

ROOKIE CARD!!!!

[-Ian-]

Two 7-footers! Nice picks.

[captaincrunk]

Hmm... Yao is interesting. I don't know how well he really stacks up with guys like Wilt and them. I know Shaq has said some nice things about him though.

[Diop]

I forgot about Yao.

I was wondering when Pettit was going to be picked up. Wasn't he the poster boy for racist Americans back then?

[BigSlam]

In other news, I have 5 top 30 players according to RGM voting. BOOYA

Considering it was RGM voting I assume that Raptors players made up 20+ of the 30 players?

[SWedd523]

I dunno. When I can't decide who I want to pick, I type in X vs Y in Google and see what was said about them in the past. It sent to me to the PC board and I clicked on the list. It's pretty close to what Simmons has so I assume it's some pretty level headed guys.

I really like the Parish pick. The value may be a bit early, but you filled out the rest of that starting unit nicely to it's fine by me. You pretty much did what I did with PG, just at a different spot.


EDIT: My pick is on it's way

[SWedd523]

In his eight years as a starter in Cleveland, my next pick averaged 18 points and 8 assists. That sounds fine and all until you learn that he shot 48% from the field, 41% from deep, and. 91% from the charity stripe. Talk about efficiency!

The baby faced assassin had one of the most beautiful jumpers the game has ever seen, was smooth with the ball in his hands, and could kill you from anywhere on the floor. A guy you wouldn't respect at the gym..... until he dropped 6 consecutive threes on your face.

An esteemed member of the 50-40-90 club when this fool shot 53%, 44%, and 90% in 1988-89.
All-Time leader in FT%
4 time All-Star
1x First Team All-NBA
3x Third Team All-NBA


Mark Price




PG: Mark Price
SG: Rick Barry
SF: Scottie Pippen
PF: Patrick Ewing/Bob Pettit
CE: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar


outside shooting? check
mid range? check
12-15 feet? check
post scoring? check
crunch time FTs? check and check


And with the rest of my guys being fantastic defenders, Price will easily be covered on that end of the floor. I'll put him in the Relative Category

[fatlever]

mark price getting some love. awesome.

[LamarMatic7]

mark price getting some love. awesome.

Don't give him too much love though or he'll get injured.

[captaincrunk]

Mark Price is like the Mark Price of basketball.

[LamarMatic7]

Mark Price is like the Mark Price of basketball.

Exactly!!!

[LamarMatic7]

Wait... what?

[captaincrunk]

Lol. Mark price is alright. A role player on a squad in this league, but I think you need role players, even in the starting lineup. A team full of LeBrons would suck.

[Paydro70]

I think a team full of LeBrons would be fine except at center.

[SWedd523]

Lol. Mark price is alright. A role player on a squad in this league, but I think you need role players, even in the starting lineup. A team full of LeBrons would suck.

"Alright"?


Sustaining 18 and 8 over eight years is nothing to sneeze at. Nor is being one of only five members in the 50-40-90 club.

Bob Cousy's best season was 20/9 while shooting 38% from the floor and 86% from the line.
Mark Price's best season was 20/9 while shooting 46% from the floor, 41% from three, and 89% from FT.

[captaincrunk]

I think a team full of LeBrons would be fine except at center.

I don't think they would do well. Guys who score 30 points a game need to get into rhythm. That's part of why they take so many shots or have the ball so much. I don't think the egos would work either. Think practically, not 2k11.

[captaincrunk]

Lol. Mark price is alright. A role player on a squad in this league, but I think you need role players, even in the starting lineup. A team full of LeBrons would suck.

"Alright"?


Sustaining 18 and 8 over eight years is nothing to sneeze at. Nor is being one of only five members in the 50-40-90 club.

Jose Calderon is also in the 50/40/90 club. Just saying.

Bob Cousy's best season was 20/9 while shooting 38% from the floor and 86% from the line.
Mark Price's best season was 20/9 while shooting 46% from the floor, 41% from three, and 89% from FT.

Mark price also played in a different era with very different rules and very different equipment. No one was shooting well back then.

Also, have you ever played on a really old basketball goal? The kind that isn't breakaway? Those stiff rims make it really hard to make shots consistently. You can't hit the rim hardly at all.

Bill Sharman says:

"Most of the basketball buildings and arenas were very old and run-down, which made it extremely difficult to play in. In Baltimore, we used to play in a roller-skating rink. In Syracuse, we played in an old building at the fairgrounds that had a leaky roof, a warped floor, and very little heat. They had very few basketball arenas as they do today and most of them had poor lighting, all kinds of different, inadequate floors, bad temperatures, et cetera. Many were used for hockey and we would play right over the ice with no insulation except the basketball floor itself. Suffice to say, with cold, stiff hands and fingers, it certainly didn't help the shooting touch and percentages.

"Also, the basketballs were not molded until the late fifties and were often lopsided and not even round, which made them more difficult to dribble and shoot with.

"Transportation was another problem and certainly a factor in the early years. Especially before they started using the jet airplanes. We often would leave on a lot of road trips by trains, cars, buses, et cetera, and travel all night just to get to the next game on time.

"Another thing is that with less running and team movement, the officials used to allow a lot more pushing, shoving, holding, hand-checking, et cetera. I believe that this is why they had so many fights in those early years."

And this too: Bill said, "They had the original baskets that were bolted right into the backboard, then later, they put in the break-away baskets and some days I hit the rim and some would fall in. I wish I had those rims when I was playing because I would hit all iron and it would bounce off."

And then "Now conceive of what it was like to take a lopsided ball on an uneven court with tight rims and use this constantly evolving shooting arsenal against major league defenses under game pressure and especially in the clutch. Than, and only then, can one realize that 37.5% was actually a rather fantastic shooting percentage under the circumstances."

Bob Cousy wasn't the greatest shooter of all time, but the percentages are not comparable from that era to the modern era. It just isn't fair.

And I doubt you'll find anyone who would take Mark Price over Cousy.

[SWedd523]

Jose Calderon is also in the 50/40/90 club. Just saying.

No he isn't. Just saying.

Mark price also played in a different era with very different rules and very different equipment. No one was shooting well back then.

EDIT: Cousy's first season was 1950-51. His last was 1969-70

I can name 71 players who shot better than Cousy's career 37.5% during that time period. And that's just guards!

Also, have you ever played on a really old basketball goal? The kind that isn't breakaway? Those stiff rims make it really hard to make shots consistently. You can't hit the rim hardly at all.

Why pick such an old player if you're going to make excuses for him?

And I doubt you'll find anyone who would take Mark Price over Cousy.

Peak for peak, it sure looks like Price is better.

I also took him with my 6th pick, 52nd overall. Way after you went after Cousy.

[captaincrunk]

Jose Calderon is also in the 50/40/90 club. Just saying.

No he isn't. Just saying.

Yeah he is. He had on season of 52 41 and like, 93 or so, and two more that were round ups to get it.

Mark price also played in a different era with very different rules and very different equipment. No one was shooting well back then.

Lol that's a terrible excuse.

Actually dude, it applies to literally everyone in the era. That's my point. You're being ignorant if you refuse to acknowledge that the game has changed drastically.

Also, have you ever played on a really old basketball goal? The kind that isn't breakaway? Those stiff rims make it really hard to make shots consistently. You can't hit the rim hardly at all.

Why pick such an old player if you're going to make excuses for him?

Because he's miles better than Mark Price.

I'd really like to see you go out there and shoot with a lumpy ball into a rigid rim leaping from a wobbly floor on top of an ice rink. Tell me how it feels brah. You give these guys modern equipment and you'd see the percentages shoot up.

And I doubt you'll find anyone who would take Mark Price over Cousy.

Peak for peak, it sure looks like Price is better.

Then Wilt Chamberlain is by far the greatest player that ever lived for his 61-62 season with over 50 points per game and over 25 rebounds per game.

You're trolling at this point.

I also took him with my 6th pick, 52nd overall. Way after you went after Cousy.

And if I hadn't taken Cousy, someone else would have well before the 52nd pick.