Retro Draft: Winner is Stun704

Post #341 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:11 am

there are some great sabonis videos on the net. i gots to dig them up.

Post #342 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:21 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06usV6451ik&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Meh3rl2i4vA&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube]

sabonis pre-injuries just looks insane. even as an old man on two horrible knees he was still pretty damn good, 16 and 10 in like 25 minutes back with the blazers. imagine what he would have done to the league if he came over in the mid 80s.

Post #343 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:25 am

sachmo is assembling the sickest passing team in the history of passing. can you have too much passing?

even unseld is considered the greatest outlet passer in the history of the league. walton and sabonis, maybe the two best passing centers of the past 30 years. then you have bird, the best passing forward ever. maravich, no doubt the flashiest passer of all time. payton might be the worst passer on the team.

Post #344 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:28 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVnJeKX5OeY[/youtube]

captaincrunk · Post #345 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:29 am

fatlever wrote:sachmo is assembling the sickest passing team in the history of passing. can you have too much passing?

even unseld is considered the greatest outlet passer in the history of the league. walton and sabonis, maybe the two best passing centers of the past 30 years. then you have bird, the best passing forward ever. maravich, no doubt the flashiest passer of all time. payton might be the worst passer on the team.

With that kind of passing you have to wonder if he's gonna surprise us and play one of those five off the bench to keep ball movement going at all times. Sachmo seems to have a knack for these things.

Post #346 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:29 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhnRtgBGMl4&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]

SWedd523 · Post #347 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:29 am

fatlever wrote:is price a better shooter than cousy? yeah, most likely. price was a better shooter than 99% of the players who have ever set foot on an NBA floor. there's no shame in being worse than price at shooting. however, i would think that cousy was a better ball handler and a better passer.

100% agree. By any standard, Price is a prolific shooter. Much better than even his contemporaries. Cousy, even in his era, was average at very best. I don't really see any evidence to suggest otherwise.

For me, it's as simple as not needing an exceptional distributor to have good ball movement. I have Scottie Pippen (all-time leader in assists by a Forward) and Rick Barry (11th all-time in assists by a forward) to help with the distribution. Though, 8 assists per game over an 8 year prime is certainly fine if you ask me, Chris Paul has averaged 9 assists over his career.

For my team, I needed a floor stretcher who also happened to be a PG. It just so happens I got the best shooting PG in the history of the game not named Steve Nash (and Nash is ineligible).

hug it out and move on to the next fight.

Don't worry, I've already begun ignoring him.

Post #348 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:29 am

fatlever wrote:holy smokes, crunk and swedd, give it a rest already that was exhausting to read

You are better than me then Fats because I couldn't be bothered reading any of it!

SWedd523 · Post #349 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:33 am

I'm still surprised Pete never accumulated more assists. I looked back through his numbers half expecting 30/10 seasons from him. But he always hovered around the 4-6 assists mark.

Post #350 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:03 am

SWEDD523 wrote:I'm still surprised Pete never accumulated more assists. I looked back through his numbers half expecting 30/10 seasons from him. But he always hovered around the 4-6 assists mark.

probably because he was always on crap teams where he was expected to score 30 points a night. seems like pete was a flashy passer as a way to entertain and not so much because he just loved making those around him better or because it was the best play available. i definitely dont think pete got "the secret". but he was surely fun to watch.

Post #351 » by **Diop** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:52 am

I was seriously considering starting Sabonis and Walton as twin towers. Sabonis was agile enough in his youth to guard a lot of 4's.

fatlever wrote: payton might be the worst passer on the team.

That's the funny part, he would be considered a top 10 all time point guard but your right, the others would be considered more creative passers. I decided after Bird and Walton that ball movement was going to be motto for this team. There would be some slick passing for some easy scores with this lot. Its not like they can't finish themselves either!

I'm not sure of the make up of my team yet, but I think Gary will probably stay starting point guard for his super tough defense and he was also an excellent finisher for a point guard. I'm sure he will love all the outlet passes from Walton, Unseld and Sabonis.

captaincrunk · Post #352 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:54 am

Sachmo wrote:I was seriously considering starting Sabonis and Walton as twin towers. Sabonis was agile enough in his youth to guard a lot of 4's.

fatlever wrote: payton might be the worst passer on the team.

That's the funny part, he would be considered a top 10 all time point guard but your right, the others would be considered more creative passers. I decided after Bird and Walton that ball movement was going to be motto for this team. There would be some slick passing for some easy scores with this lot. Its not like they can't finish themselves either!

I'm not sure of the make up of my team yet, but I think Gary will probably stay starting point guard for his super tough defense and he was also an excellent finisher for a point guard. I'm sure he will love all the outlet passes from Walton, Unseld and Sabonis.

I'd get more slashers.

LamarMatic7 · Post #353 » by **LamarMatic7** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:23 am

Sachmo wrote:For the Olympian category, he's not My vydas he's not your Vydas, he's Arvydas Sabonis!

Sexiest draft pick so far.

captaincrunk · Post #354 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:20 am

LamarMatic7 wrote:
Sachmo wrote:For the Olympian category, he's not My vydas he's not your Vydas, he's Arvydas Sabonis!

Sexiest draft pick so far.

The "Big O" begs to differ :lol:

countryboi · Post #355 » by **countryboi** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:59 pm

i am going with bobby jones the first sixth man...lock down .....i would love to see him how him and rodman get along

Career highlights and awards

NBA Champion (1983)
4× NBA All-Star (1977–1978, 1981–1982)
ABA All-Star (1976)
NBA Sixth Man of the Year (1983)
8× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1977–1984)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1985)
All-ABA Second Team (1976)
2× ABA All-Defensive First Team (1975–1976)
ABA All-Rookie First Team (1975)
Consensus NCAA All-American Second Team (1974)
#24 Retired by the Philadelphia 76ers

SWedd523 · Post #356 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:01 pm

Never knew he went to South Meck

Post #357 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:13 pm

SWEDD523 wrote:Never knew he went to South Meck

yeah, id put jones on the charlotte regional area all-star team.

bobby jones - south meck
james worthy - gastonia
sleepy floyd - gastonia
darrell armstrong - gastonia
walter davis - pineville
haywood workman - myers park
antawn jamison - providence
steph curry - charlotte christian
seth curry - charlotte christian
todd fuller - charlotte christian (i think)
jeff mcinnis - west charlotte

who else?

SWedd523 · Post #358 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:32 pm

fatlever wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:Never knew he went to South Meck

yeah, id put jones on the charlotte regional area all-star team.

bobby jones - south meck
james worthy - gastonia
sleepy floyd - gastonia
darrell armstrong - gastonia
walter davis - pineville
haywood workman - myers park
antawn jamison - providence
steph curry - charlotte christian
seth curry - charlotte christian
todd fuller - charlotte christian (i think)
jeff mcinnis - west charlotte

who else?

EDIT: Todd Fuller! lol

Seth Curry if you wanna add him prematurely. I have a feeling he's going to be pretty nice down the road. Does David Thompson count? Shelby isn't that far away

Walter Davis went to South Meck
Anthony Morrow went to Charlotte Latin or Christian

countryboi · Post #359 » by **countryboi** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:34 pm

according to wiki he still lives in the area.....almost makes me wish we had a hometown slot

Post #360 » by **fatlever** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:13 pm

haha...ok maybe fuller was a stretch. but he was still good enough to be drafted in the top 15.

i forgot about morrow.

i think we can sneak david thompson in the regional lineup.