Richard Griffin is an egregious misuse of carbon

[TheBunk]

how is he employed? let alone covering the jays...

Unfortunately, the bar isn't set very high when guys like Blair and Elliot are also covering the Jays. It's nice to see the DJF guys get more mainstream coverage though

[The Flying Gent]

how is he employed? let alone covering the jays...

Unfortunately, the bar isn't set very high when guys like Blair and Elliot are also covering the Jays. It's nice to see the DJF guys get more mainstream coverage though

What's wrong with Blair? From what i've read and heard from him, i always though he was pretty good.

[distracted]

Huh? You didn't mean wealth by "elite" because that wouldn't make any sense within the context. By "No wonder the elite have such an easy time manipulating the masses" you must have been talking about stat-heads manipulating people (clearly, they haven't been as successful as you claim). Your definition of "real baseball guy" as people who know more than you do is precisely the problem because people are buying whatever the vaunted Old School is selling them at face value, despite the willful ignorance required to keep them afloat.

He did mean wealthy when saying elite, and he wasn't even talking about sports with that comment.

What he is saying is: seeing how easy it is for Schad to get whipped into a frenzy by the words of a meaningless writer about something that means very little in the real world (Verlander winning the MVP), he understands how the elite (substitute that for governments, rulers, the wealthy, what have you) have such an easy time whipping populations of citizens into a frenzy.

He could have been more specific and said: "No wonder apple has such an easy time manipulating consumers" or "No wonder the republicans have such an easy time getting their base angry at the gays", but I think what he was saying was pretty clear.

Unless I'm way off the mark here, of course. In which case, tecumseh18/Hoopstarr, I apologize.

[Hoopstarr]

That makes sense now, but that just makes Griffin the elitist. He and his kind are the ones that anoint themselves the guardians of baseball's integrity and legacy. And none of this excuses Griffin's totally disingenuous treatment of the issue for many years. He should know better by now; his thoughts should have evolved; but they haven't, because he's not interested in that.

[tecumseh18]

Thanks, distracted. I didn't want to clarify it and risk turning this into another CBA-type thread on the Raptor board.

Hoop, forget "elite". My offhand comment was completely OT, and the concept doesn't have any application in this context. For many years, Griffin played the same role for the Expos in real life that George Constanza did for the Yankees in TV land. He knows the "jimmies and joes" aspect of the game well, but not so much the x's and o's. But I still consider that to be a valuable contribution, enough to anoint Griffin as a "real baseball guy". I never find DJF's repeated attempted takedowns of him to be credible, or even funny.

[Schad]

Barry Petchesky mades fun of this sort of column: http://deadspin.com/5842987/statistics- ... g-baseball

[gamer4Life]

Verlander is 2011's Great White Hope.