Which Center Fits?

[Worm Guts]

Not a lot of PF minutes available for a guy like Chuck Hayes

[shangrila]

Not a lot of PF minutes available for a guy like Chuck Hayes

He's a centre. A 6-6 centre, but at least he's not a PF.

[PG24]

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This post made me start thinking that I would actually be fairly excited to trade for Chuck Hayes as another veteran mentor type.

I wonder if Houston would do a Chuck Hayes + Battier TPE for Anthony Randolph (questionable fit under Adelman) and Pekovic (McHale's low post guy) type of trade?

Chuck Hayes is intriguing especially for Adelman's system, and he does fit the mold as a veteran mentor who can play an important part in the rotation. He is a free agent though so I don't think we'd need to give up any value to acquire him. But to make it happen I'd be on board with a Hayes S&T involving Pekovic to free up a roster spot and clear salary.

[GopherIt!]

Not a lot of PF minutes available for a guy like Chuck Hayes

Chuck Hayes never waits for minutes. The minutes wish Chuck Hayes would play them.

[Narf]

We probably don't have a star C no matter what we do, but Pekovic could flourish as a post scorer/passer with devastating picks that makes the guards look over their shoulders. If he isn't in foul trouble, Pekovic fits reasonably well in Adelman's system. Love/Pekovic makes a solid high/low on offense. Darko is better on defense so far, but Pekovic might be the better "fit" on offense.

I don't have much faith in any of our centers to be all that good, nor do I think they are all that bad. I suppose if I had to put Money on it I'd say Darko ends up being the best of the lot and slightly better than he was last year.

[Biff Cooper]

I really don't see us acquiring a new center. We've got Darko, Pek, AR, Miller, and Love on our roster. We need the center to play good defense and have a decent efficiency offensively by making easy buckets. I think Darko and Pek can both handle this role with the other three getting a little time at center as well.

Sure Adelman had Vlade in Sacramento, one year of Rony Seikely at GS, and two years of Yao in Houston, some decent stretch center years out of Brad Miller, but the rest of his coaching career has been pieced together with people like Kevin Duckworth, Chuck Hayes, and Felton Spencer at the center position.

[Tirion]

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but damn, Cousins would've looked sooo good in Adelman's system. Definitely getting a young Chris Webber vibe from him.

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[lilroddyb]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/524975-kevin-durant-darko-milicic-is-one-of-the-best-centers-in-the-nba

Darko had a pretty good year to me. Some of you guys suffer from the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. Besides maybe 5 dominant centers in the league, many good teams get by without a great one nowadays. Darko was one of the better ones last year, and for a long stretch he WAS one of the top centers production wise. He lead the league in blocks for most of the year and finished 5th. In just 24 mins/game, 9 pts, 5 rebs, and 2 blocks.... Most teams would kill to get that from their center. He fits Adelman's system as well as any center in the league does and I'm sure he knows that. Then you get sheer athleticism with Anthony Randolph, which provides a change of pace in the game. Both of those two players have all the ability in the world to be very good..... the only problem is if they will bring it every night. If so, the T wolves center spot wont be an issue!

I agree and I hope Hope Randolph can get a little bit like chandler( not saying he is but he has the athleticism like Chandler but not the strength ) on Mavs. Were Chandler guards the better big man and faster like Bosh and were love would then guard the center Joel Anthony same with Oklahoma City love could guard Perkins while Anthony would guard Ibaka.

[moss_is_1]

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but damn, Cousins would've looked sooo good in Adelman's system. Definitely getting a young Chris Webber vibe from him.

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Our defense sucks enough as it is...

[Narf]

I ranked Cousins as the #2 player in the draft that year, and I was unhappy that we didn't draft him. But from day one there were rumors of him being a cancer....and that's essentially the team he said he wanted to play for. For those who don't remember, he said he didn't want to play in Minnesota and skipped the workout here to snub us. So, if you think he's a cancer in Sacto, what do you think he would have been here?

That said, with Adelman I wish we had taken him as well. If nothing else, he'd be a better trade asset than Johnson. But I do think Johnson's defense and 3 point shooting will improve significantly, so I think he's going to end up being a solid #4 starter or stellar bench player.

[MilBucksBackOnTop06]

Are there specific skill-sets we should value more under Adelman?

Rank the centers you'd want to acquire if Adelman is the coach.

#1 ANDREW BOGUT

I would love for my Bucks to trade you Bogut with Miller backing him up. Adelman does not have time for kids...but with Rubio, Love and Bogut along with perhaps a pick of Webster or Williams there is enough there to contend.

But it will cost you something. I would ask for Wesley Johnson. Michael Beasley (actually I perfer Williams but he is a tweener) and either Darko and or Randolph for Bogut and SJackson two vets I am sure that Taylor would make Kahn take for his assets he got and you throw in Hayward as well.

Kahn has done a great job accumulating assets. Bogut with Love and Rubio and shooters like Webster, Jackson and then go get Brandon Roy and you are in the mix to make a serious run right now.

You have your KG type Star in Love. He and Bogut and Rubio would be phenomenal...and we can better build around Brandon jennings with young assets and let Bogut go. Bogut is who you need.

Perfect Adelman type player. A Vlade Divac type rebounder and passer to go with White chocalate like Ricky Rubio.

Your team would be scandalous..but I have been in here before and told you that...

[shangrila]

I love Love as much as the next guy but he's still a long way from being what KG was for us.

[Pofukauskas]

Hello! My first post here...I really like some of your players and new coach obviously and I just want to add smth. You really don't need another center. You have what it takes to defend the paint and the points will come from other positions in your team. IMO to be a contender in 3 years you only need two trades:
1. trade Rubio for Lowry until Rubio stil has some value...
2. trade one of Beasley/Williams + pick (if necessary) for an elite SG. Someone like Eric Gordon for example.

Lowry
Gordon
Beasley
Love
Darko

That's a contender under Adelman in 2-3 years...cheers!

[Narf]

Personally, I'm more inclined to overpay a SG like Aflalo then go after a center. I think that would do more to improve our team.

[Torcher]

Personally, I'm more inclined to overpay a SG like Aflalo then go after a center. I think that would do more to improve our team.

I don't think you know how a good center can change a team, especially one who defends the paint well and can shoot fromt he post.

1. trade Rubio for Lowry until Rubio stil has some value...
2. trade one of Beasley/Williams + pick (if necessary) for an elite SG. Someone like Eric Gordon for example.

Lowry
Gordon
Beasley
Love
Darko

That's a contender under Adelman in 2-3 years...cheers!

First of all, welcome to the forums. Second, there is no way in anyone's right mind who would trade Lowry for an unproven Rubio. Lastly, I don't think we could offer anything to the Clippers that would give us Gordon in return. Eric is their star behind Griffin and is, IMO, the top 5 best shooting guards today, so I don't think he'll be traded any time soon.

[Devilzsidewalk]

I know I'm beating a dead horse, but damn, Cousins would've looked sooo good in Adelman's system. Definitely getting a young Chris Webber vibe from him.

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my only issue is that you'll see old tapes where Shaq does all those face up dribble drive moves as a joke in practices and all star games, but Cousins is doing them seriously like it's his game and w/ a d-bag scowl on his face the whole time. I'm going to reserve my full regret until I see him doing more drop steps in the post and working w/ his back to the basket