The Bears need to fire Jerry Angelo.

SoulEater7 · Post #1 » by **SoulEater7** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:40 am

Ok I figure if Theo freaking Einstein (yawn) is get talked about on this board we have to talk about the beloved. DA BEARS. We stinks!

So people need to get this in their meathead skulls BREAKING NEWS::::::::::WE AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN A SUPER BOWL.

So the next argument then is well Jerry Angelo is signed until 2013 he's not going anywhere.....

WOW so he's trying to kill your QB he should be locked up for attempted Murder of Jay Cutler!!!

I can't believe this dude has a job!

He's the dumbest GM I've ever seen. I'm not even kidding.

Thoughts?

Fire Angelo and fire Martz.

Post #2 » by **Payt10** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:44 am

I can't wait until the day both Angelo and Lovie are gone. We were idiots in the first place for signing Lovie to that extension after last season when he still had another year left on his contract.. Oh, and Martz can go as well. His geniusness isn't working here in Chicago with our talented being severely limited, thanks to Mr. Angelo.

Art Vandelay · Post #3 » by **Art Vandelay** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:06 am

Angelo has needed to go for a long time. Martz shouldn't have been hired again after Lions and 49ers. Marinelli just..doesn't win. Lovie's voice may be growing old at this point.

But yeah, get Angelo out of there. He's had years to put talent on the offensive line. This is the first good QB the Bears have had in years and he's getting less protection than Jim Miller and Chris Chandler got, which is insane. Why rely on guys that have been awful and shown almost no promise like Webb, Louis and Omeyele?

SoulEater7 · Post #4 » by **SoulEater7** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:10 am

Payt10 wrote:I can't wait until the day both Angelo and Lovie are gone. We were idiots in the first place for signing Lovie to that extension after last season when he still had another year left on his contract.. Oh, and Martz can go as well. His geniusness isn't working here in Chicago with our talented being severely limited, thanks to Mr. Angelo.

If you're going that far I can't wait until the day the Family sells the franchise to someone who has a business outside of the Chicago Bears.

But.. one step at a time.

I think you'll have to keep Lovie until his contract is up. Right now the talent is the issue and that falls on Jerry Angelo who has botched trades with the Ravens in the draft. Botched the Matt Forte negotiations. Who have left this offensive line become rotten. Who's draft picks have been busts. It freaking BS!!

Art Vandelay · Post #5 » by **Art Vandelay** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:13 am

The Forte contact thing is the one thing he's done right lately. Forte is running his ass off lately. I've never seen him play like he's playing this year. Might as well take advantage of the contract year..

SpeedyWindRose · Post #6 » by **SpeedyWindRose** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:16 am

**** Angelo and Lovie. I can live with Martz, but only if we get the pieces necessary for his offense to work.

SoulEater7 · Post #7 » by **SoulEater7** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:20 am

Art Vandelay wrote:The Forte contact thing is the one thing he's done right lately. Forte is running his ass off lately. I've never seen him play like he's playing this year. Might as well take advantage of the contract year..

Oh so he's putting the carrot in front of the horse kinda thing? Seems kinda shady and low for a back that gets paid 600,000 right now and is your best offensive weapon. If thats how you wanna treat your players I guess you've really taken a page out of old George Halas' book.

Art Vandelay · Post #8 » by **Art Vandelay** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:23 am

Eh, dude signed the contract. He didn't hold out and chose to play, unlike Chris Johnson who signed and just got his first TD this week. Forte is gonna get a payday from someone soon and it'll probably be more than I'll ever see in my life, so..yeah, not too worried there.

GetBuLLish · Post #9 » by **GetBuLLish** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:25 am

Absolutely no exaggeration at all: the Bears personnel and Mike Martz' system are the worst possible match you could ever have.

The team is an absolute mess.

League Circles · Post #10 » by **League Circles** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:53 am

Oh helllzzzz yeah they need to fire that sorry sack of a GM. He's never done anything remotely special, and has missed on many draft picks and signings. I'm so sick of his below-mediocre job. He should have been gone years ago, but he got lucky with a couple of over-achieving teams, especially last year and the super bowl team.

Without Urlacher, who he inherited, we may not have made the playoffs in the whole Angelo era. It's been 10 effing years.

CjayC · Post #11 » by **CjayC** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 5:53 am

I feel bad for Jay and Forte. They're wasting their time with this garbage team. I mean really, Jerry's track record is there. How the hell can you build for the future with a GM that doesn't know how to draft, or at best is lucky to pick up a few serviceable players here and there basically because of playing the odds game with our draft picks? To top it all off the defense is getting old at the same time.

organix85 · Post #12 » by **organix85** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:09 pm

I promise you that the only change this offseason will be Martz.

The Explorer · Post #13 » by **The Explorer** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:14 pm

I think this offseason will be it. Angelo is taking a ton of heat so far, which will lead him to retirement. And no, Tim Ruskell will not take over for him. Martz will be gone too.

dafunky1 · Post #14 » by **dafunky1** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:46 pm

Im no football fan,but I figured the Bears were in trouble when they didnt sign Olin Kruetz,then they signed Roy Williams.I dont follow football,but that dude sucks monkey balls.

WEFFPIM · Post #15 » by **WEFFPIM** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:54 pm

It really seems like the vitriol towards Angelo is as large as it's ever been this year. If Jay Cutler is still alive at season's end, he may lead the mob himself.

ipoopinmypants · Post #16 » by **ipoopinmypants** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:28 pm

Angelo needs to go ASAP. I'd be willing to watch Lovie, Martz and co. stick around for next season just to see if year 3 is the magic season for the offense.

And I'm not sure if we should be growing tired of the Cover 2 scheme itself or simply the lack of personnel in the secondary we've had for it. It doesn't seem like the type of defense that can dominate today's offenses the way it could 5 years ago.

ransom122 · Post #17 » by **ransom122** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:11 am

hasn't there been teams before that play bad in order for changes to be made in the front office or coaches? i have a feeling after last weeks horrible run defense against the lions....the players are getting sick of their coaches...and are not really trying so maybe changes will be made?

heir_jordan22 · Post #18 » by **heir_jordan22** » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:07 pm

Angelo is garbage. Traded Olsen so that he wouldn't ahve to pay him, but clamied that he couldn't block even though he is a better blocker than Kellen Davis. Has almost $20M in cap right now and signed no offensive linemen. Didn't resign any of his stars (Matt Forte, Chris Harris, and Olse). Harris will probably walk after this season because now he is being benched even though he is an all pro safety.

He is a joke

Chewie · Post #19 » by **Chewie** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:29 am

Would looove it if we ditched Lovie, his whole staff, and especially Angelo ASAP. I have found Lovie to be a poor clock manager and has been awful in knowing when to throw the red flag. Not sure what else he actually does. He doesn't give me the Ditka-like press conference quotes that I crave, too. :wink:

Angelo's record speaks for itself. Terrible drafter esp in the early rounds. Michael Haynes. Dan FRICKING Bazuin !!! Jarron "I can jump out of a pool" Gilbert. Garrett Wolfe. Juaquin Iglesias. All high picks. All utter crap that were mostly reaches where they were selected. If you're going to strike out, at least pick a guy where he's slotted to go. It's like Jerry's trying to outsmart everyone. Points for Briggs, Hester, Forte, and Tillman but the misses far outweigh the hits and the QB carousel prior to giving up and just trading for an established guy was nothing short of a joke. Still loving that Kordell Stewart signing!

And he doesn't understand the importance of the offensive line in his drafts. Between the 2003 and 2006 drafts, Angelo drafted 33 guys and 2 (TWO!!) were offensive linemen and they were both the Bears' final picks in those drafts - 6th and 7th round picks :

2003 : 12 picks - 1 OL (6th rd)
2004: 8 picks - 0 OL
2005: 6 picks - 0 OL
2006: 7 picks - 1 OL (7th rd)

And you wonder why Cutler is picking his teeth off the ground every Sunday. You ignore the position enough and it's going to bite you in the @ss in the end. The problem is, when Angelo finally does pull the trigger on an o-lineman with a high pick, he ends up with the likes of Chris Williams. Maybe ignoring the position is better?

And how do you keep your job when you give Chester Taylor $7m guaranteed money and the immortal Brandon Manumaleuna $6.1m then cut them them both after one (terrible) year? How do you explain that waste of money to poor Virginia? He then proceeds to alienate the Ravens after he screwed them over in a botched draft-day deal. Awesome! There's a team we can take off the speed dial for future transactions.

We're not going anywhere with Jerry. We need to scrap this front office and start from the ground up with Cowher and start the rebuilding process in the trenches. Consider going 3-4 like all the cool kids are doing, get an actual pass rush, get a o-line that can actually block and go from there.

And go install some goddamn FieldTurf while you're at it.

BIGGIEsmalls 23 · Post #20 » by **BIGGIEsmalls 23** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:23 pm

As I've said in previous threads, WHY would Angelo trade multiple 1st & 2nd round draft picks for a young pro-bowl QB without having a PLAN to surround that QB with capable receivers & offensive linemen?

Although he spent two high picks on O-Linemen (IMHO, Williams can now be considered a bust & the jury is still out on Carmini), It's amazing to me how he actually convinced himself that scrapheap free agents & late round picks at the O-Line positions were the answer. Not to mention the fact that ALL of our receivers (including TE) are mediocre.