TNA Thread:

[skbucks1985]

The heel turn could've been done a lot better. I liked the fact that he didn't immediately grab the bottle, but after he did it he should've shown regret. Then next week talk about how he loved Storm but the opportunity to win the title was there and he knows Storm would've done the same thing if he was in his position. Then he turns full heel during there rematch.

[Celtics_Champs]

Former developmental company for wwe, OVW, is now the developmental for TNA.

[Stanford]

That's pretty big news if you ask me.

[Celtics_Champs]

Agreed, did TNA even have a developmental system before this? Now not only do they have one, they got a great one.

[tugs]

no use expanding and developing new talents if they continue to feature washed up wrestlers.

[skbucks1985]

To there credit they do seem to be inching towards improvement in that area. They still have the ridiculous Bischoff's story line but Hogan's been off for a few weeks and Sting seems to be moving towards a face GM-type character which is probably the best role for him now. Overall it definitely seems like more of the younger guys are getting featured.

As for OVW there are guys in TNA, Jesse Neal and Crimson come to mind who have lots of potential but need more seasoning before they are ready to be really featured. Crimson especially. This guy is a more bad ass looking Sheamus. And he's a legit bad ass to boot having served two tours of duty in Iraq. I don't know when this guy's contract expires but I'll guarantee you when it does he's going to get a call from Stamford, CT. Anyway, the point I was getting at is these are guys who have all the potential in the world but there still a little and because of that there pushes get stalled which hurts there long term potential.

[pduh01]

Yeah it is getting a bit better I have been watching TNA the past three weeks which is a new record breaking for me

Still a longgggggs way to go though the booking is still meh little improving but as I say long ways to go.

I think with TNA signing with OVW is a smart business move for them, great move will help young talents definitely

[skbucks1985]

There wasn't too much in the last show that I had a problem with. The Bischoff segment was the only thing but that was just one segment. The only other thing was Karen Angle continuing to be in charge of the Knockouts division. I think its a decent angle because Karen is a heat magnet because the crowd genuinely dislikes her. But its completely illogical that she would remain in this position of power after Immortal lost there power. But if they keep doing good things with that division I can get over that the story line is massively illogical

[Celtics_Champs]

TNA's got a PPV tonight or something.... anyone watching?

[CapeCrusader]

Nah prob just gonna read spoilers.

[Dunthreevy]

Figured I'd bring this in here so I don't derail the SS thread....

And I probably shouldn't even say this because its a thread about Survivor Series, but as for Morrison if the rumors are true that his contract ends at the end of the year John Hennican be on the first 2012 taping of Impact with Melina. Because remember the 90 day no-compete clause is only for guys who are released.

I think that would actually be pretty damn cool. Morrison isn't going to bring HUGE star power to TNA but he's definitely a guy that could succeed there, more than he is in WWE. They're refusal (or maybe his refusal) to freshen up his character is the main reason he's gone nowhere in recent times. I think Taz & Tenay could tease a surprise for the whole show, showing limos out back, paparrazi, etc. and then for the last segment of the show have a limo door open but before the camera can see who it is a slew of sercurity blocks the camera. Cut to the ramp inside the IMPACT zone, and the music gets cued and out comes Melina with her old gimmick (photographers all round her and a red carpet being rolled out. Then just as she's about to start walking down the ramp, she turns around and out comes Morrison in full-on heel mode. Can't think of exactly where to go from there to end it, but that would be cool, and it would be a teaser to draw a few people to watch the following week.

[skbucks1985]

I'd actually go a completely different route. I think Morrison's biggest issue is that I don't know if pseudo celebrity or 70's rock star are main event gimmicks. I think if he's got any chance at being a main eventer he needs to be himself. So if I were doing it, I'd do it simple and old school. AJ Styles is wrestling someone in the main event and whomever that person is feuding with interrupts the match and the two start brawling to the backstage area. AJ is just standing in the ring kinda confused as to what just happened and Morrison comes through the crowd hits AJ with that spinning neckbreaker gives him a chair shot and throws him out of the ring.

Normally, I'd say end the show there but since TNA tapes there shows I'd have Morrison cut a worked shoot promo. Talk about how he's a wrestler, and not some wannabe celebrity he doesn't hang out with douches like Kevin Federline. Then transition into talking about the John Morrison character. Talking about how this character was based on Jim Morrison and how he didn't know anything about Jim Morrison and how he was born 8 years after Jim Morrison died. Throughout his tenure in WWE he was being given ridiculous characters but now in TNA he is going to be himself, John Hennigan and John Hennigan doesn't care about the fans (because he's going to be a heel) the only things he cares about are winning titles and becoming the biggest star in this industry and that's why he went after AJ Styles, the franchise, the face of TNA.

[skbucks1985]

Because TNA has live tapings I'd actually do this at TNA's December PPV. Although if you're going to do that, I wouldn't have Morrison cut a promo.

[skbucks1985]

To there credit they do seem to be inching towards improvement in that area. They still have the ridiculous Bischoff's story line but Hogan's been off for a few weeks and Sting seems to be moving towards a face GM-type character which is probably the best role for him now. Overall it definitely seems like more of the younger guys are getting featured.

As for OVW there are guys in TNA, Jesse Neal and Crimson come to mind who have lots of potential but need more seasoning before they are ready to be really featured. Crimson especially. This guy is a more bad ass looking Sheamus. And he's a legit bad ass to boot having served two tours of duty in Iraq. I don't know when this guy's contract expires but I'll guarantee you when it does he's going to get a call from Stamford, CT. Anyway, the point I was getting at is these are guys who have all the potential in the world but there still a little and because of that there pushes get stalled which hurts there long term potential.

Apparently while TNA agrees with me Jesse Neal doesn't. I've read a couple different places that they tried to send him down to OVW and he declined and after he does a few house shows this weekend he's done with the company.

[tugs]

Figured I'd bring this in here so I don't derail the SS thread....

I think that would actually be pretty damn cool. Morrison isn't going to bring HUGE star power to TNA but he's definitely a guy that could succeed there, more than he is in WWE. They're refusal (or maybe his refusal) to freshen up his character is the main reason he's gone nowhere in recent times. I think Taz & Tenay could tease a surprise for the whole show, showing limos out back, paparrazi, etc. and then for the last segment of the show have a limo door open but before the camera can see who it is a slew of sercurity blocks the camera. Cut to the ramp inside the IMPACT zone, and the music gets cued and out comes Melina with her old gimmick (photographers all round her and a red carpet being rolled out. Then just as she's about to start walking down the ramp, she turns around and out comes Morrison in full-on heel mode. Can't think of exactly where to go from there to end it, but that would be cool, and it would be a teaser to draw a few people to watch the following week.

I'd actually go a completely different route. I think Morrison's biggest issue is that I don't know if pseudo celebrity or 70's rock star are main event gimmicks. I think if he's got any chance at being a main eventer he needs to be himself. So if I were doing it, I'd do it simple and old school. AJ Styles is wrestling someone in the main event and whomever that person is feuding with interrupts the match and the two start brawling to the backstage area. AJ is just standing in the ring kinda confused as to what just happened and Morrison comes through the crowd hits AJ with that spinning neckbreaker gives him a chair shot and throws him out of the ring.

Normally, I'd say end the show there but since TNA tapes there shows I'd have Morrison cut a worked shoot promo. Talk about how he's a wrestler, and not some wannabe celebrity he doesn't hang out with douches like Kevin Federline. Then transition into talking about the John Morrison character. Talking about how this character was based on Jim Morrison and how he didn't know anything about Jim Morrison and how he was born 8 years after Jim Morrison died. Throughout his tenure in WWE he was being given ridiculous characters but now in TNA he is going to be himself, John Hennigan and John Hennigan doesn't care about the fans (because he's going to be a heel) the only things he cares about are winning titles and becoming the biggest star in this industry and that's why he went after AJ Styles, the franchise, the face of TNA.

both ideas made me

Dunthreevy's idea is really awesome and safi's, though old school, is solid. I disagree with dropping the character though, I think it works as a heel.

I think both ideas can be done in two different Impact schedules, though the element of surprise for the one idea will be lost after one is made. let's see...

safi's idea can be done first, but without revelation of JoMo's character. they'll only see whoever AJ's opponent laying on his back and there will be a "mystery attacker". on the next episode they can do Dunthreevy's idea but, John as a face, establishing fan base, befriending AJ and what not. then they reveal AJ's attacker via a video then they see that JoMo was the one who did it then attacks AJ just like what safi brought up.

the idea of JoMo going to TNA excites me but I'd rather see him in the WWE.

he can pull a Christian maybe?

[Celtsfan1980]

Former developmental company for wwe, OVW, is now the developmental for TNA.

They steal their wrestlers, and now they're stealing their developmental league? No originality in TNA at all.

Most people here watch a lot more wrestling than I do, but I thought Morrison's mic skills are generally considered subpar. One reason it may be best to never give him a World Title or even put him in that position of main eventer.

[skbucks1985]

I think subpar is a kind way of describing it. He's bad on the mic but I'd like to believe that if he was allowed to be himself and let his natural personality come out he'd improve.

[Dunthreevy]

TNA was actually not half-bad this week, aside from the Karen Jarrett/Jeff Hardy promo being one of the worst promos I've ever seen, and them continuing with ridiculous angle with Bischoff's son actually beating Gunner, clean none-the-less.

I think the pairing of Matt Morgan and Crimson as a tag team is genius. It can shield their flaws and makes the first "monster" tag team that I can remember in quite a while. Sort of a twin towers type of thing. Glad they got the belts of Mexican America. Those 2 have combined for the least amount of wrestling talent in a tag team in the history of TNA. They're REALLY bad, not to mention terrible on the mic.

[whysoserious]

How many times are TNA gonna show the same promo about Roode doing things wrong according to his family to get the title?

[Brandon-Clyde]

How many times are TNA gonna show the same promo about Roode doing things wrong according to his family to get the title?

33 1/3