If You Could: Bosh for Noah?

[mattbulls]

Hey gents, long time heat fan here from when wade was drafted and i liked rafer alston a lot. I would trade Bosh but no just for Noah, it'd have to include one of Gibson or korver

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1136509&start=15

long time Bulls fan here, I say the least irritating is the Raptors because they seem to know how bad they suck, while fan bases like Detroit Pistons always are 100% sure they're gonna be 5th seed every single year.

[Miamis3rdRing]

Nice work mattbulls!

Following your lead, I did a quick Google search and also found these. I think you were on to something.

Hey, huge laker fan here, I just remembered a while back when cobe was in negotiations for some italy team, did it not pan out because of the schedule change?

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Long time wiz fan here, I think Jan Vesely is gonna be fun to watch on the fast break, but very painful to watch him getting dunked on and abused in the paint

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hey guys long time wolves fan here, do u think Adlemen will push managerment to trade for a big center like shaq?

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Long time Pistons fan here, and I don't think either of these guys fit the rebuild, unless u are sine and trading away villanova cuz he;s ****

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Hi guys, long time Atlanta Hawks fan here, and I just wanted to know if the Atlanta spearhead group sold the team to a people who is ready moving the team, would you still cheer for them in Vancouver, Seattle, New Jersey, Anaheim, Buffalo, Albakerky, atsetera

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big cavs fan here, thanks

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Hey guys long time spurs fan here, and I have to say im very disappointed in R.C. Buford charged with DWI

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Hey, big celtics fan here, I've always thought Davis should've been traded when his value was highest a couple seasons ago, when Garnett couldn't play in the playoffs cuz he was injured I thought Baby Glen Davids stepped right up. It would've been pretty neat if they traded him for a young up and commer

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Long time Clippers/Blazers fan here, I think this trade would be for both teams

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long time Jazz fan here, confirming this was last summer?

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Big time indian pacers fan here from back in the days

Q: Are you satisfied with the direction of the team? A lot of people criticize the Pacers for having a ceiling as 1st or 2nd round knockout, without a true superstar to help them contend. Would you trade Danny Granger for a top 5 draft pick next season if you could?

Q: If we have a free agency for the upcoming season, two of the biggest names available are Nene and David West - both of whom are perfect fits for the Pacers at PF. If given the choice between Nene (assume 11-12 million annually) or David West (assume 8-9 million annually), which would you sign?

Q: How confident are you in Darren Collision as a long term PG? Would you have traded him for one of the young PGs out of this draft like Kemba Walker, Brandon Knight and Jimmer Fredette?

WOuld not have traded for those guys no sir

Q: What do you project for Paul George in his prime statistically? Do you believe he has star potential?

Well in my 2k12 he's already lights out and catches most of my alley oops passes so i say he'll be at least a gay type of player (rudy)

Q: If you have to rank the players on the team according to whom you'd ask the most for in a trade, or who's most valuable going forward, what would be your rank?

il just do the top 5 since i dont know everyone on the team

1. Granger
2. Collison
3. George

Q: Predict what the Pacers record would have been if we had played an 82 G season

they didnt play an 82 game season huh?

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Wow! And there's PLENTY more where that came from...it'd probably take me a couple hours to post them all.

@ Tim - My bad on the ninja deletions lol. Completely agree on the Boozer/Noah thing. Even Riley could not make Boozer a respectable defender, and until that happens at least some of Noah's effort will be wasted since he basically has to cover his guy + Boozer's...IMO.

[ninjabelly]

i just spit a piece of snickers out when i saw that post

[Heat3]

What's the problem? He's just a big fan of the game LMAO!

[nitetrain8603]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves. Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

[ninjabelly]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves. Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

yeah, it's just not worth the downgrade in skill, bosh is an elite PF.

[Wade2k6]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves. Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

He doesn't free up money to sign a good PG and bench players though. Noah makes 12 million, Bosh makes 16 million. That takes the Heat salary from around 67.8 to 63.8 million, still not under the cap. Miami already has a Noah-lite player in Haslem, they can't afford that big downgrade in talent for fit. There's no chance Miami makes this deal.

[BadMofoPimp]

Hey gents, long time heat fan here from when wade was drafted and i liked rafer alston a lot. I would trade Bosh but no just for Noah, it'd have to include one of Gibson or korver

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1136509&start=15

long time Bulls fan here, I say the least irritating is the Raptors because they seem to know how bad they suck, while fan bases like Detroit Pistons always are 100% sure they're gonna be 5th seed every single year.

Even though I am not a Bulls fan and one of my favorite teams is Detroit since I was born there, grew up near Miami and live in Orlando, I post on the Pistons board often too and they always think they are a 5th seed. I am one of the few that will tell it like it is there and tell them that the Pistons are a lottery team and get hosed. Then, later in the season, they all have to eat crow. I am a realist.

[ninjabelly]

Hey gents, long time heat fan here from when wade was drafted and i liked rafer alston a lot. I would trade Bosh but no just for Noah, it'd have to include one of Gibson or korver

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1136509&start=15

long time Bulls fan here, I say the least irritating is the Raptors because they seem to know how bad they suck, while fan bases like Detroit Pistons always are 100% sure they're gonna be 5th seed every single year.

Even though I am not a Bulls fan and one of my favorite teams is Detroit since I was born there, grew up near Miami and live in Orlando, I post on the Pistons board often too and they always think they are a 5th seed. I am one of the few that will tell it like it is there and tell them that the Pistons are a lottery team and get hosed. Then, later in the season, they all have to eat crow. I am a realist.

ok....?

[BBallFreak]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves.

Clearly, you didn't watch Miami last year, and even if they were enough to carry a good regular season offense, it takes post offense to win in the post season. Miami's already a great defensive team. Who else on the team provides post offense?

Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

Don't need his ball handling and passing, and all the other stuff...Haslem does too.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Now? Hell no...

[Lord Leoshes]

The only person that mite have a chance at being amnestied, would be Miller, & i wouldn't hold my breath on it happening either.

The 2 main things i am concerned with is are we going to be able to use the mid this year, & next year.
& will the amnesty be able to be used throughout the 10 year contract, or would it be shorter.

[BBallFreak]

The only person that mite have a chance at being amnestied, would be Miller, & i wouldn't hold my breath on it happening either.

The 2 main things i am concerned with is are we going to be able to use the mid this year, & next year.
& will the amnesty be able to be used throughout the 10 year contract, or would it be shorter.

We should have the full use of our MLE as we weren't a tax team last year. Next year is a different story...

[nitetrain8603]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves.

Clearly, you didn't watch Miami last year, and even if they were enough to carry a good regular season offense, it takes post offense to win in the post season. Miami's already a great defensive team. Who else on the team provides post offense?

Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

Don't need his ball handling and passing, and all the other stuff...Haslem does too.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Now? Hell no...

I actually watched a ton of the Heat last year since my buddy lives down there. I ended up catching a game down there too. Last, but not least, I'm a NBA fantasy basketball nut. It was just an observation on my side. If no deal, then no deal. I would understand why you wouldn't. I just thought more people would.

[Lord Leoshes]

Is the mid lev set at $5mil, & the low lev at $3mil?

[Ballings7]

No, that'd be a pretty bad move... Bosh is the superior talent, and more valuable as a whole on the team.

What kind of skills Noah brings can be filled adequately by a free agent/waivee/small trade...

[DefenseWins]

no

did you remember when the Heat and Bulls were in the final seconds... Noah wasn't even on the floor while Bosh was (game 5). I mean, the guy who was like 45 was in the last seconds, I forgot his name... he use to play for the Heat in the 90s. Big Sexy? LOL something like that. Your most important players should be on the floor... his coach lost faith in him at that time.

Noah can become better, but not only does his emotions sky rocket more than Bosh, it affects his game more.

I'd trade Bosh for Dwight though.... but other than that he's fine.

[EscapoTHB]

Bosh is better than Noah. And we really only need an MLE level player to fill the C spot, and then we're great.

A frontcourt of:
Bosh/Haslem
Dahlembert/Anthony

is better than:
MLE level PF/Haslem
Noah/Anthony

[Lord Leoshes]

The reason I suggested the trade is because IMHO, Wade & LeBron are enough star power/scoring themselves. Bosh may be worth a max contract, but to the Heat, the way they use him, I don't think it'll be worth it to them. Noah would provide rebounding, defense and energy. He's also a good passer and ballhandler as well as rebounder. Plus, he frees up money to sign a good PG and some bench players.

If there are rollbacks, the Heat more than likely are going to have to let one of the big three go through amnesty.

I have a question for you, cause i see this same trade idea at a few other forums i go to.
As a fan of the Bulls, why would you approve this trade?