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Report: Yankees may look to void Giambi's contract 

Post#1 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 2:33 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... eal-2.html

Jason Giambi's admission to USA Today that he once used steroids could lead to the Yankees taking another shot at voiding his contract.

According to baseball sources familiar with the situation who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, the Yankees will revisit the possibility of terminating Giambi's deal if it is determined that he used illegal drugs after they signed him to a seven-year, $120 million contract in 2001.

The commissioner's office is investigating Giambi's comments to the newspaper and will summon him to a meeting to discuss them. What he says in that meeting - or doesn't say - may go a long way toward determining how the Yankees proceed.

Giambi was quoted in USA Today on Friday as saying that he "was wrong for doing that stuff," in reference to having used steroids, and said that "what we should have done a long time ago was stand up - players, owners, everybody - and said: 'We made a mistake.' We should have apologized back then and made sure we had a rule in place and gone forward. ... Steroids and all of that was a part of history. But it was a topic that everybody wanted to avoid. Nobody wanted to talk about it."
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Post#2 » by Wrighteous » Sun May 20, 2007 2:49 pm

F*cking cheater.
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Post#3 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 2:53 pm

Wrighteous wrote:F*cking cheater.


You mean like half the Mets farm system? :D I don't think any Mets fan should have the nerve to take about steroids and cheaters, given the fact that one of their trainers and several of their minor leaguers have been caught swinging. :)
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Post#4 » by Wrighteous » Sun May 20, 2007 2:59 pm

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You mean like half the Mets farm system? :D I don't think any Mets fan should have the nerve to take about steroids and cheaters, given the fact that one of their trainers and several of their minor leaguers have been caught swinging. :)

Are you kidding me?

The trainer was not a dealer for the Mets. The media misrepresented him. Radomski admitted to pushing drugs during the years long after he worked for the Mets.

The few minor leaguers were scrubs who had no shot at the big leagues. They contributed NOTHING to the team's success.
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Post#5 » by Jose7 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:03 pm

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Are you kidding me?

The trainer was not a dealer for the Mets. The media misrepresented him. Radomski admitted to pushing drugs during the years long after he worked for the Mets.

The few minor leaguers were scrubs who had no shot at the big leagues. They contributed NOTHING to the team's success.


Exactly.

Mota on the other hand.. :nonono:
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Post#6 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:04 pm

Wrighteous wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


Are you kidding me?

The trainer was not a dealer for the Mets. The media misrepresented him. Radomski admitted to pushing drugs during the years long after he worked for the Mets.

The few minor leaguers were scrubs who had no shot at the big leagues. They contributed NOTHING to the team's success.


You must have forgotten about Guillermo Mota. :)
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Post#7 » by Wrighteous » Sun May 20, 2007 3:16 pm

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You must have forgotten about Guillermo Mota. :)

But you know Mota took full responsibility and apologized right away. I still hate him though, and was disgusted when the Mets rewarded him with a new contract.
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Post#8 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:21 pm

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But you know Mota took full responsibility and apologized right away. I still hate him though, and was disgusted when the Mets rewarded him with a new contract.


Doesn't matter. I hate the Giambi contract too. He still committed the act. It's funny how it's a different standard for the Mets. :)
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Post#9 » by Slamm Goodbody » Sun May 20, 2007 3:30 pm

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But you know Mota took full responsibility and apologized right away. I still hate him though, and was disgusted when the Mets rewarded him with a new contract.


It doesn't matter. You live in a glass house so don't throw stones. Performance enhancing drugs were and continue to be a huge part of the game, so don't try to single out one player and make him a scapegoat for a league full of users. Conventional anabolic steroids, amphetamines, HGH, hell even the cocaine that was surging through the league (and especially through the Mets clubhouse during the Straw era) for years, all of that stuff was used widely enough that there is no need to act like Giambi is so far below the rest of baseball's standards.

Compare the number of positive tests in the Yankees organization with those of the Mets since actual testing was put in place and don't try to cherry pick the offenders by saying "this guy was a scrub" or "I never liked that guy anyway". Accept that the entire league is culpable in this, not just the Yankees or Giambi. You want to have a problem with steroids users in general, fine, but the guy is clean now and one of the few with a backbone regarding the offense. He only masks his apologies in vagueness because he doesn't want his contract voided. At least he told the truth at the BALCO hearings.
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Re: Report: Yankees may look to void Giambi's contract 

Post#10 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun May 20, 2007 4:25 pm

cmaff051 wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/05/20/2007-05-20_lets_break_a_deal-2.html

Jason Giambi's admission to USA Today that he once used steroids could lead to the Yankees taking another shot at voiding his contract.

According to baseball sources familiar with the situation who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, the Yankees will revisit the possibility of terminating Giambi's deal if it is determined that he used illegal drugs after they signed him to a seven-year, $120 million contract in 2001.

The commissioner's office is investigating Giambi's comments to the newspaper and will summon him to a meeting to discuss them. What he says in that meeting - or doesn't say - may go a long way toward determining how the Yankees proceed.

Giambi was quoted in USA Today on Friday as saying that he "was wrong for doing that stuff," in reference to having used steroids, and said that "what we should have done a long time ago was stand up - players, owners, everybody - and said: 'We made a mistake.' We should have apologized back then and made sure we had a rule in place and gone forward. ... Steroids and all of that was a part of history. But it was a topic that everybody wanted to avoid. Nobody wanted to talk about it."


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Post#11 » by PR07 » Sun May 20, 2007 6:05 pm

I don't mind Giambi in pinstripes, but if we could void his deal and get a younger more productive slugger with the money we're paying him...I'd be all for it.
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Post#12 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:15 pm

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Doesn't matter. I hate the Giambi contract too. He still committed the act. It's funny how it's a different standard for the Mets. :)


what double standard?
any cheater deserves what he gets.

bonds, sheffield, giambi, (clemens) mota etc.

difference here is that we dont have guys being paid 20+million/year on our team cheating.
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Post#13 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 6:23 pm

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what double standard?
any cheater deserves what he gets.

bonds, sheffield, giambi, (clemens) mota etc.

difference here is that we dont have guys being paid 20+million/year on our team cheating.


Atleast our cheaters are big time producers, unlike Mota, who is a scrub that is making 3 million next year and isn't even any good.

Showenweiss, Mota... good job giving bad contracts to bad relievers, Omar. :)
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Post#14 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:26 pm

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Atleast our cheaters are big time producers, unlike Mota, who is a scrub that is making 3 million next year and isn't even any good.

Showenweiss, Mota... good job giving bad contracts to bad relievers, Omar. :)


quoted for unworthiness.

atleast our cheaters are producers? so now we applaud cheaters if they are producers and not 97mph scrubs? ok. now i really realize why its pointless arguing with you. typical arrogant yankees fan.
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Post#15 » by NYKnSTILL! » Sun May 20, 2007 6:38 pm

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quoted for unworthiness.

atleast our cheaters are producers? so now we applaud cheaters if they are producers and not 97mph scrubs? ok. now i really realize why its pointless arguing with you. typical arrogant yankees fan.


wait a minute it's your GM who resigned Mota wasn't it ? so don't get high and mighty here

P.S. your farm system has how many steroid users ?
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Post#16 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:50 pm

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wait a minute it's your GM who resigned Mota wasn't it ? so don't get high and mighty here

P.S. your farm system has how many steroid users ?


hwo the **** am i getting high and mighty?

i denounced all cheaters.

he said that atleast his cheaters are producing? is that not justifying their actions?
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Post#17 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 6:55 pm

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hwo the **** am i getting high and mighty?

i denounced all cheaters.

he said that atleast his cheaters are producing? is that not justifying their actions?


Don't try to back out of this, tough guy.

You said this

difference here is that we dont have guys being paid 20+million/year on our team cheating.


Yes, we have one guy on our team who is making $20 million and he cheated. But atleast he is worth that $20 million, unlike Mota, who has been a scrub for going on 3 years now and he was rewarded with $3 million dollar contract.
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Post#18 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:56 pm

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Yes, we have one guy on our team who is making $20 million and he cheated. But atleast he is worth that $20 million, unlike Mota, who has been a scrub for going on 3 years now and he was rewarded with $3 million dollar contract.


im not backing out of ****.
you said atleast your cheaters produce.

i said that this is terrible logic because this glorifies and justifies cheaters- and that is WRONG.

thats the POINT.

edit:
bonds gets paid what? 15 million this year?
this idea that cheaters who are losers dont get resigned is stupid. at the end of the day baseball knows fans will overlook this. this is why players like mota get resigned, and sheff and giambi will get new deals when theirs runs out.
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Post#19 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 7:02 pm

gooGD wrote:im not backing out of ****.
you said atleast your cheaters produce.


Isn't that better than your cheater, who is a complete scrub and is getting paid $3 million.

There is no high road here. You have a steroid user on your team. We have a steroid user on our team. The only difference is that our steroid user is actually good.

i said that this is terrible logic because this glorifies and justifies cheaters- and that is WRONG.

I never glorified cheaters. When did I ever do that? Learn how to read tough guy.

thats the POINT.

You have made very few points in your "rants", and when you have they have been unintelligible because you have no idea how to use a keyboard.

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bonds gets paid what? 15 million this year?
this idea that cheaters who are losers dont get resigned is stupid. at the end of the day baseball knows fans will overlook this. this is why players like mota get resigned, and sheff and giambi will get new deals when theirs runs out.

And you guys signed a known cheater... Mota... who isn't very good. :rofl:
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Post#20 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 7:10 pm

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And you guys signed a known cheater... Mota... who isn't very good. :rofl:


well.. pre roids he throws 97 with a good changeup. hes a career relief pitcher who is jsut that, doesnt have enough versatitlity to be a starter. there arent that many good relief pitchers out there. end of story- most of them look bad numbers wise.
cmaff051 wrote:Isn't that better than your cheater, who is a complete scrub and is getting paid $3 million.

There is no high road here. You have a steroid user on your team. We have a steroid user on our team. The only difference is that our steroid user is actually good.


what **** highroad?
you have a cheater just like my cheater. and i said all cheaters are losers. it shouldnt matter that they make 20 million or 3 million. you brought money into the argument.

im sorry, but in my opinion when you said atleast my cheaters produce over yours, thats glorifying.


im done arguing with this board and you. its impossible. im glad that whoever reads my posts know that i was definitely being fair and unbiased. some of you guys are literally impossible. tonight is a big game for you guys, lets hope you can win so you can parade it up and feel like winners for a night.

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