5 pressing issues for bobcats - bonnell

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:56 pm

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... bcats.html

1. kwame's free agency
2. biz contract status
3. hendo's health
4. getting kemba up to speed
5. maggette

i would like to add a few more
6. boris' weight
7. figuring out who will be our pg
8. tyrus, everything tyrus

Battery · Post #2 » by **Battery** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:02 pm

Issue #1- How to look great but lose every game so we end up with a top 3 pick in the draft.

Then next summer we will be in prime position with lots of cap/roster flexibility as some of our stiffs we will start coming off the books and it will be easy to dump/buy out Carroll and Diop. And Kemba and Biz will have a year under their belts along with an improved Hendo.

doc.end · Post #3 » by **doc.end** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:04 pm

I don't get how he can write what he wrote in the Maggette paragraph and count it as a pressing issue at the same time. Too needy for an attracting headline?

0. Figuring out who Bobcats should draft and how to get a draft pick good enough. - It's really just about that as we have made reset last season and draft. Because of that I think short season is a goo thing for us, as rookies should have take time adjusting to new level and we will be kind of inexperience heavy team anyway. Although Kemba might be one of the more ready rookies, Bismack as every blocker would have to adjust NBA refereeing at least plus there is an contract issue. Any short- term pressing issue is actually irrelevant of beneficial for us this season. As long as it doesn't crawl into next seasons and won't become a long term issue. So:

1. Kwame is a nice piece to have but not essential to our long term plans, in addition he would love to play for Silas again so that's more of an issue on paper than in reality I guess.
2. That could become a serious issue if he coudln't play. Big issue if that wouldn't be over after this upcoming season.
3. Every surgery is an issue, hopefully this won't affect him in future at all.
4. Non-issue. As long as he won't crumble like Morrison, he could take as long as he wants to adjust in this season. Quick start would be good for establishing himself to get calls (in the future) though.
5. Non-issue. His record of not making playoffs is a positive thing. It's not like we have someone who should get his minutes at SF not we have a clear cut first option to take his shots. Let him be the man, the stopgap man.

6. An issue. Unlike Maggette, we are crowded at PF. Everything making him a tradeable asset wold be most welcomed.
7. Issue, mainly if it is going to be unresolved in next season too. I am not convinced Augustin and Walker can't be on the same team though.
8. Real issue.

Post #4 » by **fatlever** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:07 pm

Battery wrote:Issue #1- How to look great but lose every game so we end up with a top 3 pick in the draft.

they need to talk to the panthers about this. cam looks great, games are entertaining, we found a superstar and we are still losing a ton of games. panthers will still have top 5 pick next season and for once we dont have to worry about drafting a qb.

i would love to see kemba and biz make the all rookie team and we lose enough to finish in bottom 5.

watch this be the year we magically start out hot and make an improbably run at the playoffs before we finally realize we suck and fade out in the last month finishing 9th in the east.

doc.end · Post #5 » by **doc.end** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:29 pm

I hope Maggette was acquired to do just that. Although they called him Bad Porn for a reason.

And
9. although Bobcats can do a little to help themselves with that, it is quite important to see Portland Trailblazers fade in upcoming seasons. I already spotted them to be called among losers of the new deal. We just can hope they would have a bad season and right lottery luck in the tight season. On the other hand I would want Crash to have something to play for and not be trapped on a bad team. If Blazers fail qucikly and start trading we may be among teams to offer a "helping hand" moreover because Cho surely has a lot of info.

Battery · Post #6 » by **Battery** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:52 pm

fatlever wrote:
Battery wrote:Issue #1- How to look great but lose every game so we end up with a top 3 pick in the draft.

they need to talk to the panthers about this. cam looks great, games are entertaining, we found a superstar and we are still losing a ton of games. panthers will still have top 5 pick next season and for once we dont have to worry about drafting a qb.

i would love to see kemba and biz make the all rookie team and we lose enough to finish in bottom 5.

watch this be the year we magically start out hot and make an improbably run at the playoffs before we finally realize we suck and fade out in the last month finishing 9th in the east.

Exactly! The Panthers have been very exciting this season (Cam's shocked the hell out of me) and doing just enough to lose and land a great pick. That is my ideal scenario for the Bobcats.

Kemba and Biz learn how to play their respective positions, add some excitement by keeping games close and we end up 10-56.

On the radio they call the Panthers the "Close Cats" :lol:

because every game they are close to winning. That's what we need to be this season.

And that would suck if we were to get the ninth pick. grrrrr We are in prime position the next 2 summers because we finally have the stiffs coming off our roster so this year it is incredibly important we land a top pick. We need to aim high and lose lots of games.

Stun704 · Post #7 » by **Stun704** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:01 pm

like battery said, play great but lose games with harrison barnes, anthony davis in mind

SWedd523 · Post #8 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:09 pm

"Play great, lose anyway!"

I think I can get behind that

captaincrunk · Post #9 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 7:44 pm

Battery wrote:Issue #1- How to look great but lose every game so we end up with a top 3 pick in the draft.

Then next summer we will be in prime position with lots of cap/roster flexibility as some of our stiffs we will start coming off the books and it will be easy to dump/buy out Carroll and Diop. And Kemba and Biz will have a year under their belts along with an improved Hendo.

Battery "All I do is lose" Jackson does it again.

Battery · Post #10 » by **Battery** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:57 pm

captaincrunk wrote:
Battery wrote:Issue #1- How to look great but lose every game so we end up with a top 3 pick in the draft.

Then next summer we will be in prime position with lots of cap/roster flexibility as some of our stiffs we will start coming off the books and it will be easy to dump/buy out Carroll and Diop. And Kemba and Biz will have a year under their belts along with an improved Hendo.

Battery "All I do is lose" Jackson does it again.

Absolutely! We're about building a team that can compete for a championship. We need great players. I guess you're in favor of the let's play to squeak into the playoffs approach every season. yay. :roll:

Post #11 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:01 pm

SWEDD523 wrote:"Play great, lose anyway!"

I think I can get behind that

Battery · Post #12 » by **Battery** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:56 pm

BigSlam wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:"Play great, lose anyway!"

I think I can get behind that

Post #13 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:16 pm

Battery wrote:
BigSlam wrote:
SWEDD523 wrote:"Play great, lose anyway!"

I think I can get behind that

Hey man, I've never wanted to deliberately suck or play under ourselves (eg: tank games) to TRY and get a better draft position but fact is our team is weak as **** right now so we can't expect to make the playoffs.

The silver lining is we are built to be weak as **** rather than to try and make the playoffs - which I understand and dig. We don't have the Wallaces and the Jacksons etc.

The other thing is that that we have a boat load of young'ins to look forward to. DJ, Kemba, Hendo, Tyrus, White, Cunningham, Biz - they are all reasons to keep on watching no matter the result (and providing the play hard and to the best of their ability).

captaincrunk · Post #14 » by **captaincrunk** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:34 pm

I already explained the difference between hoping we lose a game and hoping we get a good draft position in another thread. No group of players will go out there and intentionally lose games.

SWedd523 · Post #15 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:55 pm

BigSlam wrote:Hey man, I've never wanted to deliberately suck or play under ourselves (eg: tank games) to TRY and get a better draft position but fact is our team is weak as **** right now so we can't expect to make the playoffs.

The silver lining is we are built to be weak as **** rather than to try and make the playoffs - which I understand and dig. We don't have the Wallaces and the Jacksons etc.

The other thing is that that we have a boat load of young'ins to look forward to. DJ, Kemba, Hendo, Tyrus, White, Cunningham, Biz - they are all reasons to keep on watching no matter the result (and providing the play hard and to the best of their ability).

That's the whole concept of the little slogan I made.

I don't want them to suck, I want them to go out there and play their asses off while growing and improving as a team. But chances are, we don't have the combination of talent and experience too make us a great team... which I'm totally fine with.

And if a few of those last second shots decide they want to go in for the other team... so be it :wink:

ohara · Post #16 » by **ohara** » Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:56 pm

I just cant find a way to want to lose. Have to pull for a win every game. As much as I would covet a top 3 pick, I want to make the playoffs. Of course, if we do, our 1st round pick goes to Chicago, so we get none of the quality players coming out in the 2012 Draft. It is a nasty situation. But thankfully, we wont have to worry about it. This team is young. They will lose more than they win.

Elden Payton · Post #17 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:07 am

Bonnell with a decent article again, agreed that some of them are pressing issues(Biz,Hendo & Tyrus)

I think we need to tank by throwing Kemba & Biz(if he plays) to the wolves so to speak.

As Crunk stated in the post above no team will go out & deliberately lose...especially one under Silas.

Post #18 » by **fatlever** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:59 am

lets be clear, in the heat of the moment, i generally find it impossible for me not to root for the bobcats to win. its more of an after game reflection that will make me appreciate the great game but also see the benefit from staying away from the playoffs.

not since our first year have we had a team that was so bad that we knew we had zero chance of the playoffs to start the year. even under those 2-3 years under bernie we played well enough, at times, and had enough hope to think it was possible to sneak into an 8th seed.

rooting for tanking when you are in 9th place is not something i can accept. this year will be different.

Elden Payton · Post #19 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:05 am

fatlever wrote:lets be clear, in the heat of the moment, i generally find it impossible for me not to root for the bobcats to win. its more of an after game reflection that will make me appreciate the great game but also see the benefit from staying away from the playoffs.

not since our first year have we had a team that was so bad that we knew we had zero chance of the playoffs to start the year. even under those 2-3 years under bernie we played well enough, at times, and had enough hope to think it was possible to sneak into an 8th seed.

rooting for tanking when you are in 9th place is not something i can accept. this year will be different.

Yeah we've already thrown the baby out with the bath water with last season's trades, it's too late now not to be optimistic about being a high lottery team.

Eoghan · Post #20 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:32 am

Yeah, Kemba and Biz need to play lots of minutes this year. No doubt about it.