Free Agency

[Pacersike]

Who do you want back and who do you want to add to the team?

Back
Jeff Foster

Add
David West
Grant Hill or Shane Battier

Wildcard
Greg Oden
If there is a tiny chance he can get back healthy.
Josh McRoberts
If he is willing to accept third string money and role.

[frizzledizzle]

The only players I'd consider bringing back are McRoberts and Foster.

Depending on how much they cost, I would like to add Kwame Brown, Samuel Dalembert or Reggie Evans. Starting to worry how much Foster will actually be available given his age and back problems. Although, Reggie Evans has had injury problems of his own. Just want to have an extra big man that can come in and rebound off the bench. Or worst case scenario, fill in and start if Hibbert or Hans get hurt.

Personally, I think McRoberts is a must to bring back unless some other team is going to overpay him. If he can be re-signed cheap, he's a bargain imo.

[Val Holliday]

David West or Nene

2-3 of:

Tayshaun Prince
Shane Battier
Chuck Hayes
Josh McRoberts

[basketballwacko2]

I want Foster and McBob back in Pacers uniforms and a guy like Kwame would be a nice defensive addition all to these guys shouldn't cost more than $3 million each Foster a 1 yr deal, I'd give McBob $3.3 mill increasing 10% over 3 ys with a team option 4th, Kwame I'd go about $3 million.

If Oden has any chance of playing again I'd sign him, he's a Indy guy good for team image.

David West is gonn cost a lot not sure he has the size I'd like at PF.

We do have Hansbro at PF so we really need depth.

[Grang33r]

Nobody listed a shooting guard? Really?

We need to get a big, thats for sure. I wouldn't overpay for one though, and David West will cost $10 million per season. That is kinda pricey for me. He isn't an elite player, he's a star. As Mike Wells has pointed out, i think our option for a big is via trade. Where we take on a salary plus the big, and give up next years first round pick. We're a young team and don't really need the pick. Someone like Paul Millsap is who i would target.

But, we've needed a shooting guard for a while. We don't have pure shooters. Brandon Rush is garbage. We've tried to go and get OJ Mayo and failed. So we already know our weakness, and against the Bulls, we had the lead in every game, and when we were desperate to get points, nobody stepped up. We need that shooter, that extra way of scoring. So, i vote we go and try to sign Jason Richardson.

A veteran, and a pure shooter with speed who can play uptempo with George and Collison.

[Ruhiel]

stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
RT @wisetyler: if you had to predict one trade/signing, what would it be? ---> David West to the Indiana Pacers.

[Indy2thaWindy]

Nobody listed a shooting guard? Really?

We need to get a big, thats for sure. I wouldn't overpay for one though, and David West will cost $10 million per season. That is kinda pricey for me. He isn't an elite player, he's a star. As Mike Wells has pointed out, i think our option for a big is via trade. Where we take on a salary plus the big, and give up next years first round pick. We're a young team and don't really need the pick. Someone like Paul Millsap is who i would target.

But, we've needed a shooting guard for a while. We don't have pure shooters. Brandon Rush is garbage. We've tried to go and get OJ Mayo and failed. So we already know our weakness, and against the Bulls, we had the lead in every game, and when we were desperate to get points, nobody stepped up. We need that shooter, that extra way of scoring. So, i vote we go and try to sign Jason Richardson.

A veteran, and a pure shooter with speed who can play uptempo with George and Collison.

There are literally no minutes left at shooting guard. Between Paul, George, Lance, Dahntay, and Brandon. We only have two bigs under contract. We can sign Jeff. Josh will probably get some money elsewhere. He's talented, but not the kind of big we need. If we miss out on both Nene and West, we gotta go the trade route. Landry doesn't give us everything we need and Humphries is garbage.

Bring back Jeff at $3-$4 million.

Bring in one of Nene, West, or maybe a Millsap. $7-$13 million

That's $10-$17 million this season added to our cap, if Foster plays past this season, then that eats into our cap next year. Then let's say we get Nene for $13 million this year. It will be $14 million next year. McRoberts or one of the SG will be looking for multi year deals that will eat into next year's capspace and the money we'll use use to bring back Hibbert and Hill. That's the 2nd worse thing we could do. The worst obviously being signing Humphries or Murphy.

It's possible to have all of

Granger
Nene
Hibbert
George
Hill
Hansbrough
Collison
Jones

and still be able to afford a max player while being under the lux. Use the amnesty on Dahntay and likely the max position would be point guard, maybe? Trade Collison. Open up $5 million fill our roster out.

Max player/Hill
George/Hill
Granger/George
Nene/Hansbrough
Hibbert/Nene

Have a 7 core-man group, and can fill the rest of the team out with the $5-$7 million we have left and still be under the luxury tax. And if we're winning I don't see why Simon wouldn't go into the lux.

Probably not gonna happen, but entirely possible and one of the many ways we could go if we don't blow our capspace on unnecessary players like McRoberts or shooting guards we don't have room for.

[Grang33r]

There are literally no minutes left at shooting guard. Between Paul, George, Lance, Dahntay, and Brandon. We only have two bigs under contract. We can sign Jeff. Josh will probably get some money elsewhere. He's talented, but not the kind of big we need. If we miss out on both Nene and West, we gotta go the trade route. Landry doesn't give us everything we need and Humphries is garbage.

No minutes at SG? Says who? Indiana must be thinking otherwise because they tried to land a shooting guard last trade deadline day and our lack of shooting guards was a vital point of weakness in the Bulls series. Dahntay Jones has been nothing special. Lance Stephenson... will he even play? And Brandon Rush could be traded on December 9th for several basketballs for all we know.

[laydo]

I don't think shooting guard is what the Pacers need right now since Paul George will start as SG and George Hill could play both guards position.


The first thing to do for the Pacer is to upgrade their PF. That's for sure. As what Bob Kravitz said, trading for Milsap would be a good move, since he is only 26, and his contract is quite reasonable. However, I don't think the Jazz would let Milsap go only by getting Brandon Rush and a 1st round pick. Also, the draft next year looks pretty deep.


I'd prefer to land Nene. Nene has been working out in San Antonio with Hibbert and Hill during the summer, which increase the probability to land him here. His aggressiveness and athleticism is what the Pacers just need. The combination of Nene, Hibbert, and Hansbrough could really impact the East Conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kow8XYgVKBI


The next thing to do after upgrading the PF is try to extend Hibbert's contract. The new CBA allows each team to extend only one rookie contract at a time. Amount the expiring rookie contracts, Hibbert is the main core player of the Pacers. So it's better to lock him this year than letting him test the FA next summer, when there are many team has salary cap.

[Val Holliday]

Yeah I'm assuming Stephenson joins the rotation this year, and if they don't amnesty/trade Jones I don't see a reason to pursue a SG, let alone Jason Richardson who needs to stay far away from this team.

[Indy2thaWindy]

The new CBA allows each team to extend only one rookie contract at a time.

Huh? Is this true? Maybe only for teams over the cap. That screws us because Hill will be up for an extension too. That will screw teams like Cavs and Jazz also. Jazz have two lottery picks from a year ago and two lottery picks this year. I can't see the owners allowing that.

[laydo]

The new CBA allows each team to extend only one rookie contract at a time.

Huh? Is this true? Maybe only for teams over the cap. That screws us because Hill will be up for an extension too. That will screw teams like Cavs and Jazz also. Jazz have two lottery picks from a year ago and two lottery picks this year. I can't see the owners allowing that.

Ooops, maybe I wasn't clear enough.

By extending a only one rookie contract at a time, I mean each team can olny extend one player who's in his rookie contract if his contract is going to expired next year. Teams can still resign their young players next summer.

Take the Pacers for instance, Hibbert, Hill and Rush are in thier rookie contracts now and will be expired next summer. The Pacers could only extend one of them now, with max extensions of 5 years. The rest of them could still be resigned back to Indiana, but not until next summer.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/11/26/tentative.deal/index.html
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B_JqVMjKAfLYNzU3YzVlNDAtMDBlOS00Y2UwLWE5ZTItM2RkZTdjN2FmMzI4&hl=en_US
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[Grang33r]

The first thing to do for the Pacer is to upgrade their PF. That's for sure. As what Bob Kravitz said, trading for Milsap would be a good move, since he is only 26, and his contract is quite reasonable. However, I don't think the Jazz would let Milsap go only by getting Brandon Rush and a 1st round pick. Also, the draft next year looks pretty deep.[/url]

Let's not get crazy here, because I agree, the priority needs to be a big man. But, Larry Bird already said he won't over spend this season for a big man, so, pretty much he said Nene and West are off our charts. Mike Wells suggested any move for a PF will come via trade. When a reporter with insider capabilities says that, i tend to think it's more then just his thinking, but a "educated comment" of sorts. And i don't believe we can land Millsap either, but, Wells said teams had held talks at the deadline for Millsap. Wheres theres smoke, theres fire. I just hope they are smart with how they use the $$ and not spend it to the max on the wrong player.

But I still believe shooting guard depth is a need also.

[Boneman2]

Bring in one of Nene, West, or maybe a Millsap. $7-$13 million

One out of three ain't bad.... but two is better.

I think Millsap is the way to go. I'd offer Collison and Posey.

Regardless, I'd still pursue Nene to possibly replace Hibbert.

[Indy2thaWindy]

The first thing to do for the Pacer is to upgrade their PF. That's for sure. As what Bob Kravitz said, trading for Milsap would be a good move, since he is only 26, and his contract is quite reasonable. However, I don't think the Jazz would let Milsap go only by getting Brandon Rush and a 1st round pick. Also, the draft next year looks pretty deep.[/url]

Let's not get crazy here, because I agree, the priority needs to be a big man. But, Larry Bird already said he won't over spend this season for a big man, so, pretty much he said Nene and West are off our charts. Mike Wells suggested any move for a PF will come via trade. When a reporter with insider capabilities says that, i tend to think it's more then just his thinking, but a "educated comment" of sorts. And i don't believe we can land Millsap either, but, Wells said teams had held talks at the deadline for Millsap. Wheres theres smoke, theres fire. I just hope they are smart with how they use the $$ and not spend it to the max on the wrong player.

But I still believe shooting guard depth is a need also.

West and Nene are very much on the Pacers radar. Nobody's going to say "Yeah, were going to overpay him. He's not worth his contract, but we want him." Well, maybe the Tampa Bay Bucs would, but that makes you look like an idiot and could possibly offend the player you're after.

Management wants too see what our shooting guards can do. They just traded a 1st round pick for one while we drafted two more last year. Three of the players looking for time at the 2 are in contract years. It doesn't make sense to bring another player who will take minutes from those players that the front office will be looking at trying to decide if they will be a part of our future or not.

[Grang33r]

Speaking of Brandon Rush... http://www.shotofginn.com/2011/11/brand ... acers.html

wow.

[Indy2thaWindy]

Him and TJ get a lot of hate. TJ handles it much better tho. TJ never got a fair shot. He was actually really good his first year here, and stepped up when the team needed him to. Brandon was also good his 1st year here. He just didn't show much improvement afterwards. At least he learned how to knock down a shot off the dribble and stop being a puss when attacking the rim after 3 years here.

[Pacersike]

Speaking of Brandon Rush... http://www.shotofginn.com/2011/11/brand ... acers.html

wow.

I would first like to read what they texted him and to be really fair what he had to read about himself in all those years. Ok, there are better ways to deal with it but often it are the ones who haven't accomplished anything in life themselves who start to pick on famous people and their bad habits.

But I still believe shooting guard depth is a need also.

An upgrade is what we need, depth not really.
We have 3 young studs waiting to proove themselves at that position. I count Stephenson as well.
With Rush and Jones to step in if necessary.
Also, there is a very popular Indiana native waiting at the horizon.

Plus all the good ones are restricted.

[Val Holliday]

Rush goes on for hours with people, and nothing particularly offensive is said in his regard that I see. It's all still on his twitter.

[Miller4ever]

If that's not hacked, then get this guy the hell off our team.