Amnesty clause-sixerfan1976

[cheolee]

Both teams have shown interest in a trade. Sixers have Turner and would like to give him the keys and see what kind of player he can become. They are looking for young players with good potential to grown with Holiday, Turner, Nikola, Young. The Rockets have a stable of young players that fits the bill and can help reduce payroll. The team will have some growing pains but they will probably get another high draft pick this year to fill out their roster.

Iggy and Speights
for
Patterson, Flynn, Thabeet, Lee

[ankle420breaker]

We have no need for Flynn or Lee and Thabeet hasn't done anything yet. We'd pass.

[Foshan]

I think it would take 2 of <Patterson, Morris, Monti, 1st> to get Iggy to Hou, lol 3 of which are PFs.

As far as some other things mentioned in this thread...

Not a big fan of signing Prince at all. Dude looked a step slow defensively last year, and thats pretty much all he was good for. It's not like he's getting any younger. And I'm not even sure he'd take the MLE to come here if a contender offered him the same deal.

As far as KMart/Monta for Iggy, I think they are lateral moves for all teams involved, and I'm not sure Collins would enjoy coaching either guy (no-D/ball hog).

While I'm not a fan of tanking, this does seem like a good year to be at the top of the draft class, assuming the guys can come out.

[76ciology]

No way Lakers trade Bynum for Iggy. Bynum is their only tradable asset to acquire major pieces to make them more competitive. (i.e. D12 or CP3)

I also don't see Kmart for Iggy happening. It just doesn't make sense for the Rockets. They'd be better off trading K-Mart for something they need like for a defensive presene at the C position. And K-mart wouldn't solve our ball duty problems. Remember that the Kings had trouble sharing the ball between Tyreke and Kmart.

Monta is a bad fit for this team, defensively. We don't have a solid defensive frontcourt to shoulder Monta's deficiency on defense.

[76ciology]

Added Collins: "Sometimes what gets lost with that amnesty is that you're still spending the money ... give him $35 million just to go bye bye. You're still paying him the cash."

Ah hah! $35million. Sounds like EB42.

[Mahorn at the 4]

Sixerfan,

Are there any legs to the Louis Williams talk?

Any names being offered for Iguodala?

[sixerfan1976]

they arent trading Lou

iguodala nothing new from what i told ya yesterday.

they arent pressured to move him. it has to make basketball sense as they say.

If Hawes gets any multi year offer in restricted free agency, they will let him walk. If he doesnt get an offer, he will be here for a year at $4 MM and then walk.

[Gsraider]

Hey Sixerfan, did your buddy give you any indication as to what the Sixers' brass views as a "reasonable" offer that they would match as it relates to T. Young? In essence, how far would they go to keep him?

[Kova]

SF76
And if Hawes gets multi year deal somewhere else, who will be our starting center? Do we trade for one or sign some cheap veteran..?

[sixerfan1976]

no on on specifics for thad, but he is going to be here. they are really confident of that.


they are going to acquire a center regardless of what happens with hawes. if hawes goes elsewhere.....i doubt there is a market for him by the way..but if it goes somewhere.......maybe they see if Vucevic is ready to contribute this year or battie again or someone like him as a backup. Hawes is viewed as their backup center this year if he is here.

[Kova]

Ok, thanks.. Well at least we are moving somewhere.. We won't have the same team as last year for sure..

[Gsraider]

No matter what else transpires, the realization that Hawes is a backup center is already a step in the right direction. I read somewhere that Hawes really worked hard on his body and conditioning this off-season, so perhaps that can help his speed and hops, but I will believe that when I see it. Barring some kind of miracle like that, he is a nice option as a backup, but weak as a starter. Not sure that Kwame excites me as a replacement, but at least he does some more of the things that Philly could use and has a very big body. I guess we'll have to pray that Vucevic was a steal, but he too seems an awful lot like Hawes on paper.

[P2K]

I've been convinced since last year that Iguodala will remain a Sixer until his contract runs out or at least the All Star break of his final year. The franchise asks for too much in return, it seems like they know they're asking for too much and if they don't get what they want, they keep holding onto this guy like he's gold. Very disappointing.

[sixerfan1976]

yeah hawes is basically here for one year if he is here...otherwise he isnt.

They dont want to rush Vucevic this year..especially with no full training camp.

Expectation is he plays a bigger role next year.

[P2K]

yeah hawes is basically here for one year if he is here...otherwise he isnt.

They dont want to rush Vucevic this year..especially with no full training camp.

Expectation is he plays a bigger role next year.

If he's already been playing overseas and with the talent (or lack there of) in our frontcourt, Vucevic better play a big role this season. There should be no excuse for him not to do something this season. He's not 18-19 years old and there's no one in front of him to stunt his progress. Get him out there to contribute.

[FlightBrothers]

on a side note, here we go again with superteams. Whether or not this can be pulled off its great for the league that Chris Paul is now asking specifically to be traded to the Knicks. I was hoping the new CBA would help to prevent this and it probably won't happen, but still...


You should be lucky to have 1 superstar on your team let alone 2. This consolidating of the superstars needed to be more strongly addressed in this CBA. I would have loved to see a franchise tag like the NFL.

anyways back to the topic, I like Iggy, but I just want a fresh start, just like I would want to see the Eagles and Andy Reid split apart just to get a fresh start there too. Sometimes a change is best for the team and somtimes its best for the fan base to reinvigorate them and get some enthusiasm again behind the team.

[LongLiveHinkie]

As everyone talks trade, I just get angrier and angrier at this joke of a league. Why wasn't that asinine 25% trade rule removed? I can't stand the NBA anymore. You can't sign anyone, you can't trade anyone. All these ridiculous rules that restrict movement.

I am not happy the NBA is back to say the least. It's a horrible league anymore.

That said, if I'm going to watch this team play at all this season it would be ideal if Iguodala isn't on the court. I don't know if I could stand another season of this dude trying to play hero in the last 5 minutes of games. Taking off balance 3 pointers with 15 seconds left on the shot clock, driving into a crowded lane while trying to use awkward crossovers and spin moves that he isn't coordinated enough to do. His jumper arcs so high in the air that one jumper from him alone eats 5 seconds off the shot clock.

[KrazySixersD]

they are exploring trades of iguodala for a center or a SG. If they get a center, they want to sign tayshaun prince for the midlevel. If they get a SG, they want Kwame Brown.

They want meeks to be the backup SG and turner to start....envisioning instant offense off the bench of Lou,meeks and Young(and probably Hawes). If they acquire a SG, they have no problem with Turner starting at SF.

Speights will be gone shortly after transactions are allowed. The return is not expected to be much. They are comfortable with Allen,Vucevic,Brackins as the backup big men other than Hawes. Nocioni will either be amnesty'd or bought out. He doesnt want to be here.

Their first target at SG is kevin martin, Monta is 2nd, but front office folks question whether he fits here.. Wesley Matthews is of interest to them but that one would probably take a three teamer to do. They also like Batum but Portland doesnt want to move him. They envision Martin as the perfect fit here but no idea if the Rockets are open to moving him.

I dont know any names at center, but I agree with others that Utah may be a fit.(just my opinion)

wow this is a GREAT post in terms of good news lol... this is almost identical to what i would do..

kwame is who i want at center for this team, he is an upgrade for this team in rebounding and post defense. he also has decent post moves inside.

if we traded iggy it would make perfect sense to sign prince... he is a great defensive player who does not need to shoot alot or handle the ball. he would fit perfectly with jrue and turner.

both of those SG's i like as well for this team... im excited... hope something happens sooner rather than later

[Mik317]

Doesn't Collins hate Kwame?

Also according to Woj we are looking at Boki Nacbar aka the Dalembert Killer

[sixerfan1976]

Nachbar is a SF isnt he? Potential guy off bench at SF is my guess. They arent real deep at SF with Kapono and Nocioni gone.