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Jamal Crawford 

Post#1 » by chube » Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:20 pm

If we land him, we will be staaaaaaaaaacked on the wing/backcourt.

Danny, Paul, DC, George Hill, Jamal, and even Dahntay is a nice piece. I would welcome his shot-making ability (as long as we don't have to overpay, since he is almost 32), but we need more help defensively, especially stopping the wing (Derrick Rose and Kyle Korver proved that in the playoffs.) And as long as this doesn't eat into the cap or get in the way of eventually strengthening out front-court, I'm okay with it.

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Post#2 » by mizzoupacers » Fri Dec 2, 2011 8:45 pm

My memory of the Chicago series is that the biggest problem the Pacers had was getting killed on the boards, not by Korver. (Rose is going to score on anybody.)

So I'd much rather see the Pacers spend their money on frontcourt help. I think the backcourt is fine with the addition of George Hill and the untapped potential of Paul George and maybe Stephenson too. But, whatever...I'd be OK with adding Jamal Crawford as long as his contract isn't ridiculous.
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Post#3 » by Pacersike » Fri Dec 2, 2011 9:33 pm

No thoughts. Just LOL.

Don't like him at all. Bad shot selection, ball hog, bad defender.
I would take a player like George Hill over him anyday and look for more scoring with other players.
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Post#4 » by Val Holliday » Fri Dec 2, 2011 10:04 pm

agreed with the above posts. no thank you.
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Post#5 » by dennis_mora91 » Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:39 pm

I don't like Jamal neither i prefer more minutes to Paul George as SG
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Post#6 » by Reginald Wayne » Fri Dec 2, 2011 11:46 pm

The Pacers blew two games against Chicago because they have no clutch players. I'm sure crawfor would come in handy in those situations.
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Post#7 » by Indy2thaWindy » Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:00 am

Reginald Wayne wrote:The Pacers blew two games against Chicago because they have no clutch players. I'm sure crawfor would come in handy in those situations.


That and because Darren Collison and AJ Price thought it would be smart to keep leaving Korver open for 3.
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Post#8 » by Val Holliday » Sat Dec 3, 2011 12:16 am

How is an inefficient scorer supposed to help us in the clutch?

We're rather fortunate to have Granger as our resident "chucker", most teams have it much worse.

Though we did have to suffer through James Posey before Vogel took over.
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Post#9 » by Gremz » Sat Dec 3, 2011 1:03 am

I wouldn't say no to a guy who can create his own shot.
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Post#10 » by Starkiller » Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:29 am

I see no problems w/ Jamal Crawford as a 6th man. If the backcourt of our 2nd unit is George Hill/Jamaal Crawford, I don't see anyone in the NBA rivaling that.
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Post#11 » by laydo » Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:48 am

Starkiller wrote:I see no problems w/ Jamal Crawford as a 6th man. If the backcourt of our 2nd unit is George Hill/Jamaal Crawford, I don't see anyone in the NBA rivaling that.


Totally agree. Especially with the season is shortened, there will be more games per week. Any team who have deeper roster will have more advantage.
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Post#12 » by Grang33r » Sat Dec 3, 2011 3:20 am

I got blasted for suggesting we needed a SG prior to all the rumors coming out. At the time, i was thinking something smaller, i think i suggested Jason Richardson. Those opposed to him i just don't understand your logic. The Pacers looked like deer in head lights so often in big games last season in the 4th quarter, when the games got tighter, we rarely could produce our own shot. This was very evident against the Bulls in the playoffs. Most of our offensive series it seemed nobody wanted the ball, nobody wanted to take that shot (including Granger). Crawford does that. He will want the ball. That will make defenses play different against us and put much less pressure on Granger and also George.

As Mike Wells said, if they get Crawford, he'll be a backup, but, he will be on the court with George Hill and Granger to finish games off.
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Post#13 » by Indy2thaWindy » Sat Dec 3, 2011 5:42 am

PG should be taking the final shots.

DC should never be allowed on the floor in the 4th quarter.
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Post#14 » by Pacersike » Sat Dec 3, 2011 9:21 am

Crawford thinks he is in the final minute every time he touches the ball.
He also shot 0.33 from the field in the playoffs against the Bulls and is below 0.4 in his career.

For every big shot he makes, he screws up 2 times.
Yeah, we need a clutch player, but I hope we will find a better one.
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Post#15 » by 8305 » Sat Dec 3, 2011 2:56 pm

Pacers do struggle finding shots at the end of games and Crawford can create his shot. He's hit big shots against us down through the years. Five guys (Granger, George, Crawford, Hill and Collison) would be a pretty decent rotation at the 1,2,3 positions with reasonable minutes available for each.

I sure wouldn't break the bank for Crawford. Much more than the MLE would be overpaying from my perspective. There are probably other teams who would say the same. So with that condition we probably don't get him.
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Post#16 » by laydo » Sat Dec 3, 2011 4:44 pm

Pacersike wrote:Crawford thinks he is in the final minute every time he touches the ball.
He also shot 0.33 from the field in the playoffs against the Bulls and is below 0.4 in his career.

For every big shot he makes, he screws up 2 times.
Yeah, we need a clutch player, but I hope we will find a better one.


The only player in the FA market better than Crawford in the late game may be David West.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jGbTgPAZOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe2eYAeQ-bI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ztIqBqTOa8
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Post#17 » by Val Holliday » Sat Dec 3, 2011 5:00 pm

Which is a point worth making. West is a great source of offense. And Hill over Price/Ford will be an upgrade along with presumed improvements from guys like Hibbert and George. I'm not worried about our ability to score. I want size, defense, and depth around this team. A more athletic, dynamic version of Milwaukee.
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Post#18 » by frizzledizzle » Sat Dec 3, 2011 7:13 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:PG should be taking the final shots.

DC should never be allowed on the floor in the 4th quarter.


Can't tell if serious.

Sorry, but this is one of the worst opinions I've read when it comes to the Pacers in a long time. You want the 21 year old that shot 30% from the field and 23% from downtown in the playoffs to take the shot with the game on the line? Do you even want the Pacers to win games?

This team could use a Crawford to take pressure of Granger as the only legit jump shooter on the team. This team could use a spot up shooter like Michael Redd or Jodie Meeks. I hope this team gets a crack at Lamb(Kentucky) or Jenkins(Vanderbilt) in the draft. Brandon Rush can shoot but it seems like he doesn't really put forth the effort and just relies on his God given talent. We need another jump shooter or someone that can drain threes so we can spread the floor. Currently, we have Roy Hibbert shooting jumpers from the top of the key while an undersized PF rebounds. Wtf is that? An unathletic, 7'2 center doesn't need to be shooting shots 3 feet inside the 3 point line.
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Post#19 » by Indy2thaWindy » Sat Dec 3, 2011 11:57 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbx_9wFLVuo&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

He had multiple shots like this last season. He had a big 3 in the final minute in a game against Miami that pulled us within 3 or 4. He's the only player who can make shots like this. He's not a good spot up shooter, but he's a great shooter off the dribble. If you want to use a rookie's playoff stats who used a lot of his energy guarding the league's MVP, then go ahead. We'll see when Darren dribbles the ball off his foot in the final possesion who should really have the ball in their hands when the game's on the line. The only other person who I would consider is a Granger. He's proven he can make the shot, but can he create it? He did against NY on Shawne Williams, but the D was pretty sad. What was NY thinking? :lol: Double him.

I know most of you are talking about the last few minutes, not just possesion. The poor 4th quarters in the playoffs were more from poor point guard play than anything. Collison or Price couldn't create anything for anybody late in the games. You can't expect Crawford to get hot late in every game. You need a point guard who can create for others. That's why Rondo would be perfect. Lance has even shown he can create for others, at least way better than Collison can.
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Re: Jamal Crawford 

Post#20 » by Indy2thaWindy » Sun Dec 4, 2011 12:08 am



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