2012 Jays Off Season Discussion Thread

Raptor_Guy · Post #441 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 2:15 pm

Apparently the Marlins have offered Pujols a 10 Year Deal.

Is it just me or does that seem like an astronomically awful idea? He turns 32 in January and that's IF that's his real age. Regardless, they'd be paying a 42 year old 20+ million dollars.

Weems · Post #442 » by **Weems** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:23 pm

Relentless88 wrote:Can Callaspo still play 2B?

Looked at that the other day and his range is questionable at 2nd, but it's a very limited sample size. -12 and -14.9 UZR/150 the last 2 seasons. The "fans scouting report" (also a small sample, probably all haters) is awfully morbid and quite funny too.

LBJSeizedMyID · Post #443 » by **LBJSeizedMyID** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 4:29 pm

I believe when he was on KC he was moved to third base to allow Chris Getz (if I'm not mistaken) takeover second base duties. He's a much better third baseman than a second baseman.

rarefind · Post #444 » by **rarefind** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 5:53 pm

If Miami signs Pujols I would lose my mind. I wonder how long it will take fans to remember that this team played in the state of Florida for almost the last twenty years and how much they have cared over this timespan.

WpgPage · Post #445 » by **WpgPage** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 9:51 pm

So wonder if Hainley would be more open to playing 2B than 3B?

sonn · Post #446 » by **sonn** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 10:41 pm

WpgPage wrote:So wonder if Hainley would be more open to playing 2B than 3B?

Just move Yunel to 2B. Problem solved.

WpgPage · Post #447 » by **WpgPage** » Tue Dec 6, 2011 11:47 pm

So speaking of Yunel I happened to be looking at Cots and realized that Yunel and Morrow have the same agent. Hopefully that means we can get Morrow locked up to a nice insanely team friendly deal since apparently this agent has no idea what the Heck is going on around him.

Randle McMurphy · Post #448 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:10 am

WpgPage wrote:So speaking of Yunel I happened to be looking at Cots and realized that Yunel and Morrow have the same agent. Hopefully that means we can get Morrow locked up to a nice insanely team friendly deal since apparently this agent has no idea what the Heck is going on around him.

Maybe we can convince KJ to switch agents to that guy before the arbitration deadline.

Santoki · Post #449 » by **Santoki** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:27 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
WpgPage wrote:So speaking of Yunel I happened to be looking at Cots and realized that Yunel and Morrow have the same agent. Hopefully that means we can get Morrow locked up to a nice insanely team friendly deal since apparently this agent has no idea what the Heck is going on around him.

Maybe we can convince KJ to switch agents to that guy before the arbitration deadline.

With all this money we just saved on a closer, and that we're apparently not going to use on Fielder, how much more money will it take to keep Johnson? What's his arb number vs. what he'll get in free agency? If we really need a 2B and there aren't better options, why not bite the bullet and pay him a bit more?

Randle McMurphy · Post #450 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:09 am

Santoki wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:
WpgPage wrote:So speaking of Yunel I happened to be looking at Cots and realized that Yunel and Morrow have the same agent. Hopefully that means we can get Morrow locked up to a nice insanely team friendly deal since apparently this agent has no idea what the Heck is going on around him.

Maybe we can convince KJ to switch agents to that guy before the arbitration deadline.

With all this money we just saved on a closer, and that we're apparently not going to use on Fielder, how much more money will it take to keep Johnson? What's his arb number vs. what he'll get in free agency? If we really need a 2B and there aren't better options, why not bite the bullet and pay him a bit more?

Because Rogers would rather spend on a cheaper 2B most likely.

Santoki · Post #451 » by **Santoki** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 1:55 am

So, they take a flier on him and he plays pretty well so they only offer the arb? It seems like a foregone conclusion that Johnson will walk and there don't seem to be any better options out there. I guess this Santos deal came out of nowhere, so I'll sit back and wait for another one of these to happen.

pierro · Post #452 » by **pierro** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:09 am

Looks like the Mets are trying to build the 2011 Jays pen

Frank francisco gets 2 year deal w/ mets, as @KenDavidoff reported

LBJSeizedMyID · Post #453 » by **LBJSeizedMyID** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:32 am

Still kind of puzzled at the Mets moves right now. They're not rebuilding but retooling and making trades that give them a little more cost control. But still don't get their logic.

Homer Jay · Post #454 » by **Homer Jay** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 3:36 am

LBJSeizedMyID wrote:Still kind of puzzled at the Mets moves right now. They're not rebuilding but retooling and making trades that give them a little more cost control. But still don't get their logic.

You can't rebuild in NY, it's even worse than Toronto, for fans expecting playoffs every year.

Post #455 » by **Schad** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:07 am

LBJSeizedMyID wrote:Still kind of puzzled at the Mets moves right now. They're not rebuilding but retooling and making trades that give them a little more cost control. But still don't get their logic.

They're the Mets...seeking logic in their moves is a fool's errand at the best of times.

hyper316 · Post #456 » by **hyper316** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 4:13 am

what kind of contract is Kelly Johnson looking for? He has a pretty good track record, I'll like the Jays to sign him. once we cross off 2B. I think the season is pretty much set barring some major value trade

this is what the team looks like right now:

SS Escobar
CF Rasmus
RF Bautista
1B Lind
3B Lawrie
LF Thames/Snider
DH Encarnacion
2B ???
C Arencibia

Romero
Morrow
Cecil
Alvarez
McGowan

Santos
Janssen
Carreno
Villanueva
Perez
Litsch

redraptors · Post #457 » by **redraptors** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:30 am

What is the word on Kelly Johnson? Is he going to be with us for another year or what

WpgPage · Post #458 » by **WpgPage** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 5:40 am

Theres no way AA will take the pick and continue to stock the system I'm sure hes already hunting around for 2B trade candidates. Really wish we had drafted Kolten Wong with the 21st pick would have filled a major organizational hole. Also he probably would have signed.

Wally West · Post #459 » by **Wally West** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 9:28 am

With Frank Francisco and Jon Rauch signing with the Mets and us picking up 2 draft picks. I'm convinced that Anthopolous is a greek god.

baulderdash77 · Post #460 » by **baulderdash77** » Wed Dec 7, 2011 12:38 pm

The offseason is still incomplete.

We still need another mid rotation starter. Offseason priority #1 - waiting

We need to settle the 2B position. Offseason priority #2 - waiting

We have a legit closer now. So offeason priority #3 -check

We need another bat in the lineup. Offseason priority #4 - waiting

We need another LH releiver with only 1 under contract. Offseason priority #5 - waiting.

We're getting 3 comp picks and may end up with 5 comp picks. This is going to be the last year we can stock the minor leagues like this. Offseason priority #6 - check.