Jays in on Gio Gonzalez

[righteous015]

Kind of a newbie question but I've never figured out what peripherals are and how are they useful. Also, how is it measured?

[WpgPage]

Peripherals are stats like Ground Ball% K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/FB% and hey you may as well lump SERA FIP and xFIP in there as well. If you want to get more advanced look at his Strike % Swinging Strike % Zone % and Contact % also batted ball profiles and pitches/AB can be use full. All of this info can be found if you scroll down a players fangraph page, http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... position=P

[righteous015]

Peripherals are stats like Ground Ball% K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/FB% and hey you may as well lump SERA FIP and xFIP in there as well. If you want to get more advanced look at his Strike % Swinging Strike % Zone % and Contact % also batted ball profiles and pitches/AB can be use full. All of this info can be found if you scroll down a players fangraph page, http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?pl ... position=P

Oooh gotcha. Cool thanks.

[Raptor_Guy]

Putting his awful walk rate into the AL East scares the crap out of me.

[Lateral Quicks]

I certainly hope not. That doesn't make any sense. We have a number of internal options who could probably replicate his very mediocre numbers next year.

Niese has very good peripherals. Better than Gio's actually.

The 1.4 WHIP and .280 BAA is a big red flag, though, and he hasn't shown any improvement year to year. I do think a healthy MgGowan could put up similar numbers.

[Anatomize]

I don't really feel comfortable giving up that much for Gio Gonzalez. He's a nice pitcher but he perennially struggles versus some good teams, he's also inconsistent even versus poor teams.

Check out his ERA versus some top offenses:

2011:@NYY - 4.2 IP - 6 ER, 3 BB
BOS - 6 IP - 4 ER, 1 BB
NYY - 6 ip - 4 ER, 4 BB
@TEX - 4 ip - 7 R, 3 ER, 3 BB
@ BOS 5.2 ip - 4 ER, 3 BB

Considering we play two of these teams often, and another nice offense in TB; I'm not interested in giving up 2 high end prospects and a bunch of mid level ones for him. Not to mention he gets hit around a lot and gives up a tonne of walks.. he's a wonderful strikeout pitcher, and he plays in a pitcher friendly ballpark that has been very friendly to lots of average pitchers in the past.

[Anatomize]

One of Thames or Snider + Hech + Deck + Jake M

Couldn't blackmail me into considering that. Gio's a pretty good pitcher, but he's hardly stellar...I wouldn't go near a deal like that, though if there are a half-dozen or more teams after him, it could take quite a bit (though I doubt quite that much).

After I wrote my response and then saw you respond to this post.. I'm surprised you even took the time to address it.

[kwamebargnani]

Terrible home/road splits, can't throw stirkes, and ridiculous asking price from Oakland. Pass.

[jim todd]

no thank you. different starter please.

[CapeCrusader]

I really like Gonzalez and Cahill from Oakland. But unless they could be had for a steal, its better to move on.

[raptorforlife88]

My hope with Gio Gonzalez is that the Phillies who've been rumoured to be in on him, wind up getting him for a ton of prospects. Since he's cheap they get to control him for a few years and this frees them up to trade Cole Hamels who's due for a big contract.

At that point you hope the Jays can step into that action.

[Skin Blues]

He's a good, solid pitcher that'll probably have an ERA around 4, and that's valuable, but not worth what it'd cost to get him.