Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2

Brinbe · Post #881 » by **Brinbe** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:03 am

What a dumb foul

sunny · Post #882 » by **sunny** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:04 am

WOO GO SOLO!

Post #883 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:05 am

I hope Miller manages to stay healthy and returns for a sophomore year.

I'm really warming up to a 2- year rule after 2012... but I still say that high schoolers should be able to go top 3 and stay on rookie deals 2 years longer.

Post #884 » by **Cyrus** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:09 am

Union agreed to move the Age up to 20 it looks like, starting looking at 20 year old ya`ll.

Consequence · Post #885 » by **Consequence** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:11 am

Cyrus wrote:Union agreed to move the Age up to 20 it looks like, starting looking at 20 year old ya`ll.

What? Everything I've read today has said the opposite. What's your source?

Post #886 » by **Cyrus** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:20 am

Consequence wrote:
Cyrus wrote:Union agreed to move the Age up to 20 it looks like, starting looking at 20 year old ya`ll.

What? Everything I've read today has said the opposite. What's your source?

Just playing, but the agreed they`ll talk about it during the season, and having it apply (Whatever they come up with) for this upcoming year.

fredericklove · Post #887 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:26 am

Sucks to be Beal to be a teammate of two midget chuckers..., good thing Beal is good off ball and he definitely got freshman treatment during OT, he got no touches at all!

7-Day Dray · Post #888 » by **7-Day Dray** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:38 am

Kreamy wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I really don't understand all the Q. Miller hype on this board. The kid is coming off a pretty serious injury, had attitude problems in the past, doesn't play defense, has questionable speed and lateral quickness at best, and yet you would think he was the second coming of LeBron or Durant with the way some of you guys go on about him. And it's not like he has a huge body of work to go on - he's fresh out of high school and was sidelined for the past year. What exactly has he done to garner or warrant all this hype? Am I missing something?

Rapsfan07 · Post #889 » by **Rapsfan07** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:46 am

7-Day Dray wrote:
Kreamy wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I really don't understand all the Q. Miller hype on this board. The kid is coming off a pretty serious injury, had attitude problems in the past, doesn't play defense, has questionable speed and lateral quickness at best, and yet you would think he was the second coming of LeBron or Durant with the way some of you guys go on about him. And it's not like he has a huge body of work to go on - he's fresh out of high school and was sidelined for the past year. What exactly has he done to garner or warrant all this hype? Am I missing something?

He's got the best skillset out of any other SF on the board.

Pseudonym · Post #890 » by **Pseudonym** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 2:47 am

It's obviously a wait and see with Miller to see if/when he's fully recovered from the surgery.

Post #891 » by **Undefeated** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:00 am

Kreamy wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I really don't understand all the Q. Miller hype on this board. The kid is coming off a pretty serious injury, had attitude problems in the past, doesn't play defense, has questionable speed and lateral quickness at best, and yet you would think he was the second coming of LeBron or Durant with the way some of you guys go on about him. And it's not like he has a huge body of work to go on - he's fresh out of high school and was sidelined for the past year. What exactly has he done to garner or warrant all this hype? Am I missing something?

It's been only 3 or 4 months since Quincy has returned to the hardwood playing competitive basketball, so obviously his quickness and explosiveness won't be at 100%. It takes time for a full recovery and adjustment to the knee to stay low before playing at full force. However, if he continues to sustain this lack of quickness and explosiveness come March Madness, then it becomes reasonable to question his knee. For now, let's wait and see how he does because after all he has the highest ceiling at his position.

Before his torn ACL, he was one of the most complete SF with the best all-around offensive skill, length, and athleticism coming out of HS. Out of all the wing prospects from this year, I want a wing player that can potentially fill at least two or three of these needs that the Raptors are sorely lacking from the wing; shoot the three-ball, a play maker that can create easy or open baskets for his teammates, the ability to make something out of nothing when he has the ball in his hands and create his own offense off the bounce consistently, a go-to-scorer during the clutch, and contain his man at an elite level. Ask yourself, of the prospects in the year's draft, who is able to fill these needs the best while having a high ceiling? Maybe Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Jeremy Lamb, but they're pretty far behind Quincy in terms of being crafty and finesse with their offense. It's amazing what Quincy has shown prior to his injury. The body control at his size and polished finishing in traffic is a nice touch to it all. The smoothness and fluidity in his game speaks for itself.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_-wVQNynw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLe1whvhI-E[/youtube]

RomaniaLuvTR · Post #892 » by **RomaniaLuvTR** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:37 pm

Undefeated wrote:
Kreamy wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick or anything but I really don't understand all the Q. Miller hype on this board. The kid is coming off a pretty serious injury, had attitude problems in the past, doesn't play defense, has questionable speed and lateral quickness at best, and yet you would think he was the second coming of LeBron or Durant with the way some of you guys go on about him. And it's not like he has a huge body of work to go on - he's fresh out of high school and was sidelined for the past year. What exactly has he done to garner or warrant all this hype? Am I missing something?

It's been only 3 or 4 months since Quincy has returned to the hardwood playing competitive basketball, so obviously his quickness and explosiveness won't be at 100%. It takes time for a full recovery and adjustment to the knee to stay low before playing at full force. However, if he continues to sustain this lack of quickness and explosiveness come March Madness, then it becomes reasonable to question his knee. For now, let's wait and see how he does because after all he has the highest ceiling at his position.

Before his torn ACL, he was one of the most complete SF with the best all-around offensive skill, length, and athleticism coming out of HS. Out of all the wing prospects from this year, I want a wing player that can potentially fill at least two or three of these needs that the Raptors are sorely lacking from the wing; shoot the three-ball, a play maker that can create easy or open baskets for his teammates, the ability to make something out of nothing when he has the ball in his hands and create his own offense off the bounce consistently, a go-to-scorer during the clutch, and contain his man at an elite level. Ask yourself, of the prospects in the year's draft, who is able to fill these needs the best while having a high ceiling? Maybe Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Jeremy Lamb, but they're pretty far behind Quincy in terms of being crafty and finesse with their offense. It's amazing what Quincy has shown prior to his injury. The body control at his size and polished finishing in traffic is a nice touch to it all. The smoothness and fluidity in his game speaks for itself.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_-wVQNynw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLe1whvhI-E[/youtube]

still don`t believe to much in him, and he has the exact character of someone who will quit the raps on free agency..anthony davis and barnes are 2 guys i really believe would embrace without a problem staying in toronto at least 9 10 years and being THE FRANCHISE PLAYER

Basketball_Jones · Post #893 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:42 pm

Miller looks so awesome in those high school vids, I just have a hard time believing he'll ever be the same again physically. Anything to do with the ACL is a huge red flag.

phailing101 · Post #894 » by **phailing101** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:43 pm

Cyrus wrote:
Consequence wrote:
Cyrus wrote:Union agreed to move the Age up to 20 it looks like, starting looking at 20 year old ya`ll.

What? Everything I've read today has said the opposite. What's your source?

Just playing, but the agreed they`ll talk about it during the season, and having it apply (Whatever they come up with) for this upcoming year.

What? Every indication is that an age limit change would be put in place for 2013 draft.......not the 2012.

Reignman · Post #895 » by **Reignman** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:46 pm

I don't even see it in place for 2013 tbh. All they have done is created a committee to determine A) If they should even tinker with it in the first place B) if they change it when it should be rolled out.

Post #896 » by **Alfred** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:48 pm

The reason people are high on Quincy Miller is because he has a very intriguing combination of size, ballhandling ability and shooting. He has question marks, but it's not like people are simply pulling the hype out of thin air. Draftexpress has him rated as the #8 prospect in next year's draft.

Post #897 » by **Marvin!** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 3:53 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:nice flush by Young. He would be an interesting guy to consider with an additional pick. Great NBA body, excellent strength and athleticism, and he's looking a lot more confident in the post.

I watched that game last night and Young did look pretty interesting. Then I remembered Jonas ripping him a new one at the under 21's and that made me smile

Post #898 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 4:36 pm

Marvin! wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:nice flush by Young. He would be an interesting guy to consider with an additional pick. Great NBA body, excellent strength and athleticism, and he's looking a lot more confident in the post.

I watched that game last night and Young did look pretty interesting. Then I remembered Jonas ripping him a new one at the under 21's and that made me smile

It was Patric's night, and Arizona is tiny. Not counting him out but I think he's more Dorsey than Dwight.

Myth111 · Post #899 » by **Myth111** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 6:02 pm

Harvard at UCONN is on TSN2 tonight at 7:00.
West Virgina versus Kansas State comes on after but I do not think either team has a draft prospect.

God Squad · Post #900 » by **God Squad** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:04 pm

Marvin! wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:nice flush by Young. He would be an interesting guy to consider with an additional pick. Great NBA body, excellent strength and athleticism, and he's looking a lot more confident in the post.

I watched that game last night and Young did look pretty interesting. Then I remembered Jonas ripping him a new one at the under 21's and that made me smile

This. I was watching the game myself. Patrick clearly has a nba body. How tall his he? Looks PF height sorta. But Ya, I had to remember Jonas put in work against him this summer.

Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?