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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#841 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

earl Watson, Arroyo? Will an unsigned point guard please stand up?????
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Post#842 » by god shammgod » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

Gregory151 wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Agent Miller on Billups: "He has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers.."

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More agent Andy Miller on Knicks exposing Billups to amnesty waiver wire: "....unless it's a team he chooses himself. Buyer beware."


he should be mad at denver. that's why he's here in the first place.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#843 » by moocow007 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

cmoney24x wrote:Why are people so down on Baron, when he is healthy and motivated he is a top 15-20 pg in the league.


I'm ok with Baron Davis. But if the Knicks use their MLE on Grant Hill they aren't likely to be able to get Baron Davis in this rather convoluted amnesty process (assuming Davis is even amnestied). Why? Obviously no team is likely to take on Davis entire salary (if he's amnestied). Assuming this is the case and he skips through the initial outright claim phase, he still needs to make it through the bidding phase (where teams with capspace or MLE can bid on him). Considering the talent, considering the position he plays, I can't see no other team bidding even a 3 or 4 million for him. Should they (and I think that's a guarantee) the Knicks will never get a shot at signing him for anything. Now if they had their MLE then they theoretically could spend it during the bidding phase on Davis. Would leave them with Tyson Chandler, Amare Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony and Baron Davis...which would actually be pretty darn good looking on paper. But that would mean no Grant Hill.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#844 » by Loisl » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

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Appleshampoo wrote:Give T.J. Ford a call. Not sure how much he is valued... would he go for a Vets Min???

He's a Spur. Catch up...like tomato sauce homie


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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#845 » by BasicBall » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

waya wrote:Billups can suck a fat one


Easy on Chauncey now....Dude is a player...But I aint mad at the knicks at all...LOL
Don't raise your voice, improve your argument :nod:
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Post#846 » by K_ick_God » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

duetta wrote:That's crazy money, just crazy, for a guy with character and health issues. I guess Dolan is back on the phone with Isiah...



Tyson Chandler has character issues? Opposite. People say he's one of the best guys in the league.
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Post#847 » by waya » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:25 pm

duetta wrote:That's crazy money, just crazy, for a guy with character and health issues. I guess Dolan is back on the phone with Isiah...

Not really. There are no great big men who aren't on their rookie deals who make less than 10 million.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#848 » by GONYK » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

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seren wrote:Let's be clear on one thing. People prefer to forfeit the year for a CHANCE to sign CP3 which will ultimately cost us Fields, TD, Shumpert, and all other assets instead of getting Chandler NOW and make a real run at this.

CP3/Melo/Amare combo with bunch of minimums is redundant. It ain't better than what Miami has there. We need defense, we need rebounding, we need depth to beat Miami. Not become a second rate copy of them.

LOL. How's a CP3/Melo/Amare combo redundant? Miami had 2 elite playmakers and one decent playmaker at PF. We don't even have an average playmaker and we have one guy at PF that just can't pass to save his life. Jab step, jab step, jab step, drive into 4 defenders...pass it to an open guy? Nope, lemme try to yam it on 4 guys.

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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#849 » by j4remi » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

duetta wrote:That's crazy money, just crazy, for a guy with character and health issues. I guess Dolan is back on the phone with Isiah...


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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#850 » by Jay10 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

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Just spoke to Andy Miller, agent for Chauncey Billups, who describes his client as "irate" over possibility of Knicks using amnesty on him.
4 minutes ago via web

Why did they resign him to that 1 year deal if they are going to use the amnesty on him? Makes no sense.

Either you trade him or keep him.


there was a report he told the knicks if they weren't going to give him the extension that he wanted to be released. Donnie shut him up by giving him the extension because of the lockout.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#851 » by nyjazz » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

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DonJuanCapistro wrote:I agree that D'Antoni needs a good, pace setting PG, but we scored plenty of baskets with Duhon running the point and he made Ray Felton look like an All-Star last year.

There are a ton of PG's in the league, and the officiating has made being a PG easier than it's ever been. Even with all the rule changes, no NBA champion has won a chip because of PG play since Isiah's Pistons. One could argue that Billups was instrumental for the Pistons, but I dont think he was more important than either Ben or Rasheed Wallace.

Mavs won because of their frontcourt, so did all those spurs teams. Miami won with a SG and Shaq, The Spurs won chips because of TD, not TP, Shaq and Kobe won without a true pg, so did Jordan's and Hakeem's teams.

I love cp3, he's easily my favorite non knick, but he's less important in the grand scheme of things than we all think.

Point being, D'Antoni can find a "pure pg" a la Felton or Duhon, and turn them into a pretty effective PG. I don't think the answer is shumpert douglas or anthony carter, but there are options out there that will allow us to flourish with the frontcourt we're on the verge of having.

No matter who it is, if that PG can't run the PnR, then we will have a problem



Well put. The Knicks add AI and/or BD and the PG position will be fine this year.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#852 » by aggo » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

Dolan doing what Dolan does best!

Throw money into the situation to fix problems.

He's gotta love this amnesty thing.

I hate Dolan because he surrounds himself with poor decision makers, but let's be honest here, you can't get mad at an owner whose going to spend spend spend, and now he's spending even more to fix problems. He basically signed Chandler for 58million + 14 that he wont see production out of by amnestying Billups.

Good move Knicks and Dolan.


We finally get a defensive bigman who is top 5 in the league and is an excellent man-on and help defender. Great fit next to Amare and Melo. Great **** fit.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#853 » by Appleshampoo » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

Imagine if Chauncey gets so pissed that he signs with the Heat???? I mean this isn't literature so I doubt it but damn that would suck.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#854 » by duetta » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

KnicksGod wrote:Tyson Chandler has character issues? Opposite. People say he's one of the best guys in the league.


Ask the Bulls fans how they felt about Chandler coming into camp way out of shape after signing that huge deal
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Post#855 » by poeman » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
duetta wrote:That's crazy money, just crazy, for a guy with character and health issues. I guess Dolan is back on the phone with Isiah...



Tyson Chandler has character issues? Opposite. People say he's one of the best guys in the league.


Agreed, Dallas fans are hurt by him leaving
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#856 » by The_Philosopher » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

Why are people acting like we are getting Dikembe Mutombo in his prime?

This guy is an average NBA center.
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Post#857 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

I would take Baron Davis on this team.

When he's motivated, on a good team, in a good environment, dude can ball. He is one of those players that steps it up in big games too.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#858 » by K_ick_God » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:26 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:Tyson only averaged 1.1 rebounds per game last year. Yikes.

Im fairly certain that is a false statement



I meant blocks, my bad. He is 10 and 9 though which is really solid.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#859 » by Fire AnDice » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:27 pm

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Fire AnDice wrote:I still think we could get Paul w/o trading Amare:

Trade Chauncey(14,2mil)+TD(1,15mil)+ Balkman(1,7mil)+ Walker (0,9mil) for Chandler(13mil) and Barea(5mil)

Sign Hill for mle (5mil)

Trade Barea (5mil), Hill (5mil), Turiaf (4,36mil), Fields(0,8mil), Walker(0,9mil)+ maybe even Shump (1mil?) , future first for 15+mil Paul

Possible?

The last step is unrealistic; not enough assets for NO. But I like the moves before that. Love the backcourt combo; great compliments cause Hill can compensate for Barea's lack of D and point guard abilities.

Barea
Hill
Melo
Amare
Chandler

That's a contender this year.


NO wouldn´t have a choice. If the Knicks have the two best friends of Paul, he will force them to trade him there and take what they have to give. You can still try to get 1 third team involved.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#860 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:27 pm

MKCATL wrote:Looks like Steven A has legit sources


What did Screamin' A say?
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