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Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW

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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#921 » by vinnie_vegas69 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:37 pm

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boogeydown wrote:Can't the Knicks just sign and trade Billups and Turiaf for Tyson Chandler?


Maybe the Mavericks don't want Billups for $14.2 million, even if it's an expiring deal. They may be better off getting a trade exception for Chandler instead.


Is there a reason that the Knicks would even bother with a sign-and-trade? If they amnesty Billups then they're basically using their own cap to sign a unrestricted FA. 4 years doesn't require a sign-and-trade.

Well, the trade would happen so that we don't have to use the amnesty on Billups, and we can save it for a rainy day.
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Post#922 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

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icewill36 wrote:baron davis in a d'antoni offense would be insane.... you guys are sleeping.

i just hope they dont trade STAT :(


Davis also shoots 5+ threes a game...at a 32% clip.


He did shoot a lot better last year though (and the year before that he didn't shoot 5 3's per game).


1 year above 40% though...

I'm not against signing him as long as we can reel in the attempts per game.
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Post#923 » by icewill36 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

Paco wrote:
icewill36 wrote:baron davis in a d'antoni offense would be insane.... you guys are sleeping.

i just hope they dont trade STAT :(


Davis also shoots 5+ threes a game...at a 32% clip.


so ? look how much melo's 3pt% improved in NY...
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Post#924 » by god shammgod » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 1 min

One source w/knowledge of Mavs' thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups' expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade
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Post#925 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:How out of shape? He's always been skinny. It was during the Finals that one of those guys said that Tyson Chandler was the most positive person he's ever been around. He's supposed to have super high character actually.

He's also played at least 70 games in 7 out of 10 years of his career.

We are paying him a lot and he's not a scorer but your specific critiques here seem unfounded.


The Bulls were very disappointed with him - which is why he's no longer a Bull. Maybe he's developed a semblence of professionalism since then. But that's crazy money for a guy is decent but nothing elite.


It's overpaying, but it's overpaying for someone who is elite in our biggest area of need - defense at the center position. Which makes it a lot more appealing.
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#926 » by overbends » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

iDunk wrote:Alright so our roster thus far ..

Toney Douglas
Iman Shumpert
Carmelo Anthony
Amare Stoudemire
Jared Jeffries
Tyson Chandler
Landry Fields
Renaldo Balkman
Andy Rautins
Bill Walker
Josh Herrelson

11 players


Crown 'em!
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Post#927 » by The_Philosopher » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:38 pm

DonJuanCapistro wrote:Gentlmen, worry no more, cp3 will be a knick, via free agency next year, please read this thread i just posted: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1141272


Nice. Are they going to amnesty Amar'e or something? Because signing chandler now eliminates CP3 via trade or signing.
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Post#928 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

Jay10 wrote:"**BREAKING NBA NEWS**Source: Lakers have TRADED for CP3 (Deal Done Expect announcement before Monday) "

-incarceratedbob

is it safe to say bob has a habit of steals stories and claiming them as his own? He saw the report on twitter about the lakers having a 3 team trade in place and now he's acting like it's his story.


I can honestly say my life is better with bob out of my twitter feed.
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Post#929 » by AllanHoustonFan » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

god shammgod wrote:Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 1 min

One source w/knowledge of Mavs' thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups' expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade


He's getting amnestied.
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Post#930 » by robinsoncano » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

don't amnesty Billups, he will end up on the Heat.

trade him to the Mavs
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Re: Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW 

Post#931 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

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seren wrote:
Such pointless stuff.

Who was the center of Dallas when they won a ring last year?


That has to be the stupidest way of valuing of player I've ever seen.

This guy was basically given away by the Hornets and Bobcats and he has one season where he does slightly above his career averages on a team that happens to win the title and he deserves $14 million a season? Okay.

not so. he was impressive in Chi and fell out of favor with Skiles as every big man ever has
he was very impressive in NO but then got injured
He was totally unimpressive in Cha under Brown but so were a lot of people
He was a major factor in a championship season in Dal, major! Not just in the finals but the entire playoffs and regular season too
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Post#932 » by poeman » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
Jay10 wrote:"**BREAKING NBA NEWS**Source: Lakers have TRADED for CP3 (Deal Done Expect announcement before Monday) "

-incarceratedbob

is it safe to say bob has a habit of steals stories and claiming them as his own? He saw the report on twitter about the lakers having a 3 team trade in place and now he's acting like it's his story.


I can honestly say my life is better with bob out of my twitter feed.


Bob blocked me cause I cursed him out for lying before. It was great
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Post#933 » by K_ick_God » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:At being injured and offensively inept.



Playing 70+ games in 70% of a 10 year career is not exactly Mr. Healthy, but it's not Mr. Injury either.
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Post#934 » by god shammgod » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:39 pm

vinnie_vegas69 wrote:Well, the trade would happen so that we don't have to use the amnesty on Billups, and we can save it for a rainy day.


not sure but doesn't using the amnesty on billups stop us from using the mle this year ?
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Post#935 » by Red Vines » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:40 pm

Someone needs to make a Donald Trump "You're amnestied!" gif.
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Post#936 » by suicidedeuce » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:40 pm

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Mac1Money wrote:Would love to have him, but dont wanna overpay...lets be real, between Turiaf, Jeffries, and Jorts, we have the most injury proned C in the league, the skinniest C in the league, and the most inexperience C in the league...



BTW, can someone PLEASE explain to me how exactly the amnesty works? You just waive a player w/o having to pay him?

amnesty works like this


you waive a player and you still pay their complete salary but it comes off your teams' cap and lux tax

waived players are on the wire for X-amount of time where teams can take them and pay them full salary. so if we waived Carmelo someone under the cap would grab him, it would go to the team with the worst record and the space to pay.

after clearing the waiver wire the team with the money to negotiate a new contract can sign the player as a free agent. This is how Finley ended up in Phx after Dallas for example


Not quite.

After clearing the first waiver process you accurately described, there is a new secondary amnesty waiver process.

Team under the cap can big on assuming a portion of the existing contract. Team with highest bid wins.

Team who wins pays that amount, old team pays the difference between that and the original contract.

Player who is claimed has to report, or they don't get anything.

If a player goes unclaimed after both waiver processes, he's a free agent.
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Post#937 » by emo » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:41 pm

58mil?

Really?

I really do like Tyson Chandler.. but seriously, 58?
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Post#938 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:41 pm

god shammgod wrote:
vinnie_vegas69 wrote:Well, the trade would happen so that we don't have to use the amnesty on Billups, and we can save it for a rainy day.


not sure but doesn't using the amnesty on billups stop us from using the mle this year ?


Hmm, not sure. I didn't think it did. Anyone know?
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Post#939 » by KnicksFan007 » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:41 pm

He played elite defense in NO during that run with Paul. He regained his passion after he clashed with Larry Brown in Charlotte. He fit right in Dallas and won a title.

He makes us alot better still. Decent Or Not. He's a legit big man who can guard anyone.
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Post#940 » by Falstaffxx » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:41 pm

emo wrote:58mil?

Really?

I really do like Tyson Chandler.. but seriously, 58?


That is a lot, haha.

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