Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt I, Mods Close)

Darth Magic · Post #1401 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:55 pm

InFlames wrote:
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Golden State offering DeAndre Jordan 4 years $55 million

Holy ****

Magic#1 · Post #1402 » by **Magic#1** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:57 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
InFlames wrote:
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Golden State offering DeAndre Jordan 4 years $55 million

Holy ****

I'd offer Jordan that before Chandler, but that's still ridiculous. Chandler and Jordan are both 30 mill players total--at most.

InFlames · Post #1403 » by **InFlames** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:57 pm

I took that tweet from tbn, might be bull.

ADRajX · Post #1404 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:57 pm

InFlames wrote:
ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
Golden State offering DeAndre Jordan 4 years $55 million

i thought deandre was on clippers?
NVM read that wrong sorry

MagicFan41 · Post #1405 » by **MagicFan41** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:58 pm

The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

Darth Magic · Post #1406 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:59 pm

MitchellUK wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:
magic04life wrote:So if the Clippers are signing Butler, Knicks signing Chandler, and Lakers trading for Paul.....can we officially cross those teams off for the running for Dwight?

Keep in mind that under the new CBA deals can be stretched. so the clips could stretch Butler next year and still have cap space for Dwight.

Sorry, can you explain that? I thought it was waived contracts that can be stretched out - what "stretch" are you referring to?

Under the CBA there is a stretch provision which teams can use to shed a player that is under contract. the salary cap hit would be lessened as the contract would be stretched out over twice the current length of the contract.

ADRajX · Post #1407 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:59 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

pretty much

MitchellUK · Post #1408 » by **MitchellUK** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:01 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
MitchellUK wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:
Keep in mind that under the new CBA deals can be stretched. so the clips could stretch Butler next year and still have cap space for Dwight.

Sorry, can you explain that? I thought it was waived contracts that can be stretched out - what "stretch" are you referring to?

Under the CBA there is a stretch provision which teams can use to shed a player that is under contract. the salary cap hit would be lessened as the contract would be stretched out over twice the current length of the contract.

Yeah, so you're insinuating that the Clippers, who just signed Butler to a contract, will waive him next summer, pay him $16m to disappear, and use the space to sign Dwight? They can't stretch his cap impact if he is still under contract.

magicman123 · Post #1409 » by **magicman123** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:01 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

nah man otis is good, dont do the man like that, hes trying, hes one of the top gm's..yall hating :wink:

The Real Dalic · Post #1410 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:01 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

We need to forget about that, what's done is done. it feels like every thread that's brought up.

pokerfan12 · Post #1411 » by **pokerfan12** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:02 pm

OrlandO wrote:
pokerfan12 wrote:GUYS remember a majority of the deals you hear about are deals that fall through.

The problem is we don't hear any deals for ORL... except that Larry Hughes will be around for training camp.

that's like a fact. Doesn't count as a deal. deals are always kept quiet until they either happen or blow up. which is when we hear about them.

Darth Magic · Post #1412 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:02 pm

I'm breaking the trade checker to try and keep Dwight here. I came up with this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73dodkx

Frees up 7 million in cap space for GSW

Nemesis21 · Post #1413 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:03 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

We need to forget about that it's done with. it feels like every thread that's brought up.

+1, We all know Otis panicked last yr, and sent all of our trade chips to Phx for a cheeseburger. It's in the past now.

The Real Dalic · Post #1414 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

Darth Magic wrote:I'm breaking the trade checker to try and keep Dwight here. I came up with this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73dodkx

Frees up 7 million in cap space for GSW

The Hawks get raped in that deal.

Darth Magic · Post #1415 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

Yeah, so you're insinuating that the Clippers, who just signed Butler to a contract, will waive him next summer, pay him $16m to disappear, and use the space to sign Dwight? They can't stretch his cap impact if he is still under contract.

I'm not insinuating anything. I'm saying that they could still sign Dwight outright.

kman1023 · Post #1416 » by **kman1023** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

Not liking this. Way to quiet on Magic's end, is it that possible that Otis is working so quietly to get something? Also, why is it that no one is reporting Dwight's intention is to stay (reportedly)? Everyone is still making moves for Dwight and planning on it, but it seems like he doesn't want to go?

Nemesis21 · Post #1417 » by **Nemesis21** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

Darth Magic wrote:I'm breaking the trade checker to try and keep Dwight here. I came up with this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73dodkx

Frees up 7 million in cap space for GSW

I don't want Joe Johnson on this team.

gp123 · Post #1418 » by **gp123** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:04 pm

Darth Magic wrote:I'm breaking the trade checker to try and keep Dwight here. I came up with this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73dodkx

Frees up 7 million in cap space for GSW

You know, if you throw bass in for ATL you might have something

Edit: nm GS not getting nearly enough back

The Real Dalic · Post #1419 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:05 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
The Real Dalic wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:The sad part about all of this.....if we had Gortat right now, we could land Ellis easily, Iggy easily and possibly even CP3. All these teams are looking for legit bigs. We had the perfect piece....

We need to forget about that it's done with. it feels like every thread that's brought up.

+1, We all know Otis panicked last yr, and sent all of our trade chips to Phx for a cheeseburger. It's in the past now.

ADRajX · Post #1420 » by **ADRajX** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 9:05 pm

Darth Magic wrote:I'm breaking the trade checker to try and keep Dwight here. I came up with this.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=73dodkx

Frees up 7 million in cap space for GSW

There's no was GS does that deal

Good try though... I wonder if there's a way we could snatch Camby (expiring) from Portland with Hedo or Duhon/Q-Rich/Bass