Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW

robinsoncano · Post #1721 » by **robinsoncano** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

Blue Ninja wrote:Shump wasnt even a real PG in college. Hes not a point right now. Hes purely a SG right now imo.

Rose, Westbrook

stevieg987 · Post #1722 » by **stevieg987** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

GONYK wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Tyson needs a dynamic point guard who has uncanny passing abilities to maximize his talents ala Chris Paul and Jason Kidd. That's the only part of this pickup that gives me red flags because at this point in the signing period we are point guard less.

THANK GOD someone else realizes this

We don't need any scoring out of Tyson beyond put-backs. We have Melo and Amare for that. Now who we get to feed them is the question. Hopefully Nash or Felton next season.

On Chandler, if he stays healthy and gives us that elite presence down low and on the boards we've been screaming for then it will be a transformative signing. We can come out of the east THIS YEAR.

Wasting a year of Melo and Amare's prime to get CP3 on a bare bones roster was never realistic. This was the most sensible move.

Finally we have a definitive team. It's been about 5 years since the Knicks could be described as anything other than make-shift. In my opinion it's worth it for that alone.

Post #1723 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

we also have turiaf to trade for a piece....we will be fine guys im sure we have an idea of what guards we can get

makeitstop · Post #1724 » by **makeitstop** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

OakFlagrant2 wrote:Would a Sign and trade Chandler for Turiaf allow us to pay Chandler 12+ and keep(not amnesty) Billups?

Dallas said they weren't interested in Billups.

waya · Post #1725 » by **waya** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

You guys need to relax with the Shumpert hype. We've never seen this kid play yet. It's not fair to him to have crazy expectations like that.

ibraheim718 · Post #1726 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

KnicksFan007 wrote:Shumpert will play PG. I honestly think he will be a surprise.

And how did you come to this conclusion? Crystal ball or have you ever actually seen him play a full game?

omerome · Post #1727 » by **omerome** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

Fat Kat wrote:
GONYK wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Tyson needs a dynamic point guard who has uncanny passing abilities to maximize his talents ala Chris Paul and Jason Kidd. That's the only part of this pickup that gives me red flags because at this point in the signing period we are point guard less.

THANK GOD someone else realizes this

This is definitely gonna be a problem.

Well honestly Chauncey Billups wasn't going to be that dynamic point guard though. We still needed an upgrade at the PG.

Falstaffxx · Post #1728 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

Mac1Money wrote:Does that 2.5 also include whatever it would take to keep Purp? O_o

Probably not. We also have the 1.9 million bi-annual exception and can offer any number of additional minimum contracts (which we are rumored to have already offered him).

I agree it would be good bring him back.

Post #1729 » by **GONYK** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:14 am

TKF wrote:
GONYK wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:We're a better team, but before this signing I thought we were a lock for a 2nd round exit, no worse or better, and that's still how I see things. I think Miami and Chicago are still better teams than we are. I'd say we're pretty close with Boston, but they're a team that isn't going to be hurt by a shortened training camp/preseason, because of their experience together.

I agree

I don't know, a solid defensive center is something we have not had in a while... chandler is not a superstar, but he can be a game changer.. look at that 16 rebound game he had in the finals.. Huge.... NBA games can change with a rebound here and a block there... I don't know if miami and chicago are better teams.. we don't know that yet, the knicks with melo and amare don't lack talent, just team balance... especially in the frontcourt..

We will have that ugly iso offense that Miami and Chicago has now, and even with Chandler, we aren't the defensive squads those teams are. I mean, we're closer now, but it's the potential lack of offensive efficiency that's killing me. I guess we better get used to Amare and Melo diving into double teams again.

Blue Ninja · Post #1730 » by **Blue Ninja** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:15 am

Fat Kat wrote:
GONYK wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Tyson needs a dynamic point guard who has uncanny passing abilities to maximize his talents ala Chris Paul and Jason Kidd. That's the only part of this pickup that gives me red flags because at this point in the signing period we are point guard less.

THANK GOD someone else realizes this

This is definitely gonna be a problem.

not really. whats it going to cost us? 5 points at max. All we need Tyson to do is rebound, defend, block shots, run the floor, and stay healthy.

god shammgod · Post #1731 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:15 am

mpharris36 wrote:we also have turiaf to trade for a piece....we will be fine guys im sure we have an idea of what guards we can get

no. he's gone too for cap space to sign chandler.

RutgersBJJ · Post #1732 » by **RutgersBJJ** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:15 am

We need a PG so badly. I pray that Donnie pulled a rabbit out of his wheel-chair and Shumpert is the real deal. You can't magically become unselfish over-night though, and we have 0 guards on this roster who are unselfish.

Falstaffxx · Post #1733 » by **Falstaffxx** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:15 am

Blue Ninja wrote:
Shump wasnt even a real PG in college. Hes not a point right now. Hes purely a SG right now imo.

Maybe so, but that's not what he says. He's adamant about being able to play point guard.

Blue Ninja · Post #1734 » by **Blue Ninja** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:15 am

robinsoncano wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:Shump wasnt even a real PG in college. Hes not a point right now. Hes purely a SG right now imo.

Rose, Westbrook

How well did Westbrook work for OKC in the playoffs?

najeem37 · Post #1735 » by **najeem37** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
KnicksFan007 wrote:Shumpert will play PG. I honestly think he will be a surprise.

And how did you come to this conclusion? Crystal ball or have you ever actually seen him play a full game?

Have you seen Landry play a full game before last season?

Post #1736 » by **GONYK** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

Blue Ninja wrote:not really. whats it going to cost us? 5 points at max. All we need Tyson to do is rebound, defend, block shots, run the floor, and stay healthy.

LMAO

Our offensive efficiency, which wasn't that great to begin with, is going to take a nosedive unless Melo all of a sudden becomes Larry Bird

knicks718 · Post #1737 » by **knicks718** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

did everybody forget about this guy?

our new starting pg:

Blue Ninja · Post #1738 » by **Blue Ninja** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

Falstaffxx wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:
Shump wasnt even a real PG in college. Hes not a point right now. Hes purely a SG right now imo.

Maybe so, but that's not what he says. He's adamant about being able to play point guard.

hes trying to maximize his value. He is much more valuable at PG then SG.

ibraheim718 · Post #1739 » by **ibraheim718** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

RutgersBJJ wrote:We need a PG so badly. I pray that Donnie pulled a rabbit out of his wheel-chair and Shumpert is the real deal. You can't magically become unselfish over-night though, and we have 0 guards on this roster who are unselfish.

Our backcourt is putrid.

Jay10 · Post #1740 » by **Jay10** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:17 am

SAS says dwight might be on the lakers roster in a few days/hours