Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2

RaptorReloaded · Post #901 » by **RaptorReloaded** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 7:14 pm

IMO I'd take Rivers and his **** year so far over Miller. Not a fan but I like the swag. I hope we get another pick soo badly but I don't think BC likes the idea of going into next season with three rookies.. Damn shame though cause it would be huge if we could draft a legit big and a legit sf this draft.

God Squad · Post #902 » by **God Squad** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:01 pm

I'm don't want no part of Rivers. Extremely over hyped. Since he came into NCAA I've seen nothing but over-dribbling and selfish play. At this point I'll easily take Miller over Rivers. But the Miller - Barnes debate is up for grabs imo. But at this point in their Careers and considering draft mock position. I'd go with Barnes. Considering he's proven more than Miller. But I'm not counting out Miller by any-means.

A.Davis and A.Drummond are at the top clearly. But again, if raptors secured the number 1-2 pick with lottery balls aside. I just can't see many teams that are still worse than us. Which I think is VERY possible. Who do you draft? Do you take Drummond the freak athlete who has underachieved this year, but looks to have the highest potential? Or do you draft A.Davis who has imo overachieved. Proves he can be a defensive presence. But also has ways to go to improve his game.

DreamTeam09 · Post #903 » by **DreamTeam09** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 8:16 pm

^^I'd trade down and pick the better wing player between H.Barnes or PJ3...

Which is exactly what I hope happens, in a yr where the concensus are bigs and we do end up with the #1 pick, teams will be all over us with some prime offers imo... No1 from this freshman class has really wowed me yet. I see the value in A.Davis tho, I think Drummond is over-hyped. Both those guys scare me as #1 picks, I wan't more than just respectable defence & potential if i'm picking a big top 3...

Rapsfan07 · Post #904 » by **Rapsfan07** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:33 pm

spade57 wrote:I'm don't want no part of Rivers. Extremely over hyped. Since he came into NCAA I've seen nothing but over-dribbling and selfish play. At this point I'll easily take Miller over Rivers. But the Miller - Barnes debate is up for grabs imo. But at this point in their Careers and considering draft mock position. I'd go with Barnes. Considering he's proven more than Miller. But I'm not counting out Miller by any-means.

A.Davis and A.Drummond are at the top clearly. But again, if raptors secured the number 1-2 pick with lottery balls aside. I just can't see many teams that are still worse than us. Which I think is VERY possible. Who do you draft? Do you take Drummond the freak athlete who has underachieved this year, but looks to have the highest potential? Or do you draft A.Davis who has imo overachieved. Proves he can be a defensive presence. But also has ways to go to improve his game.

A very hard question. I think at the end of the day though, I take Drummond. Nothing against Davis though, I like him. It's just that there's a few key players that need to bulk up and drafting another one makes the process more lengthy than it already is. Drummond's body is ready right now though. You never know..his struggles early on could land him in our laps.

As for the SF debate, Miller clearly has the better skillset out of all the SFs on the board. But by March Madness I'd like to see some strides. Right now I think he's not 100% and playing a bit reserved to prevent aggravating the knee but he'll have to start doing big things soon. Again, he could be a blessing in disguise too. Only time will tell. But he has the skills and assuming he can get healthy/stay healthy, I pick him Top 5 every time.

dagger · Post #905 » by **dagger** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:49 pm

Anyone have a read on Will Barton of Memphis? He's a bit slender, but has really raised his game as a soph. He might make an excellent second round pick.

nahom1319 · Post #906 » by **nahom1319** » Thu Dec 8, 2011 10:52 pm

dagger wrote:Anyone have a read on Will Barton of Memphis? He's a bit slender, but has really raised his game as a soph. He might make an excellent second round pick.

I've watched him play a few times, haven't really paid much attention as I was focused on Adonis, but strikes me as a Derrick Rose/ Jerryd Bayless attacking guard type. Not much of playmaker but a pretty good natural scorer.

edit: well knock me over with a feather, I thought this guy was their pg with the amount of times he brings the ball up the court.... he would make a pretty good sg. horrible pg imo

fredericklove · Post #907 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:03 am

Okay, if Drummond doesnt score a double double tonight I'm gonna go kill him. For real.

fredericklove · Post #908 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:08 am

Stop walking around, Drummond, stop walking around.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #909 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:16 am

I liked that pass out by him.

Almost didn't recognize him without the mask

fredericklove · Post #910 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:17 am

Lamb just did a nasty crossover

bboyskinnylegs · Post #911 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:18 am

ooo Drummond that's how u do it

7-Day Dray · Post #912 » by **7-Day Dray** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:20 am

What a putback by Drummond

fredericklove · Post #913 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:21 am

bboyskinnylegs wrote:I liked that pass out by him.

Almost didn't recognize him without the mask

im watching a bad quality, didn't know he had it off i thought he needed it for 3 months lol

fredericklove · Post #914 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:29 am

drummond did some good things there on both end

bboyskinnylegs · Post #915 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:32 am

come on Andre don't just watch that, you need to get after it

fredericklove · Post #916 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:36 am

1 rebound is unacceptable for Drummond.

Post #917 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 12:42 am

His shot selection is a bit, uh, broad but I think the only skill Lamb is lacking is a left-handed finish.

He backed up the point when Boatright was out and plays some 3 now that he's back, and he's the best 2 in the country while possessing NBA dimensions and quickness for that position. He's a walking triple threat and he rebounds, too. There are no question marks, no red flags, he's even put on weight already. He's easily the #1 non-big to me.

Drummond is lacking a lot but gimme gimme.

Post #918 » by **Undefeated** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:35 am

Harvard is playing some great defense.

SkywalkerAC · Post #919 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 9:46 am

I'm also on the Lambandwagon. Serious ball skills. Great shooter already, from all over. Length. Athleticism. Major talent.

Not exactly the ideal size but he looks like a guy that could be able to defend 3 positions once he matures.

his skill level and overall body mechanics are just impressive, especially at that length. is point guard out of the question?

CB4Champ · Post #920 » by **CB4Champ** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 10:11 am

Man, My guy is Q Milly but Lamb, can't deny his game.

If we walk away from this draft with one of the 2 then this team will be READY to compete and challenge.

With D-Roz, Val, The Boy Bay, Davis and Bargs this team looks like it will do big things soon. 8-)

Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?