Knicks leaders for Tyson Chandler??? WOW

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #2041 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:29 am

So realistically what kind of money do we have left and who do we sign? Can we still afford Hill? Can we afford a role player or two?

iDunk · Post #2042 » by **iDunk** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:29 am

I don't get it .. is this deal going to happen? Or are we still looking for suitors for Turiaf which is holding it up? There hasn't been a 100% official call that its done.

Priggy Smalls · Post #2043 » by **Priggy Smalls** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:29 am

so whats the deal with that exception teams get when they sign a FA and cap out? i'd like to think we'd be bringing purp back with it.

god shammgod · Post #2044 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:29 am

DocZaius wrote:So its ok to spend ALL of our cap space on one guy that does not deserve this kind of money?

don't think about how much he makes. think about it like this. chandler, fields, shump, douglas, mle player this year vs 13 mill next year. those were the options.

Grinditout · Post #2045 » by **Grinditout** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:29 am

KnicksGod wrote:If Dwight goes to LA, the Nets will be about to lose Deron. I say at that point we approach them with an offer of Amar'e for Deron and Brook so they don't open the BK arena with nobody to speak of on their roster.

Brook
Tyson
Melo
Fields - Shump
Deron

Talent wise I like it, we would also get younger. But it feels dirty to me.

frothbrain · Post #2046 » by **frothbrain** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:30 am

great move.
now to follow it up with signing shawne williams and derrick brown.

tyson chandler brings the rebounding and defense the knicks have lacked since camby.
leave the scoring to melo and amare.

Post #2047 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:30 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If Dwight goes to LA, the Nets will be about to lose Deron. I say at that point we approach them with an offer of Amar'e for Deron and Brook so they don't open the BK arena with nobody to speak of on their roster.

Brook
Tyson
Melo
Fields - Shump
Deron

Why do you wanna get rid of Amare so bad?

Putting aside loyalty and all that, you wouldn't do that deal from a pure basketball POV?

Post #2048 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:30 am

KnicksGod wrote:If Dwight goes to LA, the Nets will be about to lose Deron. I say at that point we approach them with an offer of Amar'e for Deron and Brook so they don't open the BK arena with nobody to speak of on their roster.

Brook
Tyson
Melo
Fields - Shump
Deron

GET OUT

Post #2049 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:31 am

DocZaius wrote:So its ok to spend ALL of our cap space on one guy that does not deserve this kind of money?

We wouldn't have had that much cap space next year anyway.

Now we can use our MLE too.

7' defensive C's are overpaid because they are rare and they help teams win games/championships.

omerome · Post #2050 » by **omerome** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:31 am

KnicksGod wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If Dwight goes to LA, the Nets will be about to lose Deron. I say at that point we approach them with an offer of Amar'e for Deron and Brook so they don't open the BK arena with nobody to speak of on their roster.

Brook
Tyson
Melo
Fields - Shump
Deron

Why do you wanna get rid of Amare so bad?

Putting aside loyalty and all that, you wouldn't do that deal from a pure basketball POV?

No.

Why should we attempt to help the Nets?

AllanHoustonFan · Post #2051 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:32 am

KnicksGod wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:If Dwight goes to LA, the Nets will be about to lose Deron. I say at that point we approach them with an offer of Amar'e for Deron and Brook so they don't open the BK arena with nobody to speak of on their roster.

Brook
Tyson
Melo
Fields - Shump
Deron

Why do you wanna get rid of Amare so bad?

Putting aside loyalty and all that, you wouldn't do that deal from a pure basketball POV?

No. There's a reason people call him BLopez

froyo · Post #2052 » by **froyo** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:32 am

DocZaius wrote:
Grinditout wrote:
DocZaius wrote:So its ok to spend ALL of our cap space on one guy that does not deserve this kind of money?

As opposed to what other option?

Paul was off the table once he agreed to the Lakers. Unless you were thinking of waiting another year to add someone.

I would have kept the amnesty for Amare in case his body doesn't hold up and attempt to sign Deron Williams in the offseason.

Or...Melo for Dwight

A better, younger, healthier big man, amnesty and cap space intact. I'm not sure how serious I am about this yet, just causing trouble.

Post #2053 » by **kane2021** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:33 am

I hope the mavs have a change of heart and do a straight swap with us and billups. Especially with the rockets and lakers deals. But I guess thats doubtful.

aq_ua · Post #2054 » by **aq_ua** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:33 am

iDunk wrote:I don't get it .. is this deal going to happen? Or are we still looking for suitors for Turiaf which is holding it up? There hasn't been a 100% official call that its done.

Certainly sounds like the deal is contingent upon finding a suitable trade partner for Turiaf. However, makes absolutely no sense to announce a Chandler trade without having a few options on the table, so I imagine we're going through each and making the final decision on which option to take.

mildred · Post #2055 » by **mildred** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:34 am

Just saw on ESPN that Eddy Curry is going to sign with the Heat ......lmao

Daaaarryyl · Post #2056 » by **Daaaarryyl** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:34 am

iDunk wrote:I don't get it .. is this deal going to happen? Or are we still looking for suitors for Turiaf which is holding it up? There hasn't been a 100% official call that its done.

I think tommorow's the first day any moves can officially be made.

NyKnicks1714 · Post #2057 » by **NyKnicks1714** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:34 am

god shammgod wrote:the money for tyson doesn't matter. once the knicks realized they couldn't get cp3 they made a decision. try to use our 13 mill next summer on a center/pg and lose all our youth. or keep everybody, sign chandler now and still have the smaller mle to add to the team next year. it's a no brainer really.

I don't know how possible it would have been, but I would have liked to try and spend the money on Samuel Dalembert and Jason Richardson.

Defensively and on the boards, Chandler really isn't that much better than Dalembert. Overall I'd say he's probably 70-80% the player Chandler is.

Fields is not a 2, and Shumpert is an unknown right now. The whole notion that we "don't need more offense" is nonsense. You need at least 1 guy in the backcourt who can really score the ball. Richardson would have given us that, and he could have created some space too with his shooting.

Doing something like this would have given us more balance and depth.

kingOfqueens · Post #2058 » by **kingOfqueens** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:34 am

TKF wrote:just noticed... the hornets came off great..

scola, martin, and odom and dragic... very nice...

the rockets get pau.. very nice..

i don't think rockets did well in this trade.. gave up too much imo. scola, martin, dragic and a 1st is too much for gasol at this stage in his career esp for the position the rockets are in. They're a late playoff team at best and will be in a tough cap position with gasol due $20mil for the next 3 seasons.

ElPolloLoco · Post #2059 » by **ElPolloLoco** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:35 am

Bulls fan here, im scared

Post #2060 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 1:35 am

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:
AllanHoustonFan wrote:Why do you wanna get rid of Amare so bad?

Putting aside loyalty and all that, you wouldn't do that deal from a pure basketball POV?

No. There's a reason people call him BLopez