Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (PtII Mods Close)

thelead · Post #1161 » by **thelead** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

I'm Back!!! What's going on with Iggy?

toquito · Post #1162 » by **toquito** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:
toquito wrote:Uh wow did we pay big baby too much?

6.5 million a year is too much for a starting PF that is an upgrade?

That was more a question i wasn't really saying he was.

ADRajX · Post #1163 » by **ADRajX** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

gp123 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:
Don't get your hopes up. He's not going to clear waivers.

That means some one will want to pay him 60+ million over the next 3 years? Doubtful. He will clear waivers easily. Hopefully he signs back with us for the VE.

Waiver wire teams can make contract offers on him for part of the salary, or did this change?[/quote]
as far as I know, its a bidding process, and whatever portion he gets on his new contract is taken off of the amnestied one...

if no one else wants him and he signs for vet min on a contender like bulls, we still pay gil virtually his full amount. Even if he were to clear waivers, I'm not sure if rules allow waiving team to resign a player once he's cleared.[/quote]

Let's assume Otis had a little buddy-buddy chat with Arenas about this situation

miami5800 · Post #1164 » by **miami5800** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

[quote="rcklsscognition"][quote="Cammo101"]All Arenas has to do is clear waivers and we can resign him right? It would not shock me if that happened.[/quote]

Don't get your hopes up. He's not going to clear waivers.[/quote]

Don't think we can resign an amnestied player. However, getting under the caps now lets us bid on other amnestied players.

If I'm seeing this correctly, we now have three options:

1) S&T Richardson for someone making over the MLE
2) Sign someone outright using MLE
3) Bid on amnesty waivers

Not bad.

Reverse_Angle · Post #1165 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

Magic#1 wrote:As obvious as it was to amnesty Arenas, I didn't think we would do it. I'm glad. Best of luck, Gil.

totally... i was expecting otis to like this team.

MoMM · Post #1166 » by **MoMM** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:50 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Idunkonyou2 wrote:Don't get your hopes up. He's not going to clear waivers.

That means some one will want to pay him 60+ million over the next 3 years? Doubtful. He will clear waivers easily. Hopefully he signs back with us for the VE.

Waiver wire teams can make contract offers on him for part of the salary, or did this change?[/quote]
I think it keeps the same thing, if his contract is 60mi over 3 years and he signs for 5mi over 3 years, we would have to pay him the remaining 55mi, right?

iTs JusT zo · Post #1167 » by **iTs JusT zo** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:51 pm

gp123 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:
Don't get your hopes up. He's not going to clear waivers.

That means some one will want to pay him 60+ million over the next 3 years? Doubtful. He will clear waivers easily. Hopefully he signs back with us for the VE.

Waiver wire teams can make contract offers on him for part of the salary, or did this change?[/quote]
as far as I know, its a bidding process, and whatever portion he gets on his new contract is taken off of the amnestied one...

if no one else wants him and he signs for vet min on a contender like bulls, we still pay gil virtually his full amount. Even if he were to clear waivers, I'm not sure if rules allow waiving team to resign a player once he's cleared.[/quote]

sweeeeeeeeet shouldnt be much!

rcklsscognition · Post #1168 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:53 pm

One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

Orlando Prodigy · Post #1169 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:53 pm

Does the amnesty on Gil mean Orlando is gonna go after a guard? I hope we get Monta.

iTs JusT zo · Post #1170 » by **iTs JusT zo** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:54 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

damnit guys, stop talking mumbo jumbo. is this good or bad!?!??!!? lol lol

Firesole · Post #1171 » by **Firesole** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:54 pm

Martins did say that Dwight has NOT asked management for a trade.

iTs JusT zo · Post #1172 » by **iTs JusT zo** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:54 pm

iTs JusT zo wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

damnit guys, stop talking mumbo jumbo. is this good or bad!?!??!!? lol lol

it sounds really really bad

rcklsscognition · Post #1173 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:55 pm

iTs JusT zo wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

damnit guys, stop talking mumbo jumbo. is this good or bad!?!??!!? lol lol

Well it doesn't matter to our cap space, the 19 mil is gone, poof! We are now right around the cap with Glen Davis included. The great question will be if there is some agreement between Otis and Arenas to resign Arenas after he clears the first round of waivers. I think this is what the great majority of us believed when Otis brought him over last year.

Driguez · Post #1174 » by **Driguez** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:55 pm

iTs JusT zo wrote:
iTs JusT zo wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

damnit guys, stop talking mumbo jumbo. is this good or bad!?!??!!? lol lol

it sounds really really bad

No its not bad

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Driguez · Post #1175 » by **Driguez** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:56 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
iTs JusT zo wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:One thing is certain, the Magic have to pay the difference between his previous contract and whatever contract he gets for the next 3 years.

damnit guys, stop talking mumbo jumbo. is this good or bad!?!??!!? lol lol

Well it doesn't matter to our cap space, the 19 mil is gone, poof! We are now right around the cap with Glen Davis included. The great question will be if there is some agreement between Otis and Arenas to resign Arenas after he clears the first round of waivers. I think this is what the great majority of us believed when Otis brought him over last year.

Nope, he can't come back to us, if I'm not mistaken. Goes to the highest bidder under the cap.

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Idunkonyou2 · Post #1176 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:57 pm

The Magic have 15 million wrapped up in Redick and Nelson. Since the Magic are about 2 or 3 million under the cap, could they move those two after the season to get 18 or so million under? Would be interesting.

rcklsscognition · Post #1177 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:58 pm

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@MisterRudolph Otis and Arenas got a plan to bring him back to Orlando for the minimum?
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Nemesis21 · Post #1178 » by **Nemesis21** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:58 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
In next few hours, I expect Magic to announce signings of draft picks Justin Harper & DLiggins. Also, signing Tony Battie strong possibility

Thought somebody posted in one of the threads here, that Battie re-signed with Philly ?

rcklsscognition · Post #1179 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 7:59 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:The Magic have 15 million wrapped up in Redick and Nelson. Since the Magic are about 2 or 3 million under the cap, could they move those two after the season to get 18 or so million under? Would be interesting.

If only their deals were 1 year shorter.

shadrock · Post #1180 » by **shadrock** » Fri Dec 9, 2011 8:00 pm

What i want to know is if we have necessarily USED the MLE on Big Baby, or if we simply used cap space to sign him. According to my maths, if we amnestied Arenas, that would have put us at AROUND 57 mil, which is under the cap. Then, the S&T that sent out Bass and brought in Big Baby would require a few entra hunder thousand of cap space for it to go through, as salaries need to be within 150%. Bass was set to earn about 4 mil, and Big Baby looks like he will get around 6 mil, which is 150%. So, does this mean we still have the full MLE at our disposal??!?!