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Re: MLB Offseason Signings & Trades 

Post#141 » by El Duderino » Fri Dec 9, 2011 6:45 am

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coolhandluke121 wrote:I actually think the Angels just did the Cards a huge favor. Time will tell, but I think Pujols is gonna be a terrible contract several years down the road.


Key word there. It might be a bad contract eventually, but not for a good long while.


If I'm right about him using HGH, we could easily see a decline as early as next season. I'm not saying it will happen, but if Pujols is never an all-star again I will be less surprised than 99% of baseball fans and observers.


Who knows when he'll show really noticeable decline. It could be 2 years from now, 3 years from now, or 5-6 years from now. This stuff is nearly impossible to project with any level of certainty. Last year a 37 year old Berkman posted a .959 OPS.

So yea, no question that at some point in the contract, any team that gave Pujols a 10 year deal would be looks at some years where the contract is a big albatross. That said, if say Albert helps lead the Angels to a World Series title or two, does that cover for the Angels 3-4 years at the end of the deal where he's making 25 million and barely productive at all? Or if the Cardinals fall just short of a another title over the next 4-5 years that maybe they'd have won with him, what is that worth?

Lastly, from an Arti Moreno perspective, he might night even choose to keep owning the Angels 5-10 years from now. Then Pujols would be the new owner's problem as that new owner inherited Albert's worst decline years.

I'm simply glad that Brewers pitchers no longer have to face him about 15-20 games a year. :nod:
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Post#142 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Dec 9, 2011 3:27 pm

Deadspin writes a lot of articles about how owners have great accountants that are able to show a loss or break even basically every year.
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Post#143 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 9, 2011 4:52 pm

Matt Moore just signed a deal that could take him through two of his free agency years. It's an unreal move to lock up an ace for that long.
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Post#144 » by Kerb Hohl » Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:22 pm

My god...the Rays just kill it.
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Post#145 » by WEFFPIM » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:57 am

DBacks get Cahill and Breslow from Oakland for a couple pitchers and Colin Cowgill.

Arizona needed to sure up their rotation behind Kennedy, that's a pretty decent start.
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Post#146 » by trwi7 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:19 am

I wouldn't be shocked if Parker is better than Cahill next year.
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Post#147 » by Kerb Hohl » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:56 am

trwi7 wrote:I wouldn't be shocked if Parker is better than Cahill next year.


Agreed. Cahill isn't bad, but I'm not a huge fan of him in Arizona. Granted, he gets some @LAD, @SF, @SD matchups.
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Post#148 » by chuckleslove » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:04 pm

2 years $14 million for Furcal with the Cardinals, that seems like a bit of an overpayment to me.
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Post#149 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:20 pm

To me too, but they now have money to spend I guess.
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Post#150 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:13 am

Going back to the A's thing, if they can ever get a bat or two up to the majors and not foolishly trade guys like Carlos Gonzalez away, they will be good. That and get a healthy season out of their pitching staff. They are intelligent enough to put the right defensive players in there to prevent runs in that stadium, but their bats and pitching health on the whole are awful.

I bring that up because they've once again made a pretty good decision on pitching in a vacuum. They barely pay their staff any money, but they can't fill the rest of their roster with the savings at this point.
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Post#151 » by trwi7 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:21 pm

A's trade Gio Gonzalez to the Nationals for A.J. Cole, Brad Peacock, Derek Norris and Tom Milone. Hell of a deal for the A's.
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Post#152 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:02 pm

I like how you list the prospects like we'd know who they are.
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Post#153 » by Jollay » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:48 am

I've seen all those prospects live, more than once with the exception of Norris (only once). A's got a HAUL.

It's a risk for the Nats, but they amazingly still have the depth to compensate in their system. I live next to Nats Park and I catch alot of games, so I am happy the Nats have better potential to compete in a murderous division next year though.
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Post#154 » by trwi7 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:31 am

Beltran to the Cards. They're the favorite to win the Central.
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Post#155 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Jan 5, 2012 1:19 am

Zambrano to the Fish for Volstad.

That will be a lulz tandem with Ozzie. I despised Zambrano's antics, but I somewhat enjoy Ozzie's. We'll see.
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Post#156 » by WEFFPIM » Thu Jan 5, 2012 1:32 am

Zambrano, Reyes, Hanley and Morrison. All under Ozzie's watch, who is under Loria's watch.

Someone get some ****ing cameras on this team, stat.
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Post#157 » by chuckleslove » Thu Jan 5, 2012 2:29 am

Time for a MLB version of Hard Knocks.
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Post#158 » by Turk Nowitzki » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:05 am

chuckleslove wrote:Time for a MLB version of Hard Knocks.

I second this motion.
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Post#159 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Jan 5, 2012 3:26 am

They had that San Francisco Giants thing that was on par with Hard Knocks. I didn't see much of it, but naturally, they should do the Marlins if allowed this season.
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Re: MLB Offseason Signings & Trades 

Post#160 » by MetroDrugUnit » Thu Jan 5, 2012 1:53 pm

chuckleslove wrote:Time for a MLB version of Hard Knocks.


Instead of Hard Knocks is will be called "Smokin Rocks"

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