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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#701 » by KnicksFan007 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:26 pm

Sounds like Barea isn't coming although, Alan Hahn is so pessimistic. He was pushing the lockout to be ending the season before it even got started.

If Barea isn't coming, offer a little more to Purp, add Jamal. Wait for B-Diddy.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#702 » by 2010 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:26 pm

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For those holding out hope on JJ Barea-to-#Knicks, it's not likely he'll take room exception (2x$2.5m). So may be time to move on. #fb

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NY needs to move give shawne that exception, trade for jcraw, and sign a G of the amnesty list


This.

Shawne for "room" exception. JCrossover trade. Sign B-Diddy once he's bought-out or amnestied.

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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#703 » by mpharris36 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:26 pm

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watch the PO tape again, TD has too much to learn in short pd of time


Douglas is ready to contribute. Bad playoffs doesn't change that.

But it pushes Fields out of his starting job that he played vastly better than TD in his?



huh? TD and Fields are both starting
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#704 » by Kampuchea » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:27 pm

it makes more sense IMO for Craw to come off the bench. He should be in the game every time one of Anthony or Stat is not in the game, and all 3 of them playing in the 4th depending on if Craw is playing well or not
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Post#705 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:29 pm

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Douglas is ready to contribute. Bad playoffs doesn't change that.

But it pushes Fields out of his starting job that he played vastly better than TD in his?


I'm not advocating trading Douglas for Crawford. You are.
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Post#706 » by Phish Tank » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:29 pm

i'm not interested in giving up that much for Craw. The only difference I see from the Crawford I saw on the Knicks and the Crawford since then is that he has a lot more tattoos now. :lol:

I'll pass. I'll take TD
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#707 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:29 pm

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Falstaffxx wrote:Douglas is ready to contribute. Bad playoffs doesn't change that.

But it pushes Fields out of his starting job that he played vastly better than TD in his?



huh? TD and Fields are both starting

Not according to the person I responded to.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#708 » by mpharris36 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:29 pm

call me crazy but if melo or amare are doubled and have to kick it out for 3 i trust TD hitting the open 3 more so then crawford. Crawford is a rythm shooter. It doesn't matter if he is guarded or not if he is hot he makes it but a lot of times he is bricking shots left a right. I think TD is more consistent.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#709 » by gavran » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:30 pm

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Rasho Brezec wrote:I just don't see how Crawford can be effective in helping a team win, starting or being the 6th man. He doesn't know how to play if he doesn't have the ball in his hands. 44% of his FG's come from someone else passing him, league average for SG's is 58%. Jason Terry, the ultimate 6th man for example, has 60% of his FG assisted with better shooting percentages.


Amare and Melo arent going to play the whole game. Whenever one or both of them sits Jamal will come in and do his thing as the second fiddle. LIke he did with Joe Johnson, Horford, and Smith. At least half of his minutes will be with Melo and/or Amare off the court. We need a 3rd scoring option either way and Im not sure Douglas is up to the task.

Yeah, but here's the thing. What he did in Atlanta wasn't effective. It was below average. If he was a FA, whatever, take a chance on him, but trading our only proven capable defender at PG in Toney is not worth it.

His first year in Atlanta he was pretty effective (57 TS%), and that was under Woodson. Next season, he was still above average (54,5TS%), but nothing great. Crawford's legendery innefficiency is a completely overstated thing, because people are looking at his FG%, and FG% only. He had one below average season (in 2007, when he was injured and missed 22 games) since joining the Knicks in 2004.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#710 » by KnicksFan007 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:30 pm

If it's a 3 way with Golden State, I wonder if we can somehow get Jeremy Lin signed and traded with Crawford.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#711 » by 2010 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:31 pm

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For those holding out hope on JJ Barea-to-#Knicks, it's not likely he'll take room exception (2x$2.5m). So may be time to move on. #fb

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Good news!


how so

this team needs a pg who can break things down/set up people


Dudes are letting the fact Barea had a good playoffs give them illusions of granduer. Signing Barea is reaching as our roster is presently constituted. Davis is absolutely the better fit at starting PG over him. Barea is barely bigger than Nate Robinson. He's a defensive liability, a shoot-first PG and really just not all that good. We sign him and by game 10 we will all turn on him. I hope he's really about our paper if only to save us from ourselves.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#712 » by cgmw » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:31 pm

So the All-Rumor Team is presently:

5. Chandler
4. Stoudemire
3. Anthony
2. Crawford
1. Bibby
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6. Fields
7. Sh. Williams
8. Shumpert
9. Jordan
10. Harrelson
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#713 » by AllanHoustonFan » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:31 pm

KnicksFan007 wrote:If it's a 3 way with Golden State, I wonder if we can somehow get Jeremy Lin signed and traded with Crawford.


Jeremy Lin was released the other day.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#714 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:31 pm

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huh? TD and Fields are both starting

Not according to the person I responded to.


But I'm not advocating acquiring Crawford. You are.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#715 » by KnicksFan007 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:32 pm

vdfebduderocks wrote:i'm not interested in giving up that much for Craw. The only difference I see from the Crawford I saw on the Knicks and the Crawford since then is that he has a lot more tattoos now. :lol:

I'll pass. I'll take TD

You call Douglas, Walker and Balkman too much?
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Post#716 » by Red Vines » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:32 pm

mpharris36 wrote:call me crazy but if melo or amare are doubled and have to kick it out for 3 i trust TD hitting the open 3 more so then crawford. Crawford is a rythm shooter. It doesn't matter if he is guarded or not if he is hot he makes it but a lot of times he is bricking shots left a right. I think TD is more consistent.


If it's just a spot up 3, sure, but Crawford can score every way possible. When TD is out there the defense knows he's not going to drive so you just run out and try to block the shot, JC is a much bigger threat.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#717 » by The_Philosopher » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:32 pm

cgmw wrote:So the All-Rumor Team is presently:

5. Chandler
4. Stoudemire
3. Anthony
2. Crawford
1. Bibby
--
6. Fields
7. Sh. Williams
8. Shumpert
9. Jordan
10. Harrelson


Wow, we'd actually downgrade our starting backcourt.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#718 » by Falstaffxx » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:33 pm

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vdfebduderocks wrote:i'm not interested in giving up that much for Craw. The only difference I see from the Crawford I saw on the Knicks and the Crawford since then is that he has a lot more tattoos now. :lol:

I'll pass. I'll take TD

You call Douglas, Walker and Balkman too much?


If you'd rather have Douglas than Crawford, which I think I would.
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#719 » by mpharris36 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:33 pm

cgmw wrote:So the All-Rumor Team is presently:

5. Chandler
4. Stoudemire
3. Anthony
2. Crawford
1. Bibby
--
6. Fields
7. Sh. Williams
8. Shumpert
9. Jordan
10. Harrelson


i dont like it...i would rather have TD and Fields as my starters. Better defensively and rebounding wise
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Re: Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford? 

Post#720 » by KnicksFan007 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:34 pm

I just remembered: A trade for Crawford puts us over the cap, which in turn gives us the full $5m mid level (instead of the $2.5m mid level for teams under the cap) If I'm not mistaken.

We could add that defensive SG or PG. C'mon Barea.

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