Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford?

[Falstaffxx]

Dudes are letting the fact Barea had a good playoffs give them illusions of granduer. Signing Barea is reaching as our roster is presently constituted. Davis is absolutely the better fit at starting PG over him. Barea is barely bigger than Nate Robinson. He's a defensive liability, a shoot-first PG and really just not all that good. We sign him and by game 10 we will all turn on him. I hope he's really about our paper if only to save us from ourselves.

Barea not signing here doesn't mean we necessarily get Davis.

[MSG]

I don't want Crawford anywhere near the Knicks.

Isiah doing all he can to **** up the Knicks again.

[Red Vines]

Wow, we'd actually downgrade our starting backcourt.

We would have been better against Boston in the playoffs with Bibby and Jamal than TD and Fields.

[mpharris36]

call me crazy but if melo or amare are doubled and have to kick it out for 3 i trust TD hitting the open 3 more so then crawford. Crawford is a rythm shooter. It doesn't matter if he is guarded or not if he is hot he makes it but a lot of times he is bricking shots left a right. I think TD is more consistent.

If it's just a spot up 3, sure, but Crawford can score every way possible. When TD is out there the defense knows he's not going to drive so you just run out and try to block the shot, JC is a much bigger threat.

yes but TD knows how to defer to our "real" superstars. My question to u is when do u think Crawford will know when the quiet it. TD my swing that last pass to melo which i want shooting rather that crawford chucking it.

Sure crawford is more diverse offensively but what about TD defense...crawford plays "zero" defense!

[mpharris36]

Wow, we'd actually downgrade our starting backcourt.

We would have been better against Boston in the playoffs with Bibby and Jamal than TD and Fields.

there both kids give them a shot to improve jeez!

[2010]

I just remembered: A trade for Crawford puts us over the cap, which in turn gives us the full $5m mid level (instead of the $2.5m mid level for teams under the cap) If I'm not mistaken.

We could add that defensive SG or PG. C'mon Barea.

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. If you go below the cap at any point in the offseason you must renounce your MLE and become eligible for the "room" exception.

[Falstaffxx]

If it's just a spot up 3, sure, but Crawford can score every way possible. When TD is out there the defense knows he's not going to drive so you just run out and try to block the shot, JC is a much bigger threat.

The idea that Crawford is great at penetrating is a fiction.

[Thugger HBC]

Not according to the person I responded to.

But I'm not advocating acquiring Crawford. You are.

I"m advocating him for the role he won his award for...six man of the year, where we have the coach he played for when he won it.

You seem it's better to take that logic, toss it out the window, because you want to believe you know more than his coach.

[2010]

Dudes are letting the fact Barea had a good playoffs give them illusions of granduer. Signing Barea is reaching as our roster is presently constituted. Davis is absolutely the better fit at starting PG over him. Barea is barely bigger than Nate Robinson. He's a defensive liability, a shoot-first PG and really just not all that good. We sign him and by game 10 we will all turn on him. I hope he's really about our paper if only to save us from ourselves.

Barea not signing here doesn't mean we necessarily get Davis.

But Barea not signing here at least leaves us a shot in case Davis is jettisoned. However, on the flipside if Barae *IS* signed we have no more room in the backcourt if Davis becomes available.

[NoLayupRule]

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Shawne for "room" exception. JCrossover trade. Sign B-Diddy once he's bought-out or amnestied.

PG: Davis / Bibby
SG: Shumpert / Crawford
SF: Anthony / Fields
PF: Stoudemire / Williams / Harrellson
C: Chandler / Jeffries / Jordan

I go to war with that 12 man active roster all day! Proven vets with some young talent we can develop while competing for a championship (Shumpert, Fields, Jordan and Harrellson).

Id be psyched with that lineup opening night.

Honestly I'll be very sad to lose TD as he's a solid player with more upside than he's shown IMO. But Davis and Jamal are both ready to contribute to a contending team. Though I think Davis goes to the lakers.

Jamal isn't a pg in any sense of the word. The only ones who ever thought so were he and isiah.
But Jamal can get that ball up the floor and into Amare or Carmelo's hands as well as anyone else.

And I think Jamal's catch and shoot ability - especially from three where he has infinite range - is underrated. I've seen him catch and shoot out of that corner plenty of times.

We really desperately do need a pick and roll player on this team for both amare and chandler but we can go to war with this crew until that comes.

[2010]

Alan Hahn @alanhahn
Scrimmage time, Toney running PG with starters. Bibby on second team. #Knicks

[Falstaffxx]

Not according to the person I responded to.

But I'm not advocating acquiring Crawford. You are.

I"m advocating him for the role he won his award for...six man of the year, where we have the coach he played for when he won it.

You seem it's better to take that logic, toss it out the window, because you want to believe you know more than his coach.

But you're talking about Fields being better than Douglas, which is irrelevant because Douglas would be gone in the Crawford trade, which I'm not advocating. Nowhere in this equation does Douglas vs. Fields come into play.

[Thugger HBC]

If it's just a spot up 3, sure, but Crawford can score every way possible. When TD is out there the defense knows he's not going to drive so you just run out and try to block the shot, JC is a much bigger threat.

The idea that Crawford is great at penetrating is a fiction.

That's sig worthy.

Crawford is one of the best at breaking down defenses and penetrating.

[NYK_89]

Good news!

how so

this team needs a pg who can break things down/set up people

Dudes are letting the fact Barea had a good playoffs give them illusions of granduer. Signing Barea is reaching as our roster is presently constituted. Davis is absolutely the better fit at starting PG over him. Barea is barely bigger than Nate Robinson. He's a defensive liability, a shoot-first PG and really just not all that good. We sign him and by game 10 we will all turn on him. I hope he's really about our paper if only to save us from ourselves.

There is a very very good chance we do not get davis man then we are left with nothing

[Thugger HBC]

But I'm not advocating acquiring Crawford. You are.

I"m advocating him for the role he won his award for...six man of the year, where we have the coach he played for when he won it.

You seem it's better to take that logic, toss it out the window, because you want to believe you know more than his coach.

But you're talking about Fields being better than Douglas, which is irrelevant because Douglas would be gone in the Crawford trade, which I'm not advocating. Nowhere in this equation does Douglas vs. Fields come into play.

Fields is our starting 2 guard, you are the only one who seems to think Crawford would get it.

Where am I saying Fields is better than Douglas?

Show me.

[ctorres]

Alan Hahn @alanhahn
Scrimmage time, Toney running PG with starters. Bibby on second team. #Knicks

I'm sure they'll try Bibby with the starters and Toney with the second team as well. This is just one scrimmage of many to come.

[Falstaffxx]

Dudes are letting the fact Barea had a good playoffs give them illusions of granduer. Signing Barea is reaching as our roster is presently constituted. Davis is absolutely the better fit at starting PG over him. Barea is barely bigger than Nate Robinson. He's a defensive liability, a shoot-first PG and really just not all that good. We sign him and by game 10 we will all turn on him. I hope he's really about our paper if only to save us from ourselves.

Barea not signing here doesn't mean we necessarily get Davis.

But Barea not signing here at least leaves us a shot in case Davis is jettisoned. However, on the flipside if Barae *IS* signed we have no more room in the backcourt if Davis becomes available.

If we end up landing Davis then I'll be happy, but I can't cheer for missing out on a player that would help in the hopes that we can get a player who hasn't even been cut yet.

[gavran]

If it's just a spot up 3, sure, but Crawford can score every way possible. When TD is out there the defense knows he's not going to drive so you just run out and try to block the shot, JC is a much bigger threat.

The idea that Crawford is great at penetrating is a fiction.

That's sig worthy.

Crawford is one of the best at breaking down defenses and penetrating.

He has the talent, but not the desire to penetrate. That's one of the negatives.

[KnicksFan007]

I just remembered: A trade for Crawford puts us over the cap, which in turn gives us the full $5m mid level (instead of the $2.5m mid level for teams under the cap) If I'm not mistaken.

We could add that defensive SG or PG. C'mon Barea.

I'm pretty sure this is incorrect. If you go below the cap at any point in the offseason you must renounce your MLE and become eligible for the "room" exception.

Just checked, your right. How long until we reach the luxury tax? Because we are certainly build that sort of team.

[Red Vines]

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