2011-12 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread Pt II

[TheRaptor!]

Lakers need PFs and PGs, 3 way trade to get Calderon and Amir there?

[bboyskinnylegs]

Lakers need PFs and PGs, 3 way trade to get Calderon and Amir there?

what could we possibly get back in such a trade? Calderon and Amir are owed around 16 million this year, so unless the Lakers are willing to give up on acquiring Dwight to send us one of their core pieces, they only have crap contracts to send back.

[TheRaptor!]

Lakers need PFs and PGs, 3 way trade to get Calderon and Amir there?

what could we possibly get back in such a trade? Calderon and Amir are owed around 16 million this year, so unless the Lakers are willing to give up on acquiring Dwight to send us one of their core pieces, they only have crap contracts to send back.

Absolutely no idea, just threw that out there.

[Rapsfan07]

What do you guys think about

Barbosa + Kleiza + 2012 second round pick for Deng and Gibson

This is straight up stupid from the Bulls perspective. They won't do it.

Best trade I can think of on no sleep lol.

Raps trade Bargnani

Detroit trades 1st round draft pick (2012)

Detroit gambles on a Bargnani Monroe front could which I could actually see working out not too bad for them. They get their replacement for Villanueva before amnestying him.

We could potentially have 2 lottery picks which means more ping pong balls!!!

I'd do it in heartbeat. Detroit won't do it though.

[bassmastert]

What do you guys think about

Barbosa + Kleiza + 2012 second round pick for Deng and Gibson

This is straight up stupid from the Bulls perspective. They won't do it.

Best trade I can think of on no sleep lol.

Raps trade Bargnani

Detroit trades 1st round draft pick (2012)

Detroit gambles on a Bargnani Monroe front could which I could actually see working out not too bad for them. They get their replacement for Villanueva before amnestying him.

We could potentially have 2 lottery picks which means more ping pong balls!!!

I'd do it in heartbeat. Detroit won't do it though.

What if we sweeten the deal?

Bargs+Davis for Villanueva + 1st rounder? Detroit would also have their amnesty clause intact and we bring Villanueva back home.

2012 roster for us:

Valanciunas/Gray/Magloire (another vet min 1 year deal)
Drummond/Amir
Barnes/Johnson/Kleiza
DeRozan/Weems (returning)/Butler
Bayless (or Marshall/Kabongo if we miss Drummond)/Calderon

I think it could be possible since Detroit's signings of Villanueva and Gordon scream impatience from Detroit's GM. We would be incredibly young still which could mean another lotto year for us but we'd have a lot of pieces in place.

[Cool-Hand-Luke]

No to CharlieV. He is grossly overpaid and contributes nothing but domestic assault police reports.

[bassmastert]

No to CharlieV. He is grossly overpaid and contributes nothing but domestic assault police reports.

You wouldn't take on Charlie for another lotto pick in a 2012 stacked draft? He wouldn't be playing much for us and hell we could use our amnesty clause on him.

[Rapsfan07]

I'd explore every other possible deal before settling for this one. The difference between Bargs and CV isn't big enough for us to have to include Ed.

Plus, if I understand the new amnesty rule correctly, teams will not be able to trade and amnesty. You'll only be able to amnestly players that were on your roster prior to the end of the last CBA deal.

Bucks haven't made any moves yet. Maybe they'd be willing to take Bargs for their 1st? Maybe NO will be interested? I sure hope he's moved soon though.

But if this was the the best return possible for Bargs, I'd pull the trigger without Ed involved. But I doubt DET likes it. CV is cheaper and isn't worth a lottery pick in this draft to get rid of.

[bassmastert]

I'd explore every other possible deal before settling for this one. The difference between Bargs and CV isn't big enough for us to have to include Ed.

Plus, if I understand the new amnesty rule correctly, teams will not be able to trade and amnesty. You'll only be able to amnestly players that were on your roster prior to the end of the last CBA deal.

Bucks haven't made any moves yet. Maybe they'd be willing to take Bargs for their 1st? Maybe NO will be interested? I sure hope he's moved soon though.

But if this was the the best return possible for Bargs, I'd pull the trigger without Ed involved. But I doubt DET likes it. CV is cheaper and isn't worth a lottery pick in this draft to get rid of.

A Bogut/Bargs frontcourt wouldn't be too bad. If we could do Bargs for their 1st round pick I'd definitely consider it.

I probably wasn't clear about the amnesty being only with your current group before the CBA. There were other reasons why I included Ed (even though they are pure speculation).

-We have someone similar and slighty older in Amir that seems to love playing here
-RealGM posters at least think Ed may bolt after his rookie contract (pure speculation)

I figured this trade would give us a better shot at 2 top 5 picks. Detroit seems to be in win-now mode even though their team is inferior so we could take advantage.

[Cliff Levingston]

What do you guys think of a deal based on Barbosa for C.J. Watson and Brewer? All are expiring after this season and the Raps would take on a little more salary in the deal which could be offset by a simple payment from the Bulls to the Raps.

It gives the Raptors a lot more defensive ability in the backcourt mostly via Brewer but Watson is solid there too. The Bulls could use Barbosa's offense off the bench more than the defense we already have an abundance of.

[bboyskinnylegs]

What do you guys think of a deal based on Barbosa for C.J. Watson and Brewer? All are expiring after this season and the Raps would take on a little more salary in the deal which could be offset by a simple payment from the Bulls to the Raps.

It gives the Raptors a lot more defensive ability in the backcourt mostly via Brewer but Watson is solid there too. The Bulls could use Barbosa's offense off the bench more than the defense we already have an abundance of.

If the Bulls include their pick, I'd do some sort of trade centered around Barbosa for whatever expiring contracts they want to move. We really don't care who specifically comes back since we're committed to playing and developing our young guys this year, it's all about grabbing the late pick and opening up more playing time for Bayless imo. I thought Barbosa for Watson+Bogans+Pargo+Lucas+Bulls pick was one the Bulls might be more interested in, but if they want to swap in Brewer instead of Pargo/Lucas/Bogans, that's fine too.

[Cliff Levingston]

What do you guys think of a deal based on Barbosa for C.J. Watson and Brewer? All are expiring after this season and the Raps would take on a little more salary in the deal which could be offset by a simple payment from the Bulls to the Raps.

It gives the Raptors a lot more defensive ability in the backcourt mostly via Brewer but Watson is solid there too. The Bulls could use Barbosa's offense off the bench more than the defense we already have an abundance of.

If the Bulls include their pick, I'd do some sort of trade centered around Barbosa for whatever expiring contracts they want to move. We really don't care who specifically comes back since we're committed to playing and developing our young guys this year, it's all about grabbing the late pick and opening up more playing time for Bayless imo. I thought Barbosa for Watson+Bogans+Pargo+Lucas+Bulls pick was one the Bulls might be more interested in, but if they want to swap in Brewer instead of Pargo/Lucas/Bogans, that's fine too.

That would definitely be better from a talent standpoint, but the Bulls seem unwilling to spend money. Considering he's expiring though, Cliff Levingston bets that would be a workable deal.

[Throwback24]

We need someone like Tim Tebow on our team. Who's the NBA equivalent? Adam Morrison?

[douggood]

i would love to score the twolves pick the clippers have, although wolves will be improved its still gonna be a lotto pick.

Gotta get involved in a potential cp3 trade to clippers.
we can pawn off ed davis/amir to NO.

NO - kaman gordon bledsoe (ed davis)+ clippers pick
Clippers - Paul + ariza
Tor - min pick

Its a risk for the raptors, but the twovles are one injury away from klove from being a top 5 pick. otherwise its still a 6-14 pick.

Frees up a big man jam especially with JV coming next season and next years draft being big heavy. And i love davis but i dont see who else we can pawn to get that twolves pick. Gotta roll the dice.

[DreamTeam09]

^^ That is actually a pretty good deal. Gordon is going to stay, so it'd be like aminu + bledsoe + Kaman + Clippers pick + ed davis

clippers get paul + ariza

Toronto gets minny pick, sweet.

I had another deal in my head but I didn't wanna post it.

To Memphis - Josh Mcroberts + B.Rush or Dahntay Jones
To Indy - Barbosa + Ed Davis
To Toronto - OJ Mayo + Indy pick

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

What do you guys think of a deal based on Barbosa for C.J. Watson and Brewer? All are expiring after this season and the Raps would take on a little more salary in the deal which could be offset by a simple payment from the Bulls to the Raps.

It gives the Raptors a lot more defensive ability in the backcourt mostly via Brewer but Watson is solid there too. The Bulls could use Barbosa's offense off the bench more than the defense we already have an abundance of.

We'll do it, especially if it includes Brewer. But, even if it doesn't, we'll still do it, so long as that 1st rd. pick is part of the deal.

Now, all you have to do, is convince Paxson to pull the trigger. I think Colangelo would be happy to send Barbosa to a contender.

[Rapsfan07]

i would love to score the twolves pick the clippers have, although wolves will be improved its still gonna be a lotto pick.

Gotta get involved in a potential cp3 trade to clippers.
we can pawn off ed davis/amir to NO.

NO - kaman gordon bledsoe (ed davis)+ clippers pick
Clippers - Paul + ariza
Tor - min pick

Its a risk for the raptors, but the twovles are one injury away from klove from being a top 5 pick. otherwise its still a 6-14 pick.

Frees up a big man jam especially with JV coming next season and next years draft being big heavy. And i love davis but i dont see who else we can pawn to get that twolves pick. Gotta roll the dice.

I don't think the Clippers like this deal too much.

Now I could be wrong but I don't think Clippers own their 2012 pick...I believe Boston does. That being said, I'm 100% sure that the Minny will be part of the CP3 deal. NO would be stupid not to have it included.

^^ That is actually a pretty good deal. Gordon is going to stay, so it'd be like aminu + bledsoe + Kaman + Clippers pick + ed davis

clippers get paul + ariza

Toronto gets minny pick, sweet.

I had another deal in my head but I didn't wanna post it.

To Memphis - Josh Mcroberts + B.Rush or Dahntay Jones
To Indy - Barbosa + Ed Davis
To Toronto - OJ Mayo + Indy pick

Meh. Not sure I like this too much. Indy will be in the playoffs this year again possibly making a deeper run and Mayo will will be looking to get paid after this season is done and who knows whether he breaks out or becomes a 6th man type...either way, it's not worth the price of Ed Davis to find out. And worst case scenario, if Mayo is not retained, it would basically be like we gave Davis away for a pick outside the lotto. Not worth it for us. I would faster do Barbosa + 2013 top 16 protected to take a flier on Mayo

[DreamTeam09]

^^ I agree too, I was trying to get memphis to give us their pick to, but I see no incentive in them doing that. I don't get what mayo could possibly ask for either, anything more than the MLE would be too much for him even if he breaks out in his contract yr. Still it isn't enough imo to give up for ed unless mayo resigned for cheap

[Cliff Levingston]

We'll do it, especially if it includes Brewer. But, even if it doesn't, we'll still do it, so long as that 1st rd. pick is part of the deal.

Now, all you have to do, is convince Paxson to pull the trigger. I think Colangelo would be happy to send Barbosa to a contender.

Considering that the 1st round pick seems to be the most critical part of a deal, Cliff Levingston has settled on a Korver + Pargo (unguaranteed) for Barbosa deal, including the 1st round pick, of course. Raptors save about $1.5 million by way of Korver's $500k buyout for next season and pick up the pick as part of it. That would be better from a talent standpoint for the Bulls as Barbosa isn't the sharpshooter Korver is but offers so much more by way of play making, scoring and ball handling. Brewer would assume backup 3 responsibilities along with Jimmy Butler. Korver can fill in for the Raps on a limited basis as a backup 2/3. Seems like a pretty decent deal both ways, ICLO.

[Rapsfan07]

We'll do it, especially if it includes Brewer. But, even if it doesn't, we'll still do it, so long as that 1st rd. pick is part of the deal.

Now, all you have to do, is convince Paxson to pull the trigger. I think Colangelo would be happy to send Barbosa to a contender.

Considering that the 1st round pick seems to be the most critical part of a deal, Cliff Levingston has settled on a Korver + Pargo (unguaranteed) for Barbosa deal, including the 1st round pick, of course. Raptors save about $1.5 million by way of Korver's $500k buyout for next season and pick up the pick as part of it. That would be better from a talent standpoint for the Bulls as Barbosa isn't the sharpshooter Korver is but offers so much more by way of play making, scoring and ball handling. Brewer would assume backup 3 responsibilities along with Jimmy Butler. Korver can fill in for the Raps on a limited basis as a backup 2/3. Seems like a pretty decent deal both ways, ICLO.

I don't think the Bulls like the idea of trading Korver AND their first round pick. I think it's either CHI 2012 1st + unguaranteed deal for Barbosa or their not including their pick.

As a matter of fact, who knows if that deal still has legs...they may be after Rip Hamilton.