Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt V, Mods Close)

Rick Rolled · Post #861 » by **Rick Rolled** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:33 pm

KevinDing KEVIN DING
I'm told there's no way Lakers are trading Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

meatwad4343 · Post #862 » by **meatwad4343** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:34 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
KevinDing KEVIN DING
I'm told there's no way Lakers are trading Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

then theres no way we are trading dwight to the lakers.

wfiles · Post #863 » by **wfiles** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:34 pm

MitchellUK wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:bad news for us. they already dumped odom. They are trying to make a push to get under the cap so orlando has no other option but to trade dwight to them.

If reports are correct, it would have been a three team deal - Gasol to GSW, Steph Curry and pieces to NOH, Paul to L.A.

If it really was in order to land Paul, all the salary dumping in the world wouldn't be enough to get them Dwight as a FA with CP3 and Kobe on the roster.

Acutally the Lakers could.
Kobe's 2012 salary is $27.8 million.
They could amnesty Artest. Walton will retire. They would only need to trade Fisher and Blake for expiring.
The only contract they would have is Kobe's $27.8 mil
Thats about about $30 mil for CP3 and Howard.
It could be more is Kobe restructures his contract.

rcklsscognition · Post #864 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:36 pm

JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
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@ryankroberson No chance Fran Vazquez plays for the Magic this season. Next season, yes, a strong chance. Not this one, though.

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Nemesis21 · Post #865 » by **Nemesis21** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:39 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
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@ryankroberson No chance Fran Vazquez plays for the Magic this season. Next season, yes, a strong chance. Not this one, though.

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More like no chance he ever plays for the Magic.

Nemesis21 · Post #866 » by **Nemesis21** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:40 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
KevinDing KEVIN DING
I'm told there's no way Lakers are trading Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

Is Ding related to Ping ?

gp123 · Post #867 » by **gp123** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:40 pm

Rockets have a rocket for the gasols

InFlames · Post #868 » by **InFlames** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:40 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
@
@ryankroberson No chance Fran Vazquez plays for the Magic this season. Next season, yes, a strong chance. Not this one, though.

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Don't believe it.

SubyWill · Post #869 » by **SubyWill** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:42 pm

meatwad4343 wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
KevinDing KEVIN DING
I'm told there's no way Lakers are trading Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

then theres no way we are trading dwight to the lakers.

This. No way Otis can just accept Bynum. He can't be that stupid.

Rick Rolled · Post #870 » by **Rick Rolled** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:44 pm

Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
After trading Odom, are Lakers about to get Howard or maybe revisit Paul trade again? Source: "There's nothing going on."

woosah · Post #871 » by **woosah** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:46 pm

Dwight must have assured them he is coming, because i don't see NJ doing anything to get the trade. LA doesn't get rid of assets for nothing. I still don't think we will take Bynum.

SolidSnake008 · Post #872 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:46 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
KevinDing KEVIN DING
I'm told there's no way Lakers are trading Bynum and Gasol for Dwight Howard.

westillhaveJJ · Post #873 » by **westillhaveJJ** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:47 pm

So if, IF we do make the trade for Bynum and pieces, what about bringing in another team to take Bynum if we are so worried about his knees. With Memphis possibly losing Gasol we could get Rudy Gay, Mayo and maybe a pick.

Or Clippers since they might lose Jordan. Aminu, Bledsoe, Min pick and their pick

Wolves have some young talent. I would love Rubio but dont think that will happen.

GSW for Curry picks and young players

Bobcats for young talent and picks

Cavs for picks and shed salary

Nuggets if they lose Nene

On another note I had a crazy dream of a trade (I was playing 2k12 all night so that might be why)
It was like a 6 team trade. Cant remember the exact details though. I just remember out team was basically:
CP3
Mayo/Redick
Granger
Donatas motiejunas
Noah

Not to bad.

BelgianMagic · Post #874 » by **BelgianMagic** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:48 pm

@Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
After trading Odom, are Lakers about to get Howard or maybe revisit Paul trade again? Source: "There's nothing going on."

I guess he "Likes his team" :lol:

cb1115 · Post #875 » by **cb1115** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:53 pm

Maybe Otis was telling the truth when he said we aren't trading Dwight.

He better have some kind of deal lined up, then.

arkknight1988 · Post #876 » by **arkknight1988** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:55 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
@Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
After trading Odom, are Lakers about to get Howard or maybe revisit Paul trade again? Source: "There's nothing going on."

I guess he "Likes his team"

i don't believe it. lakers are too sneaky to just give up

SolidSnake008 · Post #877 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:56 pm

No training camp today right?

MitchellUK · Post #878 » by **MitchellUK** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:00 pm

wfiles wrote:
MitchellUK wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:bad news for us. they already dumped odom. They are trying to make a push to get under the cap so orlando has no other option but to trade dwight to them.

If reports are correct, it would have been a three team deal - Gasol to GSW, Steph Curry and pieces to NOH, Paul to L.A.

If it really was in order to land Paul, all the salary dumping in the world wouldn't be enough to get them Dwight as a FA with CP3 and Kobe on the roster.

Acutally the Lakers could.
Kobe's 2012 salary is $27.8 million.
They could amnesty Artest. Walton will retire. They would only need to trade Fisher and Blake for expiring.
The only contract they would have is Kobe's $27.8 mil
Thats about about $30 mil for CP3 and Howard.
It could be more is Kobe restructures his contract.

Paul's cap hold against the Lakers next summer would be $21m or so, leaving $10m or so for Dwight. Maybe they are both willing to take a pay cut to make it work - however if one or both of them is not there by Jan 1st, then L.A doesn't have their Bird rights. A 4 year deal starting at $15m and with 4.5% raises (which is all they are allowed if they don't have Bird rights) is worth about $64m, or almost $50m less than they could get over five years with their current teams.

Also, the restructuring rule hasn't been made 100% clear yet. I know deals can now be negotiated down, but in the past, a player had to be at least 3 years removed from signing the contract before he could re-negotiate it at all - Kobe's most recent extension was signed in July 2010. If that rule still stands, he can't re-negotiate. Even if he can, you're relying on a man reaching the end of his career being willing to give back a lot of money. If Dwight and/or Paul aren't in L.A by the beginning of January, he'd have to give back a huge chunk of money in order for either of them to get a deal approaching fair for their ability and worth.

Fact remains, if one of CP3 or Dwight lands in L.A via trade, the other will have to too, because signing outright as a free agent is going to be exceptionally difficult and probably cost them a lot of money.

chunnyboy · Post #879 » by **chunnyboy** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:04 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:No training camp today right?

no there is - started just now- should end around 6

JazzItUp13 · Post #880 » by **JazzItUp13** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:08 pm

so howard didn't want arenas waived? WOW...but smith did it anyways. LOL
i wonder other moves howard didn't want that smith said f it i'm doing it.