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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1401 » by Darth Magic » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:29 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Just caught the Dwight interview today, and wow...

I don't care if he's scapegoating the front office, if he says he's leaving because of the GM, it's a no brainer to me. Fire Otis. The ego on Otis amazes me. How can this guy refuse to acknowledge he has a problem with his star player. Again, this team can be good with slight changes, but if Otis is here for the long haul, then that's not proving anything to Dwight.


We've had a super star get a coach fired, now we are gonna let our super star fire our GM?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1402 » by MitchellUK » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:38 am

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VGOSWAMI wrote:Just caught the Dwight interview today, and wow...

I don't care if he's scapegoating the front office, if he says he's leaving because of the GM, it's a no brainer to me. Fire Otis. The ego on Otis amazes me. How can this guy refuse to acknowledge he has a problem with his star player. Again, this team can be good with slight changes, but if Otis is here for the long haul, then that's not proving anything to Dwight.


We've had a super star get a coach fired, now we are gonna let our super star fire our GM?


I find that all a little unsavoury, too, and I would never call for someone to lose their job.

However, I look at the current situation from this point of view - it really doesn't matter too much if Otis did or did not consult/listen to Dwight when making roster moves. If he wanted to consult Dwight, then fair enough, I know many GMs do ask for input from their star players. If he didn't, then also fine; he is the GM, and they are his decisions to make.

But that last sentence brings us back to the meat of it: they are Otis Smith's decisions to make, and whether he made them as moves to appease Dwight Howard, or if he made them independent of Dwight's input, they were not good roster moves. He either should have been strong enough to tell Dwight that the players Dwight wanted (or losing the players we gave up to get the players Dwight wanted) would not be of benefit to the team, or otherwise he made these moves of his own accord and got them horribly wrong.

One way or another, I find potentially losing the greatest player in our team's history (and I mean that 100% - Orlando Shaq was pre-prime and wasn't here long enough) due to our front office's inability to construct a good team for him hard to take.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1403 » by magic_turk » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:50 am

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1404 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:53 am

Oh SH*T

CP3 to Clippers deal almost complete .. it's on ESPN/SportsCenter Developing Story... Gordon will be included in the deal
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1405 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:56 am

magic_turk wrote:Orlando welcomes you 8-)

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dang that's sick... this guy would keep Dwight here for sure lol... sigh :(
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1406 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:58 am

Guess they closed the gap in the deal sometime in the last few hours... wow CP3/Griffin is going to be crazy to watch
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1407 » by MitchellUK » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:58 am

DJRajX wrote:Oh SH*T

CP3 to Clippers deal almost complete .. it's on ESPN/SportsCenter Developing Story... Gordon will be included in the deal


What's the source? It's going to be fun when the Lakers aren't the best team in their own building, but damn, LAL players/FO/fans have to be pissed that their deal got pulled and he ended up on the Clippers instead.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1408 » by magic_turk » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:58 am

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magic_turk wrote:Orlando welcomes you 8-)

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dang that's sick... this guy would keep Dwight here for sure lol... sigh :(


Tell me about it lol, he suits the Magic uni so well I want him here :cry:
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1409 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:00 pm

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DJRajX wrote:Oh SH*T

CP3 to Clippers deal almost complete .. it's on ESPN/SportsCenter Developing Story... Gordon will be included in the deal


What's the source? It's going to be fun when the Lakers aren't the best team in their own building, but damn, LAL players/FO/fans have to be pissed that their deal got pulled and he ended up on the Clippers instead.

source was just watching ESPN2's Mike and Mike In the Morning... then the bottom SportsCenter scrolling breaking news alert popped up mentioning the deal.

then i checked twitter, insidehoops confirming the same... i just posted it ^^ ... apparently they had the jump/newsbreak on the deal in the middle of the night
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1410 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:02 pm

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magic_turk wrote:Orlando welcomes you 8-)

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dang that's sick... this guy would keep Dwight here for sure lol... sigh :(


Tell me about it lol, he suits the Magic uni so well I want him here :cry:

me too... well with CP3 "supposedly" now heading to the Clippers... I wonder if Magic FO will try to flip J-Rich to GSW for Monta? .. who knows.. we haven't "officially" re-signed J-Rich yet.. he'll be re-signed TODAY.. can he still be traded.. within the first 20 or 30 days after being re-signed, right?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1411 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:05 pm

Clippers are close to deal for Chris Paul with Hornets
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... 4538.story


NOH are getting a great package back for CP3 imo... w/ Gordon included... wayyy better than the garbage LA and Houston was offering them
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1412 » by magic_turk » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:07 pm

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Clippers are close to deal for Chris Paul with Hornets
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... 4538.story


NOH are getting a great package back for CP3 imo... w/ Gordon included... wayyy better than the garbage LA and Houston was offering them


Woah that's alot of young talent! Waaaaaaay better then what they were receiving :o
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1413 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:09 pm

WOW... this is why they finally included Gordon... tweeted just now

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1414 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:11 pm

clear cap space and tell Dwight we're going ALL-IN for Paul. What teams have capspace in 2013?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1415 » by cb1115 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:17 pm

Clippers are going to be scary. They'll be a fun team watch in the playoffs while we're rebuilding.

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1416 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:21 pm

lol Christmas day... Clippers vs Warriors... I get to watch two guys Otis couldn't get (CP3 and Ellis) battle it out

Well... I guess Otis still has a chance some how w/ Ellis... #wishfulthinking
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1417 » by Bensational » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:25 pm

if they get:

Min pick + Gordon + Aminu + Bledsoe + Kaman

then they're in great shape to rebuild.

they could flip Kaman for Josh Smith or Iggy...

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1418 » by RookieStar » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:28 pm

So.... Monta, Iggy and SJax are left in Dwight's wish list right?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1419 » by ADRajX » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:31 pm

RookieStar wrote:So.... Monta, Iggy and SJax are left in Dwight's wish list right?

don't forget Josh Smith

And I don't know if Gay, Mayo, Millsap, or Jefferson are on his list... but I'm sure if we somehow acquired any of them (#miracle), Dwight would be ecstatic imo
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part V) 

Post#1420 » by Bensational » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:35 pm

LAC
in: Paul
out: Gordon + Aminu + Bledsoe +Kaman + Min pick

NOH:
in: Gordon + Aminu + Bledsoe + Anderson + Hedo + JJ + Min Pick
out: Paul + Ariza

PHI
in: Kaman
out: Iggy

ORL
in: Iggy + Ariza
out: Anderson + Hedo + JJ

Dwight
BBD/Clark
Iggy/Ariza/Harper
JRich/Liggins
Nelson/Du

welcome back defense. we still lack a second scorer, but Iggy is much stronger than Hedo in that respect.

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