Sleepers List

TekOPP · Post #1 » by **TekOPP** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:14 am

Wanted to start a list of players to look at from 6th to 12th round as possible break outs this season.

List your potential sleepers

Busch Legion · Post #2 » by **Busch Legion** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:46 am

Gerald Henderson
Demar Derozan
Jeff Teague
Evan Turner

Kirsten19 · Post #3 » by **Kirsten19** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:54 am

DeRozan, Cousins, D.Collison, Matthews, Dudley, DeAndre Jordan, Toney Douglas(Billups left)

2nd last pick: Tyrus Thomas, Cassipi, Ricky Rubio

Last pick: Jeff Teague, Brandon Knight, Kendrik Perkins, Mozgov, Jerebko, Evan Turner, Glen Davis, Ben Gordon

Apathy · Post #4 » by **Apathy** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:15 pm

Depends on your definition of sleeper.

Boris Diaw: Classic example of jack-of-all-trades types being underrated; Top 75 value
Nicolas Batum: Trendy but for good reason; see above
Toney Douglas: Potential Top-50 value
Tony Allen: Ditto
Jason Terry: well-known but underrated, PG stats from SG position, particularly strong in TO leagues
Arron Afflalo: No idea why he's being slept on, his potential should be obvious
Marcus Thornton: self-explanatory?
Landry Fields: See Batum; Diaw
Ricky Rubio: great defender, passer, good spot-up shooter; up-tempo system; primary ball-handler I've gone full circle, from hating him to loving him
James Johnson: Will be a fantasy darling if his shooting improves; think he has Top-50 upside
Gordon Hayward: breakout potential on a team desperate for wing production
Budinger: PT, 3s, mid-teen points, on a fast-paced team
Maggette: a bit risky given his current ADP but high-teens points, elite FT% hard to find late
CJ Miles: contract year, still young, improved conditioning, PT for the taking
Gerald Henderson: really cheap for decent production, good bet for massive minutes
Jodie Meeks: 2+ 3pg if starting job sticks
Tyrus Thomas: will he ever stop fouling? bobcats desperate for frontcourt help
Bismack Biyombo: could be elite in blocks from the get-go if he can avoid foul trouble
Jared Dudley: run-of-the-mill athleticism caps upside but rugged defender, glue guy
Anderson Varejao: double-double potential, finally stopped fouling so much and is team's best defender so should see 30+ mpg
DeAndre Jordan: too trendy for my liking w/ Kaman still around but Chris Anderson-type
Jeff Teague:may not be cut out to start in the NBA but he gets a ton of steals and should see big minutes for at least the first month; could run with it if he shows improvement, still just 22

Kirsten19 · Post #5 » by **Kirsten19** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:24 am

Kirsten19 wrote:DeRozan, Cousins, D.Collison, Matthews, Dudley, DeAndre Jordan, Toney Douglas(Billups left)

2nd last pick: Tyrus Thomas, Cassipi, Ricky Rubio

Last pick: Jeff Teague, Brandon Knight, Kendrik Perkins, Mozgov, Jerebko, Evan Turner, Glen Davis, Ben Gordon

DeRozan, Cousins, D.Collison, Matthews, Dudley, DeAndre Jordan, Toney Douglas(Billups left)

2nd last pick: Tyrus Thomas, Cassipi, Ricky Rubio, Fredette

Last pick: Jeff Teague, Brandon Knight, Kendrik Perkins, Mozgov, Jerebko, Evan Turner, Glen Davis, Ben Gordon

Kirsten19 · Post #6 » by **Kirsten19** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:56 am

Can't take Rubio

1) His first season, he needa adapt

2) share minutes with Luke Ridnour and JJ Barea

3) He cannot SHOOT

Blasphemy · Post #7 » by **Blasphemy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:15 pm

Jarret Jack!!!

NO's starting PG, he should put up Kyle Lowry numbers

Apathy · Post #8 » by **Apathy** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:06 pm

Kirsten19 wrote:3) He cannot SHOOT

he's a good spot-up shooter:

Rubio can knock down an open shot, hitting 40.5% of unguarded catch and shoot jumpers, but in just about any other situation, he struggles with his shot. When he is guarded, Rubio shoots just 18.5% and when he is shooting off of the dribble, he is shooting just 23.5%.

http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/06/20/overs ... cky-rubio/

Busch Legion · Post #9 » by **Busch Legion** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:58 am

Rubio's been hitting his jumper in practice and scrimmage anyway.... get to see him in some pre season tomorrow, can't wait to see how he'll look.

Also I like Jack as well. I dropped Teague for him.

Guy986 · Post #10 » by **Guy986** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:48 pm

Still dont like Rubio. If he is playing for Don Nelson i like him but he's playing for Rick Adelman.

He wont have the ball in his hand and he can't shoot NBA 3. What is there to pick?

Guy986 · Post #11 » by **Guy986** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:51 pm

Jordan Hill is emerging as a viable fantasy player. Kevin Mchale loves him and singled him out as most impressive at camp. He's in a contract year and unless the Rockets sign Dalembert in the following days, he can pencil him at starting C for about 25-30mpg.

PER 36 minutes he put up some very good numbers. He can block some shot, rebound, score in the double digit on high FG%.

Busch Legion · Post #12 » by **Busch Legion** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:04 am

Do you guys think with the Crawford signing that Batum kinda becomes irrelevant now? I'm pondering if I should drop him for someone like Verajao.

Kirsten19 · Post #13 » by **Kirsten19** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:42 am

Agree Jordan Hill

then Fredette n Brandon Knight n Haywood

Apathy · Post #14 » by **Apathy** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:16 am

guarantee jordan hill will never see 30mpg in any universe. he will foul out before that happens

Guy986 · Post #15 » by **Guy986** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:16 pm

I have one golden rule when it comes to fantasy basketball.

If the coach likes you, i like you.

Doesn't matter how much talent you have. Doesn't matter how fantasy friendly said player's game is. If the coach doesn't put a player in a position to succeed or doesn't give em playing time (T-will, Anthony Randolph) there won't be fantasy impact.

Mchale LOVES Jordan Hill. Thats enough for me. Whatever he does with that opportunity is up to him.

Apathy · Post #16 » by **Apathy** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:36 pm

that's all fine and dandy,

but young big men are notorious for being foul-happy. an undersized big man in a fast-paced tempo who already fouled a lot... how is he going to stay on the court? coaches are notoriously cautious with foul trouble.

chances are dalembert's gonna sign there anyway. he's the real sleeper.

Guy986 · Post #17 » by **Guy986** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:47 pm

Apathy wrote:that's all fine and dandy,

but young big men are notorious for being foul-happy. an undersized big man in a fast-paced tempo who already fouled a lot... how is he going to stay on the court? coaches are notoriously cautious with foul trouble.

chances are dalembert's gonna sign there anyway. he's the real sleeper.

Jordan Hill has 6 fouls. He can play 25-30 minutes. He averaged 5fouls per 36 minutes. Thats not great but he's not exactly Amir Johnson(who averaged over 6 fouls per 36 minutes). Why do you care if he fouls out in the 27th minutes. Mchale will play him as many minutes as he can handle. For a guy thats not expected to be drafted in a standard Fantasy draft(that was before the preseason game where he had 17/13), Jordan Hill represents tremendous value. His game is fantasy friendly.

But obviously if they sign Dalembert, its all moot. Hoever I dont expect the Rockets to sign him though.

Apathy · Post #18 » by **Apathy** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:08 am

because if he's not getting 30mpg he's not going to be productive enough to quality as a sleeper in all but the deepest of leagues

sleeper is really a proxy for upside. hill has none of it

Kirsten19 · Post #19 » by **Kirsten19** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:18 am

Marcus Camby, Jerebko, Big Baby or Jordan Hill??

I wonder

My H2H Team:

PG) Westbrook, TyLawson
SG) Felton, Fredette
SF) Nick Young, Morrow
PF) Griffin, Bosh, Cousins
C) Bogut, Hibbert, Camby(or Hill?? or Ryan Anderson? or Big Baby??)

Guy986 · Post #20 » by **Guy986** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:42 am

Apathy wrote:because if he's not getting 30mpg he's not going to be productive enough to quality as a sleeper in all but the deepest of leagues

sleeper is really a proxy for upside. hill has none of it

And yet you think Rubio will get 30mpg coming off the bench in a 3PG rotation in Minnesota playing under a coach notorious for being strict with rookies?