Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (PtVII Mods Close)

WeAreVenom · Post #1401 » by **WeAreVenom** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm

woosah wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:

they are going to give him a large 1 year deal which is exactly what otis should of given jrich. something like 1 year 10 mil.

Hopefully he will get a multi year deal offer from someone else.

He will, but will he take it?

ADRajX · Post #1402 » by **ADRajX** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:40 pm

magicman123 wrote:
DJRajX wrote:And we're intent on clearing cap space for summer '12... bring it on New Jersey

i think we are adding cap space

If finding another star (Ellis, Iggy, etc) fails... then I would assume we would make moves to get rid of Duhon, Q, or Hedo's contracts for an expiring.

ADRajX · Post #1403 » by **ADRajX** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Tayswagzzz wrote:
DJRajX wrote:
Tayswagzzz wrote:What would you rather do, clear cap room for 2012 to get Deron (Seems like it would be either us or Dallas, its a bit of a gamble) or acquire another player before the season starts?

Personally I think I'd rather do everything we can to get someone like Ellis or Iggy and if we can't acquire them, just try and get Deron. I'm also curious whether or not he would want a trade here? Idk. Crazier things have happened...

I don't think it's a matter of choosing one course of action over another

If we get someone like Ellis and Iggy... Great!... if not... just keep working towards clearing cap for summer '12

Do you think we haven't done a trade like that yet because we're waiting on CP3 to fall through or we just don't have the assets to get it done?

Honestly, the latter unfortunately... BUT... if we could find a third team willing to deal with us, anything is possible

Tarnag · Post #1404 » by **Tarnag** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 pm

Tayswagzzz wrote:What would you rather do, clear cap room for 2012 to get Deron (Seems like it would be either us or Dallas, its a bit of a gamble) or acquire another player before the season starts? (Boosting Dwight's confidence, possibly ensuring he resigns with us)

Personally I think I'd rather do everything we can to get someone like Ellis or Iggy and if we can't acquire them, just try and get Deron. I'm also curious whether or not he would want a trade here? Idk. Crazier things have happened...

All I want for Christmas is Ellis or Iggy. Please Santa Otis?

Tayswagzzz · Post #1405 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:44 pm

I agree, a third team would help a lot. GSW really that happy with their roster?

ADRajX · Post #1406 » by **ADRajX** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

MagicInsider Brian Schmitz
Magic trying to smoke out L.A. with Nets trade tease. Lakers didn't bite. Magic want PGasol and ABynum for DHoward. Now what? Wait.

he needs to shut up

jadewbj · Post #1407 » by **jadewbj** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
jadewbj wrote:Do we have to get CP3 or Derron? If dwight is being truthful we could get an Ellis or Iggy type player and make him happy. Who is available in FA next year that could fit that bill?

it's not only about making Dwight happy but also setting us up in the position to win a title. Adding Ellis or Iggy does make Dwight happy, but we're fighting Miami/Chicago/NY for tops of East. Give us Paul or Williams and IMO, Orl is #1 in the east (depending roster fillers).

I think it is all about making dwight happy. We have the best chance at a title with him on our team.

rcklsscognition · Post #1408 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

Give up on Ellis.

magicman123 · Post #1409 » by **magicman123** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:45 pm

i dont really want iggy, hes not that scorer or play maker we need, great defender though

Tarnag · Post #1410 » by **Tarnag** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:46 pm

Tayswagzzz wrote:I agree, a third team would help a lot. GSW really that happy with their roster?

What would that third team be?

Orlando Prodigy · Post #1411 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:48 pm

I think we just need to give up on trades, especially for Monta. They're clearly not going to happen or we would have heard SOME type of rumor. There has been zero indication that the Magic are even interested in Monta or Iggy. I am just keeping it as my avatar because it's something I've always wanted.

rcklsscognition · Post #1412 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:49 pm

It does seem though that reporters and people involved or around the Magic think he's gone. Even local guys.

thelead · Post #1413 » by **thelead** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:50 pm

magicman123 wrote:i dont really want iggy, hes not that scorer or play maker we need, great defender though

I agree. I would love him here, but our offense is a much bigger problem right now. We have no one that you could give the ball to at let him go at it. That's why I would love to throw a mle for 2 years for Crawford. He could be our backup pg/sg and would make jj tradeable.

Nemesis21 · Post #1414 » by **Nemesis21** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:50 pm

Tarnag wrote:
Tayswagzzz wrote:What would you rather do, clear cap room for 2012 to get Deron (Seems like it would be either us or Dallas, its a bit of a gamble) or acquire another player before the season starts? (Boosting Dwight's confidence, possibly ensuring he resigns with us)

Personally I think I'd rather do everything we can to get someone like Ellis or Iggy and if we can't acquire them, just try and get Deron. I'm also curious whether or not he would want a trade here? Idk. Crazier things have happened...

All I want for Christmas is Capt Jack and a backup C. Please Santa Otis?

Fixed. Ellis is unlikely now.

struckrk · Post #1415 » by **struckrk** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:51 pm

I don't really see anyway of being able to offer a max deal in the Summer,someone please look closer but just a quick check of Hoopshype salaries with Davis,Jrich,and Wafer included shows us at 68mil. for next year with the cap being at 60mil.,so we are already over the cap by 8mil.,we do have a couple of options,decline JJ and no QO for Anderson would put us about 1.5mil UNDER the cap,thats a long way from a max deal plus letting go of two good role players.There is NO WAY Jameer is opting out of almost 8mil. so getting a max deal seems pretty far fetched,however I do think Gerald Wallace would be a great fit for what we need,he may be had for a piece and pick.I see no way we can get a superstar,but if we could pull off a couple of Wallace type players,we might be in pretty good shape.

Tayswagzzz · Post #1416 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:52 pm

Yeah and I think we stopped going after Crawford

OrlDave · Post #1417 » by **OrlDave** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:52 pm

I skimmed the last few pages, so forgive me if I missed this posted earlier but here is Mark Cuban talking about lots of things inc Howard.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/sports/ ... in-Orlando

(The video is in a link middle of page.. the direct link wasn't posting right for me.)

MitchellUK · Post #1418 » by **MitchellUK** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:53 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:It does seem though that reporters and people involved or around the Magic think he's gone. Even local guys.

I think a big part of that his repeated use of the phrase "right now" when talking to them about his future. While he may have left the door slightly ajar to remain in Orlando, it's quite clear that he is still leaning towards leaving. It's going to take a lot to convince him to stay.

Tayswagzzz · Post #1419 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:55 pm

On another note though, Jackson would be good for the team, although, I think J Rich is gonna step his game up a lot this season, along with Hedo, might just be what we need.

It is clear though we do need another player on Dwight's list, according to him there are more than the ones that have just been made public.

woosah · Post #1420 » by **woosah** » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:56 pm

Meanwhile, nothing is reported on CP3 landing. That domino needs to fall so other things start happening.

..and part 8 here we come!!