Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part VIII)

The Magic Man · Post #1061 » by **The Magic Man** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:29 pm

DJRajX wrote:
JohnDenton555 John Denton
Latest from @DwightHoward from Thursday: "There’s no back n forth. It still stands and we know what is going on.’’

JohnDenton555 John Denton
@DwightHoward said nothing has changed as far as his trade request. He talked to O.Smith on Thurs, said conversation will remain private.

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Portland had the choice to let Roy take a medical retirement, or use amnesty on him. Roy is leaving the game with knee problems.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Blazers have decided to use the amnesty clause on Brandon Roy, league sources told Y! Sports.

Like I been saying he wants out.Basically he's waiting on Otis to find a good deal before the deadline.

Dwight,Turk for Bynum,Gasol
Dwight,Turk for Lopez,Humphries,5 1rd picks
Dwight,Turk for Noah,Deng,Gibson,1rd
Dwight for Blake Griffin :lol:

Darth Magic · Post #1062 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:29 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:Ok i need someone that is in favor for the LA trade to explain to me why we do it? and please don't say to remain competitive i'm not buying that at all....

It makes sense from a value perspective. If you think of what the nets could offer it's not much. they basically sold their soul to get Deron and only have Marshon Brooks, and Lopez and low first round picks to offer for Dwight. They could try to bring in a second or third team, but what would they offer them? Dallas is even worse and has NOTHING we would want in a trade. So that leaves the Lakers. If they offer both Pau and Bynum, plus picks as well as taking a couple of bad contracts that's the move we have to make. There are teams out there willing to give a small fortune to get Gasol, so we could always flip him for another all-star wing player, or point guard. It's our best bet to be honest. the only other option i can think of is OKC, but i don't think Dwight would want to go there. I think he feels threatened by Durant.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #1063 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:33 pm

JF5 wrote:I really don't want to do that Pau and Bynum trade..... It just seems like a trade for the inevitable rebuilding process.

I don't like the Nets deal either.... But the Nets have more leverage at this point....

I'd actually take Lopez, Humphries, and a mountain of 1st rounders over Gasol (30 something year old PF/C)/Bynum (bad knees, horrific defender).

Howard isn't winning anything in New Jersey with just Williams. Also it seems to me he just doesn't want to be in Orlando so ship him out, get some young players and 1st rounders to rebuild.

Darth Magic · Post #1064 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:34 pm

DavidBaumann33 David Baumann

Dwight Howard: "Right now, me and Otis (Smith) are going to continue to try and make this team better," but didn't say trade demand was off.

So they're talking again. good to know Dwight. :roll:

jadewbj · Post #1065 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:35 pm

David Baumann @DavidBaumann33
Dwight Howard: "Right now, me and Otis (Smith) are going to continue to try and make this team better," but didn't say trade demand was off.

It's mind games dammit, make it stop!!!

The-Dawson · Post #1066 » by **The-Dawson** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:36 pm

When will Dwight just realize stayin with Orlando and havin D Will come here is whats best for him

Post #1067 » by **eyriq** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:36 pm

If you want to see how much Turk's game has changed since his '08 campaign here are some interesting stats. Right now looking at our roster our big minute guys are going to be Dwight, Turk, and JRich, with Nelson probably hovering around his 30 mpg mark per norm (btw, getting playoff Nelson all regular season would be tremendous, which is around 33-34 mpg). Looking at the below stats you can clearly see that Hedo is no longer a scorer and much more a facilitator. A damn good one too.

'08 Turk averaged 36.9 mpg
'11 Turk averaged 34.1 mpg

'08 Turk shot 14.9 FGA per game
'11 Turk shot 9.4 FGA per game

'08 Turk shot 45.6% FG
'11 Turk shot 44.8% FG

'08 Turk shot 4.8 FTA per game
'11 Turk shot 2.1 FTA per game

'08 Turk made 5 AST per game
'11 Turk made 5.1 AST per game

'08 Turk made 3 TO per game
'11 Turk made 1.8 AST per game

'08 Turk shot 4.7 FGA at the rim
'11 Turk shot 1.5 FGA at the rim

magicman123 · Post #1068 » by **magicman123** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:38 pm

the only way the nets trade make sense is if we get a 3rd team involved...they would need to ship morrow out as well to someone else

MagicFan149 · Post #1069 » by **MagicFan149** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:38 pm

now with the earl signing its begining to look like it goin to harder and harder to clear space for next offeason to go after dwill... if that is the route we are choosing we need to find takers for qrich,duhon and clark before the end of the season...

SolidSnake008 · Post #1070 » by **SolidSnake008** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:39 pm

Ok does anyone have any Practice updates? Not on the interviews and the trade circus but updates on what happened on the court today...who played well....who didn't...that kind of thing

magicman123 · Post #1071 » by **magicman123** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:40 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:Ok does anyone have any Practice updates? Not on the interviews and the trade circus but updates on what happened on the court today...who played well....who didn't...that kind of thing

wafer was the best player, yea we screwed

Darth Magic · Post #1072 » by **Darth Magic** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:41 pm

JoshuaBRobbins Josh Robbins
Shaq on the Magic's situation w/Dwight Howard: "I'm anxious to see if they make the same mistake twice."

What an ass :roll:

Viper1500 · Post #1073 » by **Viper1500** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:41 pm

The-Dawson · Post #1074 » by **The-Dawson** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:42 pm

How much is Earl clark gettin?

jadewbj · Post #1075 » by **jadewbj** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:46 pm

Josh Robbins @JoshuaBRobbins
Dwight Howard says his request to be traded by the #Orlando #Magic "still stands": ht.ly/80OAy.

this is the life of a magic fan

magicman123 · Post #1076 » by **magicman123** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:46 pm

The-Dawson wrote:How much is Earl clark gettin?

he wanted to play with Orlando so bad he paid us

rcklsscognition · Post #1077 » by **rcklsscognition** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:49 pm

MitchellUK wrote:
MoMM wrote:
MagicFan149 wrote:wow so if roy were to of medically retired would he still of got his full contract? cause if not thats a really nice parting gift from blazers decideing to amnesty him so he still gets paid

Medical insurance probably would cover his contract.

IIRC, don't think his contract was insured because the knee problems were pre-existing and so severe.

80% was covered by insurance.

MitchellUK · Post #1078 » by **MitchellUK** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:49 pm

magicman123 wrote:
The-Dawson wrote:How much is Earl clark gettin?

he wanted to play with Orlando so bad he paid us

Although Alex Martins is so sure that Dwight is staying that he to Earl that in the event D12 does leave, Earl can have the final year of Dwight's contract.

mhectorgato · Post #1079 » by **mhectorgato** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:51 pm

eyriq wrote:If you want to see how much Turk's game has changed since his '08 campaign here are some interesting stats. Right now looking at our roster our big minute guys are going to be Dwight, Turk, and JRich, with Nelson probably hovering around his 30 mpg mark per norm (btw, getting playoff Nelson all regular season would be tremendous, which is around 33-34 mpg). Looking at the below stats you can clearly see that Hedo is no longer a scorer and much more a facilitator. A damn good one too.

'08 Turk averaged 36.9 mpg
'11 Turk averaged 34.1 mpg

'08 Turk shot 14.9 FGA per game
'11 Turk shot 9.4 FGA per game

'08 Turk shot 45.6% FG
'11 Turk shot 44.8% FG

'08 Turk shot 4.8 FTA per game
'11 Turk shot 2.1 FTA per game

'08 Turk made 5 AST per game
'11 Turk made 5.1 AST per game

'08 Turk made 3 TO per game
'11 Turk made 1.8 AST per game

'08 Turk shot 4.7 FGA at the rim
'11 Turk shot 1.5 FGA at the rim

Turk-o-flail FTL ??

Nyce_1 · Post #1080 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:53 pm

if we make conference finals and lose in 6 or 7, does Dwight stay? Maybe not extend but he opts into his final year.