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The Heat finally have a real PG (Norris Cole)

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The Heat finally have a real PG (Norris Cole) 

Post#1 » by TRG » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:41 am

This article is for anyone who missed the scrimmage. A lot of people during the lockout were stating that our newly acquired rookie would be the one PG we have been searching for (and desperately needed) for years. Cole had a lot of quiet hype built around him, and tbh I was pretty skeptical about him, because as Heat fans we've always had a bad tendency to over-hype new players joining the Heat organization (see: Pittman, Mike Miller, Bibby, etc). After watching the scrimmage and seeing him in action for the first time, all of my initial doubts were diminished. This kid really is everything we've been asking for; a true floor general. The kid has a high BBIQ, he's extremely quick, a good passer, can create his own shot, great defender, aggressive, etc. He pretty much already does everything we've been been trying to get out of Chalmers for years.

Not saying the guy is going to be the next CP3 but anyone who knows basketball can easily tell this kid really has some potential... Don't take my word for it though, read the article yourself.

Can't wait to see how this kid develops.

By ETHAN J. SKOLNICK
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Updated: 11:00 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 15, 2011
Posted: 10:42 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 15, 2011

MIAMI — Erik Spoelstra opened the open scrimmage with a wide smile, and a hearty welcome back to the season-ticket holders who filled much of the lower bowl.

"It's been too long," Spoelstra said Thursday. "Feels great."

Then, for the next two hours, Heat fans cheered some old friends.

And a new spark.

Yes, LeBron James unveiled his improved post game, diving down to the block on the second possession, before uncoiling into a turnaround jumper. Yes, Dwyane Wade showed he still has spring in his legs, taking a James pass, switching hands and slamming over Dexter Pittman. Yes, Chris Bosh showed off his three-point stroke as a trailer on the break, something Spoelstra asked him to emphasize in the off-season.

But, no, this night didn't belong to any of them.

It belonged to the kid who calls himself "No No."

That is rookie Norris Cole.

That, my friends, is a point guard.

"You can't teach what he has," Wade said. "He's very aggressive. He's smart, he picks up things very easy. He's going to be great coming off the bench behind Rio (Mario Chalmers)."

For now, anyway.

Spoelstra stood by Chalmers as a starter after Cole's public Heat debut, one in which the Cleveland State graduate scored 21 points on 7-of-17 shooting, while Chalmers scored nine points on 2-of-8 inaccuracy. Anything else would be a gross overreaction.

Still, to steal and reapply Spoelstra's phrase, "it's been too long" since the Heat had someone who looked like a spark plug, floor-leader point guard.

Someone who did the things that Cole did Thursday night, in his first game on the AmericanAirlines Arena court since the 2009 NCAA regionals, when his Cleveland State Vikings beat Wake Forest before falling to Arizona.

Someone so fast. Someone who steps assertively into a pull-up jumper. Someone who attacks the rim with his head raised and with both hands. Someone who can throw sublime bounce passes into the tightest spaces, as shown on successive possessions, one in transition for a layup by rookie Terrel Harris, the other in halfcourt, on a wraparound to Bosh to set up a foul.

Someone who scored from inside (layups) and out (a couple of threes).

"Coach just wanted me to go out and play and not think too much," Cole said. "I'm pretty comfortable right now. I haven't been overwhelmed so far."

Again, it's unwise to get overwhelmed by a scrimmage, one in which the teams changed after every quarter, one that Shane Battier (quad), Eddy Curry (hip), Mike Miller (hernia) and Eddie House (knee) all missed, and one that had a running clock in the fourth quarter simply to avoid injury.

Still, the Heat's point guard drought has been long enough that it's tempting to savor something like Cole's 12-foot running teardrop.

Tim Hardaway arrived in 1996, a bit gimpy but still game, and gave the Heat five good seasons. Since his 2001 exit, the Heat hasn't had a prototype quarterback. The limited Travis Best. The troubled Smush Parker. A past-prime Gary Payton. A fossilized Mike Bibby.

Pat Riley got a healthy, solid, restrained season out of Jason Williams, got one good stint (out of two) from Rafer Alston, and got some community buzz with Carlos Arroyo.

Riley also got some mileage out of two conversions, in which he moved collegiate complementary guards to the point.

The first was Wade, in 2003.

"To me, it was tougher, because I had never played the position before," Wade said. "You can tell with Norris, he's played point guard all his life. He gets the ball, he's looking down the court."

Chalmers had a challenging transition, too. He often played off the ball at Kansas, but the Heat had no choice but to start him at point guard as a 2008 rookie. He has not progressed in a straight line since, partly because the spot isn't natural. His most memorable offensive contributions have come as a spot-up shooter, after a more dynamic teammate (such as Wade) draws the defense.

Chalmers remains the guy for now, as Spoelstra tempers expectations for the rookie.

"A lot of things are coming at him right now," Spoelstra said.

But Cole is coming, too. Fast.
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Post#2 » by NYchris » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:43 am

Grats watched the red and black game and cole looks really solid
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Post#3 » by ninjabelly » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:44 am

i want to see the game now! i heard he was straight up ballin
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Post#4 » by orangeparka » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:50 am

Let's not get carried away, but I do like what I saw from him.

He's not a physical specimen, but has good quickness and a nice jumper. He should be pretty good.
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Post#5 » by Cloud765 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:50 am

Is there a replay anywhere?
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Post#6 » by DefenseWins » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:13 am

THere is a guy on youtube that will post all the parts, he just went to sleep though so you'll have to wait til tomorrow to see it all, but here are the parts he uploaded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08Z59mXvGQ - pregame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmmAbEjiVlA - pregame
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RcBuSC3AU - game starts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWCQ9pU0uao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wACCCW_xetQ

I assume there will be more tomorrow

but yes Cole is a REAL PG. Can't wait til the Orlando game. He is going to be HUGE off the bench. Oh and UD is back, he was acting like it was a real game, go so hard at it. I didn't see this UD last year (obviously because of his injury) and I am glad to see him back.

He also passed the ball a lot of Joel, trying to help him lol. Cole would have gotten double digit assists if more people finished, but this game was more physical than I thought haha.
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Post#7 » by ninjabelly » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:36 am

thank you!
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Post#8 » by Moggs24 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:42 am

Thanks for posting, I've been trying to find those videos.

Definitely a lot of positive signs from what I saw from the scrimmage. But it's still just a scrimmage and I'm gonna hold off judgement for at least a month or so on how different this team is gonna be this year. But I really liked how Wade and Lebron looked to post up and both seem comfortable doing so. And Norris Cole's level of confidence and knowledge as a point guard was very promising. I know it is only one scrimmage but I don't see chalmers being the starter or at least seeing the majority of the minutes for long.
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Post#9 » by FlashTheKilla » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:21 am

I know we're all excited, but let's not anoint him yet. He looks very promising, but one scrimmage does not make him a "Real PG."
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Post#10 » by DefenseWins » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:30 am

Yeah thinking about it many of us probably got carried away, but it was exciting to watch.

We can only see how he does against the Magic now lol.

I mean no one really tried to defend him hard and whatnot, no real team defense etc.

But his offense game seems naturally good though, his dishes were amazing.

Time will tell... time will tell...
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Post#11 » by TRG » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:53 am

FlashTheKilla wrote:I know we're all excited, but let's not anoint him yet. He looks very promising, but one scrimmage does not make him a "Real PG."


It's not the scrimmage, it's his skill set. The scrimmage just confirmed that.

Like many people said before I think he'll be awesome for us in the second unit coming off the bench. He can give us that offensive "spark" the Heat needed when only one of the Big 3 are on the floor.
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Post#12 » by twix2500 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:11 am

FlashTheKilla wrote:I know we're all excited, but let's not anoint him yet. He looks very promising, but one scrimmage does not make him a "Real PG."


Yes it showed that he is a "Real PG". It doesnt show how good he is going to be, but it does show the type of player he is. Its not a position that he has to learn, he knows his roles and responsibilities as a point. At least thats not a question, now its can he handle the speed and size of the NBA. What is also impressive, its that he showed he has the ability to do just about everything. Defend, rebound, handle, taking to the hoop, dictate an offense, floor general, cause havoc, and shoot (pull up and spot up). The ability is there, thats for one thing.
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Post#14 » by HEATVols865 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:35 pm

So Cole just gave Riley one mission for next off-season:
Find a Center that will sign for the MLE or mini-MLE since we're set at PG.
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Post#15 » by arsenic » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:23 pm

He looked pretty good from what I saw but again...it was a scrimmage. I'm very interested to see how he handles against opposing teams.
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Post#16 » by GreenHat » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:41 pm

So Lebron can post up, Bosh can hit threes and we have a pg.

I have a feeling this article is a little overly optimistic since its the first basketball in a while.
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Post#17 » by EscapoTHB » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:47 pm

haha yeah you think?
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Post#18 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:48 pm

The Bosh 3-point shooting and LeBron post game stuff I'm still pretty skeptical on. Didn't see enough in 1 scrimmage to really say its going to become a staple of their games.

But I do think Cole looked very impressive. It wasn't just the numbers, it was the way he controlled the game. He looked poised, is the best I could put it.

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Post#19 » by Howard2LA » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:52 pm

Looks promising for you guys, but don't get why all you act like Chalmers is awful. He was a spark in the Finals.
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Post#20 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:56 pm

Howard2LA wrote:Looks promising for you guys, but don't get why all you act like Chalmers is awful. He was a spark in the Finals.

I think everyone knows Mario is better than awful. He has 2 main issues.

First, he's a feast or famine type of player. What that means is he's either really good or really bad, there's not a whole lot of consistency with him, and consistency is what you want out of your role players (last night was one of his bad nights, save for a couple of nice plays at the end).

Two, he's not really a point guard, never has been. Which is OK on our team, but you'd still prefer a more natural point if you could have him.

Its way too early to say Norris will be more consistent than Mario, but I can safely say he looked more like a point guard in last night's scrimmage than Mario has in the last 3 years combined.

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