Bean Burrito / Nick Young Appreciation Thread.

[verbal8]

All I'm saying is that a 2-year $10M deal seems to me to be more preferable to BOTH parties than the qualifying offer. Young gets the same amount of money he would get in his best-case scenario, he hits free agency at age 27 when he's still young enough to get a long term deal, and the Wizards get him locked up for 2-years with next year at a cheaper salary, and with a contract that is tradeable.

I think it is the market rate. Crawford(and I think Hamilton) signed for 2 yrs/$10 million. Crawford and Hamilton have produced a little more, but are likely to decline.

[Benjammin]

Hopefully Nick and Ernie are listening to the market and at the very least get a 2 year 10 million (or so) deal done, if not a little longer.

[REDardWIZskin]

The more i watch training camp the more I become comfortable with the idea of letting Nick walk or just keeping the one yr qualifying offer. I'd be fine going through this season without him and heading into the draft with Lamb/ Beal/ Ross high on our draft board.

Training camp videos don't show the missed shots.

In the NBA, shooting matters. Teams without knock-down shooters simply don't succeed. We don't have any deadeye shooters on the roster except Rashard Lewis. Losing Young would definitely hurt this team, don't kid yourself.

I'm not kidding myself, I was never against resigning young. Clearly you missed the "just keeping the one yr qualifying offer" part. I was simply stating that i'd rather let him go than to overpay especially in a shortened season, but that was also before 3-4 players at his position signed contracts closer to what we'd all prefer to see... Hopefully the market has been set accordingly

[tontoz]

The more i watch training camp the more I become comfortable with the idea of letting Nick walk or just keeping the one yr qualifying offer. I'd be fine going through this season without him and heading into the draft with Lamb/ Beal/ Ross high on our draft board.

Training camp videos don't show the missed shots.

In the NBA, shooting matters. Teams without knock-down shooters simply don't succeed. We don't have any deadeye shooters on the roster except Rashard Lewis. Losing Young would definitely hurt this team, don't kid yourself.

I don't even count Lewis. His no-jump catapult style windup takes forever and he's easy to contest.

Not really. He is tall with a high release. Plus since he doesn't jump it is actually tougher to time a block since he can easily pull it back down.

He led the league in 3s made one year.

[Illuminaire]

Last year he wasn't nearly as good as he had been, with significant drop off both in volume and efficiency.

It's possible that the Rashard I saw in Washington was not the "real deal", but rather the result of injuries and roster changes. It's also possible that he's getting older, and he'll keep declining. Decent points though Tontoz, and I guess we'll see over the next season or two.

[tontoz]

Shard was actually playing well for the Wiz until he got hurt. He averaged 14.6/7.0 shooting 49% in january. I was surprised how well he was playing. He came in here with a positive attitude and played hard. He could have easily came in here sulking.

His game fell off a cliff after he got hurt.

This situation with Nick definitely needs to get resolved. It is getting late.

[hands11]

My guess is that EG and Young's agent have reached an impass. Young thinks he's worth $7-8M a year and management thinks he's worth less. Young may be willing to take the QO and gamble that he'll have more success in free agency next year.

Let's assume Young thinks he can get $7M a year if he waits. By taking the QO, he'll only get $3.7M this year. That means, in a best-case scenario, he'll make $10.7M over the next two years. Why not compromise and sign him right now to a 2-year deal? Give Young $5M a year for 2 years. Young takes just slightly less money than his best case scenario (to compensate for the injury risk) while the Wizards get to keep a solid SG for another 2 years while they wait to see how the team's roster rounds out. It'll be easier to make a long term decision on Young by next year. By then we'll know our 2012 draft position; the Dwight Howard situation will be resolved; and we'll have a good handle on the long term viability of Jordan Crawford.

Ideally, instead of 2-years at $5M per, we give Young $7M this year and $3M next year. (That's about all we have under the cap this year.) I'd like to keep our cap figure next year as low as possible.

Also, with Young signed for 2-years, he'll be a marketable asset in a trade. I don't think you can trade players who have taken the QO. And nobody will trade much for an impending free agent anyway.

Right. That is what I, you and others are saying.

[Hoopalotta]

Any reports of a stop-gap two-guard on a one-year for less Bucks? Give it a few days and I bet we'll have Redd that sort of thing.

[Ruzious]

Any reports of a stop-gap two-guard on a one-year for less Bucks? Give it a few days and I bet we'll have Redd that sort of thing.

I saw what you did there - pun...ishing us. Hopefully, signing Mo Evans doesn't have anything to do with Nick's situation.

[Rafael122]

Whoever his agent is is doing a piss poor job right now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

Asking price is $9 million per year. LMAO!!!

[Benjammin]

Whoever his agent is is doing a piss poor job right now.

That is assuming that N1 isn't having delusions of grandeur and not listening to his agent. I agree if this is the agent's strategy, it hasn't worked so far. Afflalo and Stuckey haven't signed anywhere yet either.

[nate33]

Whoever his agent is is doing a piss poor job right now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

Asking price is $9 million per year. LMAO!!!

Yup. That's ridiculous. It looks like management has the right perspective though. There's no way they give him anywhere near that much money.

[Benjammin]

Maybe some of that cinnamon that he and Pierre tried to swallow went straight to his brain.

[Rafael122]

Maybe over 3 years Nate, or 2. But not annually.

[hands11]

Whoever his agent is is doing a piss poor job right now.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... _blog.html

Asking price is $9 million per year. LMAO!!!

Under more traditional circumstances, that wouldn't be crazy for a player with his skills. But given the strike shortened off-season/signing period, and Nicks immature brain, 9M isn't in the card right now. At best it would be more like 7M if another team was reaching to take him away.

But if he can put in another solid year, expand his game with assist and rebounds and mature, he could get 9 or 10M in a full normal off-season.

Let it go Nick. It isn't your time just yet. Your Me and McGee videos did nothing to impress GMs around the league. Time to grow up young man.

[Ruzious]

If that's what his agent has been holding out for, I withdraw any criticism of EG in his handling of the situation. I hope Young's agent and Rodney Stuckey's (How can he possibly justify turning down a 40 to 45 million dollar deal when RS can't even shoot?) agent fail miserably. Nick, fire your agent and get your ars in DC,

[MJG]

I wouldn't give him $9 million per year even on a one year deal. It's really feeling like the QO might be the end game here.

[closg00]

Klay Thompson at 6?

[fishercob]

$9M? BWAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHA. DOn't let the door hit you on the way out, dum dum.

[hands11]

So can they get Nick signed before like tomorrow so he is ready for the next preseason game ?

Time is ticking.