Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IX)

BadMofoPimp · Post #261 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:45 pm

To be honest, I think the Nets team is much worse even though they have Deron on that team. I seriously doubt they ever win a championship just because they have two great players.

In my opinion:

Wade >>> Deron
Lebron and Bosh >>> Dwight and Humphries or whatever scrub the Nets find

Rose >>> Deron
Noah/Boozer/Deng >>> Dwight and whatever scrubs Nets have to sign

Regardless, it is a team sport and I think the Magic team is better than what the Nets have. Unless Dwight is traded there, that team will have a helluva time surrounding him with better talent than Dwight has in Orlando. Humphries and Morrow are nothing but backups on most teams.

pokerfan12 · Post #262 » by **pokerfan12** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:52 pm

Viper1500 wrote:I've never understood the hype over JJ tbh, he's a nice guy but has never once impressed me. Hedo played no better than my Dad out there. It's understandable why Dwight wants out when 1/3 of our salary cap is with them two.

JJ = fan favorite/tibow. we ignore the negatives and want so badly for him to succeed. man some peeps even want him starting. he is a nice guy but the kid is a situational role player AT BEST. period.

SolidSnake008 · Post #263 » by **SolidSnake008** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:55 pm

people don't over-react over one practice.....All of them obviously wasn't going all out and they were practicing for an hour before the open practice so some of them could have been already somewhat winded...Let's wait until tomorrows game to judge

Phantom418 · Post #264 » by **Phantom418** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:26 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:people don't over-react over one practice

^This.

Nemesis21 · Post #265 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:28 pm

Phantom418 wrote:
SolidSnake008 wrote:people don't over-react over one practice

^This.

Orlando Prodigy · Post #266 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:32 pm

After today's practice, I'm even more for sending Hedo to the Bucks for Sjax

Post #267 » by **Def Swami** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:33 pm

Just got home from the open practice and scored 2 tix to the home opener 8-)

Man, I was real proud of my Magic brethren for showing up and out for Dwight and the team. 9,000 strong all supporting Dwight and the squad.

Couple of basketball tidbits:
-Liggins was a steal. I know he's only 6'6", but he should be starting at SF if Hedo is going to play like trash.
-Hedo is terrible. Can't bend his knees on defense.
-Von Wafer can flat out score. He'll be huge for us off the bench.
-Orton looks lost; he is definitely not ready for primetime. We need a real back up center.
-Ryan is still ryan.

I watched Liggins play in college the last couple of years (gave my Gators hell). He has a great all around game and really hustles harder than any other guy on the floor. I still don't like Hedo defending the likes of Melo, Deng, and James, and Liggins would bring far more energy and heart to the starting 5 imo.

asianguy · Post #268 » by **asianguy** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:41 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:Just got home from the open practice and scored 2 tix to the home opener

Man, I was real proud of my Magic brethren for showing up and out for Dwight and the team. 9,000 strong all supporting Dwight and the squad.

Couple of basketball tidbits:
-Liggins was a steal. I know he's only 6'6", but he should be starting at SF if Hedo is going to play like trash.
-Hedo is terrible. Can't bend his knees on defense.
-Von Wafer can flat out score. He'll be huge for us off the bench.
-Orton looks lost; he is definitely not ready for primetime. We need a real back up center.
-Ryan is still ryan.

I watched Liggins play in college the last couple of years (gave my Gators hell). He has a great all around game and really hustles harder than any other guy on the floor. I still don't like Hedo defending the likes of Melo, Deng, and James, and Liggins would bring far more energy and heart to the starting 5 imo.

before putting Liggins in the starting line up, lets see if he makes the team first, and how he does in a real nba game, however from the open practice today, liggins probably impressed me the most, von, hughes both look good also, and I agreed Orton looks lost and doesn't belong out there, I hope he just got tired from practice right before the open practice

Post #269 » by **Def Swami** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:44 pm

asianguy wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:Just got home from the open practice and scored 2 tix to the home opener

Man, I was real proud of my Magic brethren for showing up and out for Dwight and the team. 9,000 strong all supporting Dwight and the squad.

Couple of basketball tidbits:
-Liggins was a steal. I know he's only 6'6", but he should be starting at SF if Hedo is going to play like trash.
-Hedo is terrible. Can't bend his knees on defense.
-Von Wafer can flat out score. He'll be huge for us off the bench.
-Orton looks lost; he is definitely not ready for primetime. We need a real back up center.
-Ryan is still ryan.

I watched Liggins play in college the last couple of years (gave my Gators hell). He has a great all around game and really hustles harder than any other guy on the floor. I still don't like Hedo defending the likes of Melo, Deng, and James, and Liggins would bring far more energy and heart to the starting 5 imo.

before putting Liggins in the starting line up, lets see if he makes the team first, and how he does in a real nba game, however from the open practice today, liggins probably impressed me the most, von, hughes both look good also, and I agreed Orton looks lost and doesn't belong out there, I hope he just got tired from practice right before the open practice

My call for Liggins is as much a recall on Hedo. Hedo just looks lazy on O and D. And that's not a sentiment I have based on the practice, but rather most of last season.

SubyWill · Post #270 » by **SubyWill** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:06 pm

Orlando_Prodigy wrote:After today's practice, I'm even more for sending Hedo to the Bucks for Sjax

This.

TSKD000 · Post #271 » by **TSKD000** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:17 pm

Too bad I missed the practice! From you everyone's descriptions, it sure sounds like we definitely need to be packaging Hedo, JJ, Duhon for draft picks if we can't package them for better talent and give these younger guys the playing time. It seems like they are hungry and want to play hard! If Liggins defense turns out to be good AND he attacks the basket, he needs to be backup of JRich at SG. How was Von Wafer's passing/creating? He might turn out to be a good backup PG. Better than Duhon. We really should be dumping higher salary guys for draft picks and developing the younger guys. Even if he's not traded, this has to be JJ's last year.

HeartAndHustle · Post #272 » by **HeartAndHustle** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:21 pm

One question guys? Do we sign Baron Davis today or what? Otis needs to get off his ASS!! I think the whole back thing was exagerated so he could clear waivers. We cant accept Dwights supporting cast as it stands today!

Nemesis21 · Post #273 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:22 pm

SubyWill wrote:
Orlando_Prodigy wrote:After today's practice, I'm even more for sending Hedo to the Bucks for Sjax

This.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7xqac6b
Send them a 2nd rd pick too.

Nemesis21 · Post #274 » by **Nemesis21** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:22 pm

HeartAndHustle wrote:One question guys? Do we sign Baron Davis today or what? Otis needs to get off his ASS!! I think the whole back thing was exagerated so he could clear waivers. We cant accept Dwights supporting cast as it stands today!

Hell no! Have you not heard, he has a bulging disc in his back ? He is out for at least 2 months.

chunnyboy · Post #275 » by **chunnyboy** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:23 pm

idk how much this has been discussed, but is there a scenario in which we can see dwight simply OPT-IN through his contract?

it's only one extra year in a city that he says he loves, and the opportunity to leave would still be there- at the same time we'd have a bunch of contracts come off the books and potentially bring in BOTH josh smith and monta ellis in addition to dwight-

we could potentially start

Ellis
JRich
Smith
Davis
Dwight

in the 2013-2014 opening night

Darth Magic · Post #276 » by **Darth Magic** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:26 pm

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Troy Murphy has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Lakers, league source tells Y! Sports.

HeartAndHustle · Post #277 » by **HeartAndHustle** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:27 pm

Darth Magic wrote:WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Troy Murphy has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Lakers, league source tells Y! Sports.

Damn you Otis!!

The Effect · Post #278 » by **The Effect** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:27 pm

I keep hearing about liggins, but any word on harper?

trebone · Post #279 » by **trebone** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:34 pm

Hedo needs to go, unfortunately I think he is about untradeable at this point by himself, maybe if we throw a 1st in with him for SJax maybe but I have a hard time seeing us being able to move him.

I like what I saw from liggins, von and clark, but then again those guys are trying to prove something so you cant really tell until they play a few games.

TSKD000 · Post #280 » by **TSKD000** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:37 pm

Wow, just saw the Jeff Green news. Horrible for him. Hope he recovers. First, Boston missed out on David West and now this...their depth just took a serious hit!